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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Safechuck went back to the ranch in the late 90's to do somethng for college. Prob took the pics then. Mj wasnt there
 
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What it did is exposing our media. We need to take his article and spreading on every news site and everywhere.
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Yes that's the problem. The media gave all this attention to the crap film which everyone responds to and now they aren't interested in the major holes that are appearing.

People should link Zieglers article to the celebs who came out against Michael. Shove it in their face so hopefully some of them might read it and think again.
 
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Yes that's the problem. The media gave all this attention to the crap film which everyone responds to and now they aren't interested in the major holes that are appearing.

People should link Zieglers article to the celebs who came out against Michael. Shove it in their face so hopefully some of them might read it and think again.
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I notice USATODAY has removed the video under the life section about LN which always strolled by. They removed it from flashing yesterday. hmmm.
 
I really appreciate Ziegler. He is all I ever wanted from a journalist. He is not a fawning fan for whom Michael is a god, but he is someone who wants to be fair. It is sad that that is a rare thing in this day and age.
 
There is an intresting tweet in the end of this video from James cousin Tony Safechuck from 2013:


Does someone know more about it?

I would like to know what James older brother and sister have to say to his allegations.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is U.S. Media Silent on the Implosion of Leaving Neverland, While the U.K. Press is Pouncing? (By senior columnist <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a>) <a href="https://t.co/90Zdb7q1v9">https://t.co/90Zdb7q1v9</a> <a href="https://t.co/uQvTlzDdCD">pic.twitter.com/uQvTlzDdCD</a></p>&mdash; Mediaite (@Mediaite) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1113818488940851200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#127897;&#65039;<a href="https://twitter.com/V103Atlanta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@V103Atlanta</a>: “But wait, the director didn’t fact check before he directed this documentary?” <a href="https://t.co/v9hwBnwfdy">pic.twitter.com/v9hwBnwfdy</a></p>&mdash; Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/status/1113555916031500289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson fans find multiple inconsistencies in Safechuck and Robson's accounts of abuse <a href="https://t.co/X1mjgPlzhH">https://t.co/X1mjgPlzhH</a> <a href="https://t.co/RPnW15q10e">pic.twitter.com/RPnW15q10e</a></p>&mdash; Mirror Celeb (@MirrorCeleb) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirrorCeleb/status/1113390008105357313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oops &#128556;.<br>Thank for reporting this <a href="https://twitter.com/EBONYMag?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EBONYMag</a> <a href="https://t.co/V5jgIUJlsC">https://t.co/V5jgIUJlsC</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1113537391048908802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another Safechuck/Reed credibility issue besides the train station. In promoting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> Reed said Safechuck told him Michael made a sex tape. It's same discredited lie Michael sued Victor Gutierrez over and won $2.7 mil. <a href="https://t.co/3jXR0Xcj71">https://t.co/3jXR0Xcj71</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@neverlandfacts</a></p>&mdash; Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/status/1113871789648519168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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terrell said:
Nothing from TMZ showing these lies?
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I never check that vulture website but I do check Twitter many many times a day and I didn't see a single mention of it. Absolutely unbelievable because usually these guys are on top of all that. There is no reason for that Harvey Levin dude to ignore this.

Unless he has something to do with it. It's really becoming quite suspicious how they don't cover it at all.

That being said, I've sent the Ziegler article to tons of news channels and radio stations in the USA on Twitter. We can't give up. You'd think that at some point even they have to give in.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kid dancing to Michael Jackson in the NYC Subway!He made my day,i have him 5$ for this!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJinnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/lovingMichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#lovingMichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/IwlkcKfXYf">pic.twitter.com/IwlkcKfXYf</a></p>&mdash; Samia (@samedi21) <a href="https://twitter.com/samedi21/status/1113811306019217408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Culture Report: Lauren London Breaks Her Silence, Michael Jackson's ... <a href="https://t.co/jiJju9iBhU">https://t.co/jiJju9iBhU</a> You should watch this <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a></p>&mdash; David John William Prior (@davidprior8) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidprior8/status/1113524480226287617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My new column is the result of a ton of work by a lot of people. It details all the huge problems that have emerged with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> which the U.S. media is ignoring, while the U.K. press is not.<br><br>When will <a href="https://twitter.com/Oprah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Oprah</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a> be held accountable?! <a href="https://t.co/zjf8K38FZt">https://t.co/zjf8K38FZt</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1113842855636688896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They won’t. And this is why I never trust the media. Their primary agenda is simply to make $$$. Even at the expense of truth and facts. It’s a shame and it’s dangerous for society. <a href="https://t.co/eFpvmGR2sd">https://t.co/eFpvmGR2sd</a></p>&mdash; TJ Jackson (@tjjackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson/status/1113868787030286336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The number of MJ fans who have come forward in response to this tweet stating they are survivors of child abuse is overwhelming. For Dan to suggest that these people don’t care about it is truly a disgrace. Thank you for being so brave in speaking out and supporting the truth. <a href="https://t.co/9ixTiFp2yo">https://t.co/9ixTiFp2yo</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1113856623636897797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Man Behind The Dance is a short documentary planned to be released in May, 2019. Stay tuned by liking the official Page. &#127775;&#127775;&#127775;&#127775;&#127775;&#128516; <a href="https://t.co/WMZoJ0W4HP">https://t.co/WMZoJ0W4HP</a></p>&mdash; LaVelle Smith Jr. (@lavellesmithjr_) <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_/status/1113800861451526145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This weekend I will re-watch Leaving Neverland &amp; analyze every single frame as I know there are more inconsistencies to be found. The mainstream media is shit for this. Thank god for the few decent journalist who shined a light on this monstrosity. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/NzwMS0tg3x">pic.twitter.com/NzwMS0tg3x</a></p>&mdash; Medline Masson&#127469;&#127481; (@MedlineMasson) <a href="https://twitter.com/MedlineMasson/status/1113858472959987718?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a><br> Mute who? Taken today at JC Penny in Los Angeles <a href="https://t.co/NYf3LVG5X3">pic.twitter.com/NYf3LVG5X3</a></p>&mdash; Neverland Truther (@neverlandtruth) <a href="https://twitter.com/neverlandtruth/status/1113650940685324289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJONE has sold extremely well throughout the month of March and the sales are looking great for the month of April.</p>&mdash; Cherrelle (@Happychick93) <a href="https://twitter.com/Happychick93/status/1113841679352651776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two days away from our interview thus the second day of our promo shoot. <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> both advised me that the glasses don't make a difference. I beg to differ, it clearly made me skinnier and more credible.<a href="https://t.co/GkNVUs816r">https://t.co/GkNVUs816r</a> <a href="https://t.co/nnwa3l1Etq">pic.twitter.com/nnwa3l1Etq</a></p>&mdash; Danny Wu (@dannywuyue) <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue/status/1113536268703477760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dan Reed in FINLAND interview loses his sh*t -- &quot;We didn't give you Fact after fact after fact.. we gave you a journey&quot; LOL - The dude is bonkers <a href="https://t.co/MbwdjokLR8">https://t.co/MbwdjokLR8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1113605032132268032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dan, I get it. It’s your film, your baby, your work for years, I know the feeling, I’m a filmmaker. The problem is that you went for the fame and controversia before checking the facts, and now you are ****ed because everyone is doing the work you didn’t do. Search the truth.</p>&mdash; Marcos Cabotá (@MarcosCabota) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcosCabota/status/1113838694992105473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Most High Revealed...Victory is Yours bigbro!!! I know You're smiling right now, &amp; there is more to Come. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/michaeljackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#michaeljackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/king?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#king</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/big?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#big</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/heart?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#heart</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/legend?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#legend</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/newjackswing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#newjackswing</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/legacy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#legacy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/teddyriley?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#teddyriley</a> <a href="https://t.co/ujvgaHcxob">https://t.co/ujvgaHcxob</a></p>&mdash; TEDDY RILEY (@TeddyRiley1) <a href="https://twitter.com/TeddyRiley1/status/1113883898973437954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Peter Andre hangs out with Michael Jackson's family after supporting dead star <a href="https://t.co/jCXZcAvCLq">https://t.co/jCXZcAvCLq</a></p>&mdash; Adal Aziz (@AdalAziz786) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdalAziz786/status/1113827178163134466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jacobshagen once said this in an interview with MJWL about making up false claims about Michael Jackson. Guess someone is in need of a lot of money <a href="https://t.co/Ee4LcBjwV9">pic.twitter.com/Ee4LcBjwV9</a></p>&mdash; extraterrestrial (@nonamejustheree) <a href="https://twitter.com/nonamejustheree/status/1113531847156355072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a> Safechuck says he was molested on the beds in the castle and the arcade. Brad Sunberg and Allan Scanlan both independently stated there were no beds in the castle or the arcade. They knew Neverland in and out. <a href="https://t.co/EK9zd8sO0X">pic.twitter.com/EK9zd8sO0X</a></p>&mdash; Believe the victims of false accusers (@Hammertonhal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hammertonhal/status/1113882531915603969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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Oh .... I didn't remember that James said that he was molested in the castle and the accade.
What sick fantasys these guys have.

Again James mentioned nothing about all this places in his complaint.
It his complaint everthing in Neverland happened in MJs bedroom suite.
 
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I did just notice that Taj and John Ziegler are following that Jordanc Twitter account. I don't believe it's legitimately him, but still.
 
a search is necessary for the beds in the castle and the arcade story.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McDonald remove Michael's HIStory Statue, well we put it on our chests then! Get this and not a Big Mac! <a href="https://t.co/sXjcdDTKne">https://t.co/sXjcdDTKne</a> <a href="https://t.co/rgAmJc9k1G">pic.twitter.com/rgAmJc9k1G</a></p>&mdash; kingofshop (@MJKingofshop) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJKingofshop/status/1113458823879168001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Option to purchase Leaving Neverland DVD has been pulled by <a href="https://twitter.com/AmazonUK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmazonUK</a> - Thank you Amazon for having the decency to prevent this disgusting, false movie from being available. <a href="https://t.co/2287PYj4gb">pic.twitter.com/2287PYj4gb</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1113762216858279936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was there in 2004/2005 to defend Michael Jackson, outside and inside the courtroom and saw all those alleged accusers’s testimonies being discredited by the defense with strong evidences!He was innocent then and he is still innocent today,always will be!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/pdbW9Zwwkq">pic.twitter.com/pdbW9Zwwkq</a></p>&mdash; Samia (@samedi21) <a href="https://twitter.com/samedi21/status/1084542077671784448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Januar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson's most famous impersonator sees rise in ticket sales. <br><br>Navi will open his show with Tabloid Junkie. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a><br> <a href="https://t.co/RaGXXQVuvw">https://t.co/RaGXXQVuvw</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyMailCeleb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DailyMailCeleb</a></p>&mdash; VP_Advocacy (@VP_Advocacy) <a href="https://twitter.com/VP_Advocacy/status/1113810668300439552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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https://www.billboard.com/articles/...eaving-neverland-and-wade-robson-relationship

Brandi Jackson on 'Neverland' and Wade Robson: 'It's Very Upsetting to See What He Would Do to a Friend'

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Almost 10 years have elapsed since Michael Jackson died, and his niece Brandi Jackson says it's time to let him rest in peace. &#8220;My uncle endured investigations, trials and humiliation, and he was found not guilty," says the 37-year-old photographer. "The public likes to hold onto this narrative that he was sleeping with little boys and it&#8217;s weird, but that&#8217;s really not the narrative. My uncle never could have done these horrible things.&#8221;

From her perspective, the allegations that have been leveled against Michael Jackson since the early 1990s are racially motivated. "When you look at the entire situation, and you start to break it down, it&#8217;s because he was a strong, influential black man," she says....
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
There is an intresting tweet in the end of this video from James cousin Tony Safechuck from 2013:


Does someone know more about it?

I would like to know what James older brother and sister have to say to his allegations.
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It is very intresting when it is really true that James cousin spend much time with James in Neverland.

When they left this out of the story it is like they didn't mention Brandy in Wades story because it didn't fit in the narrative they wanna spin in LN.

I think the cousin is maybe the second boy in this audition video at the safechucks home in LN which is then in the same age then James.
 
Brandi Jackson is such a lovely, lovely young woman. Such a strong and articulate advocate for her Uncle Michael.

He certainly would be proud of her, I sure am.

Her interview was great!!!
 
Yeah... Brandi and Taj are 100 times more symphatic and trustful then Wade, James and Reed and this helps MJ and his defense A LOT.
I think people like to listen much more to MJ Taj and Brandi then to what Reed and these greedy accusers have to say! ??
 
Big Apple NYC;4253553 said:
Brandi Jackson is such a lovely, lovely young woman. Such a strong and articulate advocate for her Uncle Michael.

He certainly would be proud of her, I sure am.

Her interview was great!!!
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I literally (like literally) saw a comment where someone asked why does she keep saying the same thing in all of her interviews.
That’s when I knew the type of people we are dealing with when it comes to Michael.
 
ksat9;4253557 said:
I literally (like literally) saw a comment where someone asked why does she keep saying the same thing in all of her interviews.
That&#8217;s when I knew the type of people we are dealing with when it comes to Michael.
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People who tell the truth don't have to keep changing their stories
 
Again the estate's latest statement is pathetic to say the least. Zero confidence in them.
 
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