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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

terrell said:
Washington Post need to shut up and deal with their own drama with someone in there camp exposing himself to someone and for LYING on those students who are suing the paper.
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Well said. And Billboard seems to be bought by Reed or HBO. I mean it's crystal clear.
 
It's bad enough that some people keep buying into this garbage, but what's saddest to me are the ones who are basically neutral and don't have an opinion one way or the other, but have chosen to write him off and stop listening to his music simply because of the negative association. I have seen people elsewhere on the internet basically say whether he's guilty or not they have decided to write him off because they don't want to deal with the crap anymore. It is sad to me that hearing lies and negative, untrue claims continuously could cause a person to become so distraught as to give up something they enjoy because other people have made them feel that it's bad.

On a more positive note, I was extremely happy to see these at Macy's on prominent display with other music related clothing. I am glad that stores other then H&M are using common sense and not caving into the bullcrap.



 
Let me tell you what the media is doing by lumping us with R Kelly fans, calling us names and so on... They are simply trying to paint us as 2D people without any substance so people can easily dismiss us. It's their brainwashing tool to get people to stop listening before we even speak..
 
Did you guys see that promo photo of the three losers? All three clothed in dark clothes, Wade and James putting on their "please feel sorry for me" faces and Reed looking all serious, LMAO. It's very similar to how music bands promote a new single or something.

You don't do that for a "documentary" that is so serious. Hey, it's not about money eh.

God please let something happen this year. Let them get exposed big time. Let something big happen, please. What happened to Michael throughout his life was a huge injustice already, don't let this one stay one as well, please don't.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Did you guys see that promo photo of the three losers? All three clothed in dark clothes, Wade and James putting on their "please feel sorry for me" faces and Reed looking all serious, LMAO. It's very similar to how music bands promote a new single or something.

You don't do that for a "documentary" that is so serious. Hey, it's not about money eh.

God please let something happen this year. Let them get exposed big time. Let something big happen, please. What happened to Michael throughout his life was a huge injustice already, don't let this one stay one as well, please don't.
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pathetic. There are two promo shots, one with dark clothes and one with white clothes. They are the scum of the earth.
 
KOPV said:
Let me tell you what the media is doing by lumping us with R Kelly fans, calling us names and so on... They are simply trying to paint us as 2D people without any substance so people can easily dismiss us. It's their brainwashing tool to get people to stop listening before we even speak..
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This couldnt be more true. I seen a headline that said something like "Jackson fans sound like Flat Earthers" lol the lengths they will go to make us sound crazy and discredit us. On a side note, I might be open minded to some conspiracies, however flat earth is not one of them. Knowing the facts about each case against MJ will prove his innocence. Defending him is nowhere near as "out there" as thinking the earth is flat lol.

Didnt Wade say he "didnt know" it was abuse until 2012 but also said he protected MJ and lied in the '05 trial so MJ wouldnt lose his kids...wouldnt that mean he knew of the abuse 7 years before? If you believed you were abused wouldnt you want to put that person in prison and stop them from being around any children? Let alone MJs own? Holes and contradictions....
 
KOPV said:
Let me tell you what the media is doing by lumping us with R Kelly fans, calling us names and so on... They are simply trying to paint us as 2D people without any substance so people can easily dismiss us. It's their brainwashing tool to get people to stop listening before we even speak..
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Wont happen. MJ fans has facts and like I keep saying MJ was treated far worst than R Kelly whom the media overall ignored.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
This couldnt be more true. I seen a headline that said something like "Jackson fans sound like Flat Earthers" lol the lengths they will go to make us sound crazy and discredit us. On a side note, I might be open minded to some conspiracies, however flat earth is not one of them. Knowing the facts about each case against MJ will prove his innocence. Defending him is nowhere near as "out there" as thinking the earth is flat lol.

Didnt Wade say he "didnt know" it was abuse until 2012 but also said he protected MJ and lied in the '05 trial so MJ wouldnt lose his kids...wouldnt that mean he knew of the abuse 7 years before? If you believed you were abused wouldnt you want to put that person in prison and stop them from being around any children? Let alone MJs own? Holes and contradictions....
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They are the ones who are flat earthers. Anyone can say what they want, the FACTS prove who is rightg. MJ fans do not have to lie, change stories, etc to prove our points.
 
That's one of the reasons why I don't read a lot of articles because it's full of junk. I move ahead, and not let them get in the way. They're only fooling themselves at this point.
 
did frank cascio or the cascio family give any statement yet? frank deleted his twitter or something? whats going on with him?
 
Glanni said:
did frank cascio or the cascio family give any statement yet? frank deleted his twitter or something? whats going on with him?
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He posted something implying the doc was propaganda and then deleted his twitter.
 
I love the art show on MJ in Germany. He is stepping on the devil. Good depiction on what is going on now.
 
KOPV;4251050 said:
Let me tell you what the media is doing by lumping us with R Kelly fans, calling us names and so on... They are simply trying to paint us as 2D people without any substance so people can easily dismiss us. It's their brainwashing tool to get people to stop listening before we even speak..
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They’re trying to test our sanity and make us come off wrong when they’re the ones in the wrong.
They’re trying to brainwash the masses into thinking he’s guilty and anyone who does research and has their own mind regarding Michael are called every horrible name.
The fact that a journalist in an article stated that legal government documents are disinformation is not only embarrassing, but disrespectful to me and other fans intelligence.
We did what they’re lazy and pathetic asses couldn’t (or wouldn’t) do which was look deeper into the subject.
The American media has shown their entire ass during this stunt and has officially turned me off of them for good.
It’s embarrassing to see that other countries are actually seeing them for the frauds that they are and are actually putting pressure on them.
It makes me wish Michael would’ve just stayed overseas and never came back because America didn’t deserve him.
 
It would be nice if there were laws around how the media is speaking about us.. Dan comparing us to "isis"? in what world is that ok? It's complete BS that they toss Michaels name through the mud and drag us in it too.. Not that I would EVER want Michael to be drug alone, we have his back 100%.. We just need protection too, there may not be laws against slandering the dead, but they are talking sh** about US too.. we are here!
 
KOPV said:
It would be nice if there were laws around how the media is speaking about us.. Dan comparing us to "isis"? in what world is that ok? It's complete BS that they toss Michaels name through the mud and drag us in it too.. Not that I would EVER want Michael to be drug alone, we have his back 100%.. We just need protection too, there may not be laws against slandering the dead, but they are talking sh** about US too.. we are here!
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He can talk all the nonsense he want, Dan fears fans because fans tell the truth. No MJ haters and he is isis. Stalking a man who is no longer here. he is the fool and anyone who agrees with him. No, I will NOT stand by and let them trash MJ if i have anything to clear his name. What give them the right to defend accusers whom are clearly liars? I can call him and MJ haters names as they want to call us.
 
terrell said:
He can talk all the nonsense he want, Dan fears fans because fans tell the truth. No MJ haters and he is isis. Stalking a man who is no longer here. he is the fool and anyone who agrees with him. No, I will NOT stand by and let them trash MJ if i have anything to clear his name. What give them the right to defend accusers whom are clearly liars? I can call him and MJ haters names as they want to call us.
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Well, he calls us names, well let's see... I know it's not the right attitude... what the hell... He needs to have several seats, looking like a broke ass Freddy Krueger
 
He's afraid, and not without good reason; his film's plot has more holes than a pasta strainer and the general public is starting to realize it.
 
Mike P.;4251046 said:
It's bad enough that some people keep buying into this garbage, but what's saddest to me are the ones who are basically neutral and don't have an opinion one way or the other, but have chosen to write him off and stop listening to his music simply because of the negative association. I have seen people elsewhere on the internet basically say whether he's guilty or not they have decided to write him off because they don't want to deal with the crap anymore. It is sad to me that hearing lies and negative, untrue claims continuously could cause a person to become so distraught as to give up something they enjoy because other people have made them feel that it's bad.

On a more positive note, I was extremely happy to see these at Macy's on prominent display with other music related clothing. I am glad that stores other then H&M are using common sense and not caving into the bullcrap.



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Which Macy’s location is this? I need that Thriller shirt.
 
The fans should sue Dan Greed. End of Story. ISIS????? Fttf
And how come the good ones like Charles Thompson are not contacted by the estate?
He ought to get air time on major shows on American TV and the larger LA radio stations
 
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christy said:
The fans should Dan Reed. End of Story. ISIS????? Fttf
And how come the good ones like Charles Thompson are not contacted by the estate?
He ought to get air time on major shows on American TV and the larger LA radio stations
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You do know that the American media is in cahoots with this conspiracy. They are as guilty as the child porn director and two scam artists. They are not going to,allow someone like Charles Thompson on TV to defend Michael. The media is complicit with this HOAX!
 
Carmour260;4251073 said:
Well, he calls us names, well let's see... I know it's not the right attitude... what the hell... He needs to have several seats, looking like a broke ass Freddy Krueger
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Dan GREED acts as if it is alright to say negative things about Michael and his fans and fans just sit back and take it. He sorely underestimated MJ fandom, if he thinks that.This entitled prick is trying to intimidate fans and it’s not going to work. I am not afraid of him and would meet him in a courtroom on any day. You have to show these people that they WILL be challenged for their lies, and we have that RIGHT. Get used to it supporters of this promoter of child porn, Dan Greed and the extortionists, Wade Robson and James Safechuck. Btw, screenshot every tweet or comment that you post, so these con artists can’t claim that you are making threats.
There is no law against calling these monsters out. I am NOT going to be PC in dealing with these promoters of child porn and NAMBLA doctrine.
 
KOPV;4251071 said:
It would be nice if there were laws around how the media is speaking about us.. Dan comparing us to "isis"? in what world is that ok? It's complete BS that they toss Michaels name through the mud and drag us in it too.. Not that I would EVER want Michael to be drug alone, we have his back 100%.. We just need protection too, there may not be laws against slandering the dead, but they are talking sh** about US too.. we are here!
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Dan Greed is desperate. He’s flailing around trying to deflect from the LN fiasco. He knows he’s been busted and he will say and do,anything. Take anything he says with a grain of salt. He is not only desperate, he is a coward.
 
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