Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[MJInnocent]

Add frickin Mike Tyson to this list. He told Michael Rappaport on his podcast he wouldn't want MJ around his kids.

I can't find that bit but I did see where Tyson says he never liked MJ after introducing himself to him and MJ not knowing who he was,this was at the height of his fame,when world champion.
He said MJ was like "Do I know you?where do I recognise your face from? Haha.

 

[Michael Skywalker]

I didn't reported it as a fact. I only saw the twitter post and ask if it is true that Wade said this in the Oprah interview.

Well, yes? I didn't mean to be rude or anything, sorry if I came off that way? I thought I just answered your question and added a warning regarding what that fantweet you quoted was saying and the kind of hype around such finds, that easily happens when everyone is looking for inconsistencies. :flowers: English isn't my language though, so maybe I messed up, sorry.

However, it should be said, on the same note as my general warning above, I kind of feel like people who hasn't actually watched the film, don't really get how strong the narrative is. Saying there´s an inconsistency is like saying small boys should be raped as long as the sexual predator is a superstar. That is a big part of why people are reacting so crazy when we just question stuff, they are drowned in the narrative. I was well prepared and still felt my inner voice die while watching it. (I don't question anyone's choice as to watch or not, just want to share the insight I gained by taking a couple of years off my life by watching it in it's entirety.)

So, when we go out with an inconsistency, we like reeeaaally, have to be sure about what we say and it can't be something small, it has to be strong enough to break through brain-wash, which is a very hard thing to do. Otherwise we just feed the narrative of the movie product.

 

[olved]

Regarding Jordan coming forward. Considering that he was given that stuff at dantist under which you can have all sort of fantasies/"memories", it might be that he geniually can't distinguish truth from false any more.
Also I was thinking that probably Safechuck has been abused indeed, but not by Michael. Who knows what he was thinking during those "moments", and now his memory is all messed up. Far strechted, i know.

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[G-B_24]

TMZ ha snow posted the ring shopping video lol

What a waste harvey levin is.

 

[pierpinto1]

Mexico

Beautiful!
Mike has fans that other celebrities can only dream of.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist. Enough said.

There! Enough said indeed!

I can't find that bit but I did see where Tyson says he never liked MJ after introducing himself to him and MJ not knowing who he was,this was at the height of his fame,when world champion.
He said MJ was like "Do I know you?where do I recognise your face from? Haha.

I try to imagine Tyson's face when MJ asked him that, hahahaha.

TMZ ha snow posted the ring shopping video lol

What a waste harvey levin is.

TMZ have and always will be vultures. Instead of covering the letter between Wade and his mom that we all sent to them and many other media sources they cover a Jewelry store shopping video. They are reaching to the fullest with that stuff. Unbelievable.

One thing though, is it actually James that accompanies him there? Because that would be "ammo" for these dumb ****s.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Beautiful!
Mike has fans that other celebrities can only dream of.

Like I said a few days ago.
The people whould never do this for any other celebretie.
In every other case these lieares whould not be questioned and investigated.
They would get the money they are looking for and the media could rewhrite the history from the greatest entertainer of all time.

But because Michael still is the most beloved human being in the world people care a lot about him, his legecy the truth and jusice for him!

 

[terrell]

I can't find that bit but I did see where Tyson says he never liked MJ after introducing himself to him and MJ not knowing who he was,this was at the height of his fame,when world champion.
He said MJ was like "Do I know you?where do I recognise your face from? Haha.

On Ricky Smiley, they played what he said and Tyson said This is all about money and he loves MJ but he would not let his kids around MJ. He seem to saying it from a matter of MJ is an adult and should not have been around kids like or in his room. he talked about himself and the charges he was dealt that was false.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

I see people on Twitter now mentioning that the truth has been said now about Johnny Depp. Is that true? I know he presented his evidence that he was hit by Amber too, but weren't there also pictures of her bruised face? I doubt the media instantly on his side now.

 

[Smooth72]

Looks like The Game has jumped to MJ defense. His profile pick is the MJ is innocent pic. 10 million followers can’t hurt. Thanks Game way to represent the KING!

 

[terrell]

If that's true... That just p***es me off so much. All that damage he and his family caused to Michael's life and legacy and yet here he is living the good life and dancing to Michael's music.

He's a spineless coward who deserves nothing more than to rot in hell together with his father. :angry:

I agree. I hope this will eat his inner soul and never have peace until he correct this lie IN PUBIC, not private. You did it public so it should be cleared in public.

 

[Anna]

I see people on Twitter now mentioning that the truth has been said now about Johnny Depp. Is that true? I know he presented his evidence that he was hit by Amber too, but weren't there also pictures of her bruised face? I doubt the media instantly on his side now.

He has cctv evidence, attending police and other neutral witnesses to support that she made it all up.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

He has cctv evidence, attending police and other neutral witnesses to support that she made it all up.

Oh wow, well go Johnny then! That's what we need too, actual evidence like that. And my guess is that security camera recordings should still be around from Neverland? Or have the cops seized all that during the raid then?

But this is the kind of stuff the media can't ignore anymore and they just have to report on it. It'll be a while before this happens for Michael though.

 

[terrell]

He has cctv evidence, attending police and other neutral witnesses to support that she made it all up.

Lord have mercy

 

[terrell]

https://www.facethetruthtv.com/

Send facts to show. I am at work but to let u all know this is on. Vivia loves MJ. She was the one whose hand we see pouring Iman the drink in "Remember the Time".

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

when you look at a tweet, there is a little hook at the right, just have a click and you either copy the link or embed the tweet

Hmmmm, probably only when using Twitter on a mobile browser. I do see a hook in the app but no embed option sadly. Only options are Send via DM, add tweet to bookmarks and share tweet via...


Hmmm.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Lord have mercy

What I wonder is, if Depp wins this and it sure sounds very very plausible..will all those awards she got from the women rights movements etc all be retracted? It sure sounds like Johnny has been busy ever since this shit started for him and these are the results. He's going for the kill, well if he turns out to be the victim...go for it my dude!

 

[KOPV]

I wish I were in NY, I'd be standing outside of those morning shows (where you can see people walking by) with FACTS!!

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

TMZ are now reporting using that exact same CCTV footage of MJ looking for a ring with Safechuck like it's a new thing - he cites it in his lawsuit! He also did NOT buy a ring while shopping.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Caramelicedtea/status/1105883903301177352?s=09

 

[Soundmind]

Harvey Levin spoke with the Safechucks during the trial in 2005 and reported on his old program Celebrity Justice that they defended MJ. He knows more than anyone else they are liars. That's just to let you know how far the media is willing to go in this campaign to smear MJ's reputation.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Harvey Levin spoke with the Safechucks during the trial in 2005 and reported on his old program Celebrity Justice that they defended MJ. He knows more than anyone else they are liars. That's just to let you know how far the media is willing to go in this campaign to smear MJ's reputation.

Oh yeah... did he RECORDED the interview with them???

 

[KOPV]

I know Harvey knows, 1. he does his homework 2. we have sent numerous emails to TMZ with FACTS and still have not been reported..

 

[jarza]

Timbaland likes that 'MJ Innocent' pic which The Game shared on his Instagram account. Good to see that he is defending MJ, too!

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

I know Harvey knows, 1. he does his homework 2. we have sent numerous emails to TMZ with FACTS and still have not been reported..

Maybe he should not send it to the US media cause they are all in this big conspiricy since 40 years.

He should go on a big MJ supported YouTube channel with the footage and make sure that the comment section will be closed under the video that no MJ enemys can throw their dirt on the important footage.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Harvey Levin spoke with the Safechucks during the trial in 2005 and reported on his old program Celebrity Justice that they defended MJ. He knows more than anyone else they are liars. That's just to let you know how far the media is willing to go in this campaign to smear MJ's reputation.

We can't prove it but if that one tweet is true about who funded LN, it makes sense that he's not covering any facts at all. But regardless of that, I've never seen TMZ as a decent source anyway.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

We can't prove it but if that one tweet is true about who funded LN, it makes sense that he's not covering any facts at all. But regardless of that, I've never seen TMZ as a decent source anyway.

For me they were anti MJ.

I wished we can stop it soon that everybody wants to take advantage of the situation to profit on it with making YouTube videos about it and uploading the mokementary.

I refuse to click on 90 percent of the videos when I can't clearly reconize from the title that it is an defending video.
I wanna give them any ratings.
, cause I want that they all stop talking about LN.
The debunking defending videos becamed overlooked in the sea of video about the topic.

 

[MJInnocent]

Transport for London(TfL) have said they are going to remove all the Innocent posters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/newsbeat-47551316?__twitter_impression=true

 

[AG5050]

Dan Reed's excuse apparently is that they had to make cuts to LN because these channels have ads.

Hahahah, oh my.

I hate to go against the grain but that is genuinely the reason and what I said straight away after we got a shortherened version in the UK. It is completely standard across the board when a show that was made for a channel without ad breaks is aired on a channel with ad breaks. They always edit it down.
I feel like we are barking up the wrong tree by using this point as evidence against the docs credibility.

 

[kai]

I hate to go against the grain but that is genuinely the reason and what I said straight away after we got a shortherened version in the UK. It is completely standard across the board when a show that was made for a channel without ad breaks is aired on a channel with ad breaks. They always edit it down.
I feel like we are barking up the wrong tree by using this point as evidence against the docs credibility.

So you're saying it's coincidence that they edited out exactly the parts which were proven-lies by fans and other people?
If so than it means that the DVD release of LN will have the 4 hours version on it... but i doubt it.

 

[Layth]

I was having a conversation with someone. It didn’t start about MJ specifically but I came to a realization. I think that the estate needs to move forward with a biographical film about Michael (not a documentary but an actual narrative driven movie). Why? Because the one thing we all need to keep in mind. None of crap they filled Finding Neverland with is new. I’m sure many here remember the initial panic felt when Wade made the allegations years ago. Yes, the media covered it but not to the extent Finding Neverland has been covered and on the news. The visual element of it being a documentary made it seem “real” to a lot of people + riding Me Too movement + 10 year mark is coming up (already dreading the inevitable hit pieces that will drop in late June).

Making a movie, hiring a screenwriter, director, and finding the perfect casting for the role of MJ. Bringing the movie to completion will take at least a year so it shouldn’t take place of a rebuttal documentary but act as a supplementary piece. The MJ movie will be how most future generations will be introduced to MJ and his music and will allow the estate in the long term to control the narrative and keep things focused on Michael’s artistry and human sides.

just my 2 cents.