Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow! See this, <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NeverlandFacts</a>? The train station inconsistency, which they initially insisted (including in statements to the national press) wasn&#8217;t an inconsistency, has now been mysteriously edited out of the streaming version of the show. <a href="https://t.co/S8bX9gfh5P">https://t.co/S8bX9gfh5P</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1169001602872696834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> and still they wont say they made it all up, unbelievable
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJ: &quot;I hate when my dog &#8203;&#8203;follows me in every place sniffing my ass ...&#9748;&#9748;&#9748; &quot; <a href="https://t.co/whObEnLmze">pic.twitter.com/whObEnLmze</a></p>&mdash; The King Of Pop &#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533; (@The_Kingss777) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_Kingss777/status/1168863055154991105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> yep this looks like someone who was abused
 
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Alh21;4268066 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow! See this, <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NeverlandFacts</a>? The train station inconsistency, which they initially insisted (including in statements to the national press) wasn&#8217;t an inconsistency, has now been mysteriously edited out of the streaming version of the show. <a href="https://t.co/S8bX9gfh5P">https://t.co/S8bX9gfh5P</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1169001602872696834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> and still they wont say they made it all up, unbelievable

Yeah it's fricking disgusting. I bet we won't even hear the media about it, let alone those big mouthed celebrities that had some shit to say.
 
Yeah it's fricking disgusting. I bet we won't even hear the media about it, let alone those big mouthed celebrities that had some shit to say.
That is why we keep talking about it and posting it. They read it and people know it BS that is why they block u when u present it.
 
That is why we keep talking about it and posting it. They read it and people know it BS that is why they block u when u present it.

Why can't we email the media with this, is there a process that has the be followed or something? It just beggers belief that this information is now out there and still it's being ignored by everyone except MJs fans and his family, I just don't get it, I really don't
 
She is troll. She blocked me when I presented the evidence and challenge her comments. Then she wrote back LOL. That is a social media drama starter. She care nothing about the issue.

Yes I'm blocked as well lol, I've been on twitter the last few days and as far as I'm aware there doesn't seem to be any trolls, I haven't had to put anyone straight all week, it could be one of two things, either they don't see the point any more because of the backlash they get or they know its pointless as everyone now knows the truth
 
Looks liek people LOVED Dave CHapplle show.99% of people loved in on Rotten tomatoe.
 
Why can't we email the media with this, is there a process that has the be followed or something? It just beggers belief that this information is now out there and still it's being ignored by everyone except MJs fans and his family, I just don't get it, I really don't
No, people are getting it. It is just SOME media entertainment outlets that still wants to push the agenda. People know but some media just want to bring down MJ even if they know these guys are LIARS. The radio station here always played MJ but I notice the songs have gone up from 1 to 2 songs a day to 3 tp 4 songs a day.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exactly. It’s amazing which things they cut for “time”&#128071;&#127997; <a href="https://t.co/CV7BwwEXR6">https://t.co/CV7BwwEXR6</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1169074799903039488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">His excellent tweets. ‘No guys, it’s fine. He wasn’t lying in the TV show. He was lying in his two sworn statements, signed under penalty of perjury. So he’s definitely reliable.’</p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1169275461140131842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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Hey, fam.

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somewhereinthedark;4267729 said:
Chris Brown loves Michael and Michael loved him. He has ALWAYS defended Michael and shows his love in every way. That punk 50 cent spewed the negative filth, Chris didn&#8217;t. End of story.

Now that I have re-read my comment, I realize I may have sounded a little harsh towards Chris Brown and I do apologize. I actually like Chris, but I was mad about what 50 said at the time and thought it was ludicrous to have compared him to MJ. It is true though that most of the time when I hear someone bring Chris Brown up, it's usually a dumb joke or something in reference about the Rihanna thing, which I don't necessarily agree with it's just been my observation.

I don't hear much of Chris on the radio but I actually have enjoyed his last 2 albums quite alot. Heartbreak on a Full Moon was the first CB album I ever bought and eventually I will pick up Indigo. I am truly glad he is sticking up for MJ.

As for 50, I truly think he is an a**hole and needs to stop making a fool of himself.
 
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I never compare Chris Brown with Michael. sorry. but Michael owns that spot and i think he's knows it. but they do supports each other. :)
 
Hey, fam.

Since this is currently the main hub of activity on the forum, I'm going to leave this note here:

It's important that you report offensive or inappropriate posts when you see them, using the report button on the bar at the bottom of the post. Please don't assume someone else will do it or that it's not necessary. Me and Mikky do our best to be here as often as possible, but we aren't going to see everything. When you report a post it sends an alert to staff, so we can see the immediate concern and take action if required. Sometimes nothing needs to be done, but sometimes it does. Either way, it's a big help to us if you use the report button.

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What happen? i guess i missed it.
 
he went peaceful. He did not know what hit him. That was why they must have the proper equipment if the breathing stop. Really, I did not think that medicine could do that to you. I had surgery and it was used on me in 2007 and 2008. It was in 2008 I realize things can happen. My chest was sore after I woke up and I later learn the machine took over my breathing. I never knew why until MJ died and I ask my doctor about it. Some people like the feel it gives them when they wake up and put the hot blanket on them; but still, it is not putting anyone to sleep; a person is just unconscious with the illusion he/she is sleep. MJ should have NEVER gamble with his life in this manner especially when he was warned by others not to use it and if any doctor does, that doctor does not care about him (and it is an Anesthesiologist who is suppose to administrate it). MJ should have been in a medical sleep clinic.

Exactly. i know. bless Michael. :cry: and whoever who administrate the medicine to Murry should of went to jail with him. he was murdered they knew exactly what they was doing. like i said if Michael beg for the stuff they should of said no to him. i understand Michael wanted to do those shows but if his health wasn't in the line then he should of cancel them. i know that probably would of hurt him BUT his health was more important.

i really hope he did go peacefully. they say heart attacks do hurts for some people but not all.

Which makes me think i wonder did Michael get some sleep days before he passed because days before he passed he looked happy and he was in good shape. the doctors said he was very health for his age. so, that's what's gets me. something is totally off about that. we all know he was murdered but those days before the show....:scratch:

 
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Exactly. i know. bless Michael. :cry: and whoever who administrate the medicine to Murry should of went to jail with him. he was murdered they knew exactly what they was doing. like i said if Michael beg for the stuff they should of said no to him. i understand Michael wanted to do those shows but if his health wasn't in the line then he should of cancel them. i know that probably would of hurt him BUT his health was more important.

i really hope he did go peacefully. they say heart attacks do hurts for some people but not all.

Which makes me think i wonder did Michael get some sleep days before he passed because days before he passed he looked happy and he was in good shape. the doctors said he was very health for his age. so, that's what's gets me. something is totally off about that. we all know he was murdered but those days before the show....:scratch:
They said he looked happy which means he was not in distress. He felt nothing even going into cardic arrest . He just did not wake up. And I agree, MJ should not have been given that med in that manner no matter if he asked for it or not. MJ should have lived to be an old man. God allows us to get warnings but when we do not listen, we pay a price at our own hands. MJ was WARNED but he did not listen to the warnings. And Murray was warned (if u have to sneak to do things, u know it is not right to do and you will pay a price for that as well) but he wanted $$ at all cost. And he paid a price.
 
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MY "MUTE WHO" UPDATE:

I just got back from an 8-Day Carnival Cruise and am delighted to report that Michael's music was played all over the ship!!!!! I take a Carnival Cruise every year, for the last 13 years, and they have ALWAYS showed MJ a lot of love. This year, I really didn't know what to expect, but Carnival did not miss a beat. Their love for MJ continues.

Case in point: Not only was his music played all over the ship, but on Monday, September 2nd, they dedicated an entire hour to playing ONLY his music. This is how it read in the Fun Times (which is a daily newsletter, highlighting all the days activities on board the ship):

LIMELIGHT LOUNGE, 4 MID
MICHAEL JACKSON HOUR WITH YOUR FUN SQUAD HOST


It was great and folks were going nuts. The Fun Squad Host had folks SCREAMING: MICHAEL, MICHAEL, MICHAEL!!!!! I couldn't stop smiling. LOL.

My favorite part was seeing the young folks knowing all the words to MJ's songs, and some even "attempting" MJ's dance moves. MUTE WHO!!!!!!
 
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They said he looked happy which means he was not in distress. He felt nothing even going into cardic arrest . He just did not wake up. And I agree, MJ should not have been given that med in that manner no matter if he asked for it or not. MJ should have lived to be an old man. God allows us to get warnings but when we do not listen, we pay a price at our own hands. MJ was WARNED but he did not listen to the warnings. And Murray was warned (if u have to sneak to do things, u know it is not right to do and you will pay a price for that as well) but he wanted $$ at all cost. And he paid a price.

No i mean days before the touring. that's what's i'm talking about. he was healthy and happy then all of sudden he became sick. that's what's really off about this.

that's was nice way to go. in your sleep peacefully with no pain or anything. but it's still sad though because he went too soon. :(

everyone behind this was wrong. like said i love Michael but he kind of killed himself. i'm not blaming him for all of this but he should of been more worry about his health then touring.

like said Murry and person let him have this drug was wrong too. i believe it was all for money too and Murry did it because he didn't care about Michael at all. i personally feel Murry hated Michael as a whole and that's was another reason why he murdered him. i believe more people was behind this as well but quiet about it. i hope these people all go to heck.
 
Now that I have re-read my comment, I realize I may have sounded a little harsh towards Chris Brown and I do apologize. I actually like Chris, but I was mad about what 50 said at the time and thought it was ludicrous to have compared him to MJ. It is true though that most of the time when I hear someone bring Chris Brown up, it's usually a dumb joke or something in reference about the Rihanna thing, which I don't necessarily agree with it's just been my observation.

I don't hear much of Chris on the radio but I actually have enjoyed his last 2 albums quite alot. Heartbreak on a Full Moon was the first CB album I ever bought and eventually I will pick up Indigo. I am truly glad he is sticking up for MJ.

As for 50, I truly think he is an a**hole and needs to stop making a fool of himself.

In for a treat. I thought Heartbreak was amazing but Indigo is another level.
 
Michael would probably be "old man" now but i also find something else weird. Michael claimed that he did not want to aged. he did said he wanted to live forever but he didn't want to age. i find that so weird yet so i don't know? like the part of me feel he got his "wish". which i'm not saying he "killed" himself. but the fact he didn't want to aged is like i don't know.... maybe Michael knew he was gonna die young (which he did) and he got his "wish". i know that sounds scary and weird but i don't know.
 
Even if Michael was an "old man" he still would of had an child heart. he will always be our peter pan. bless him. ^_^
 
MY "MUTE WHO" UPDATE:

I just got back from an 8-Day Carnival Cruise and am delighted to report that Michael's music was played all over the ship!!!!! I take a Carnival Cruise every year, for the last 13 years, and they have ALWAYS showed MJ a lot of love. This year, I really didn't know what to expect, but Carnival did not miss a beat. Their love for MJ continues.

Case in point: Not only was his music played all over the ship, but on Monday, September 2nd, they dedicated an entire hour to playing ONLY his music. This is how it read in the Fun Times (which is a daily newsletter, highlighting all the days activities on board the ship):

LIMELIGHT LOUNGE, 4 MID
MICHAEL JACKSON HOUR WITH YOUR FUN SQUAD HOST


It was great and folks were going nuts. The Fun Squad Host had folks SCREAMING: MICHAEL, MICHAEL, MICHAEL!!!!! I couldn't stop smiling. LOL.

My favorite part was seeing the young folks knowing all the words to MJ's songs, and some even "attempting" MJ's dance moves. MUTE WHO!!!!!!
I CAN NOT STAND YOU!!!:rofl: I am waiting to go back on a cruise myself (I was on the "Victoria" Carnival). I went on my first in 2014 and I LOVED it. On the cruise, I came in SECOND Place on the Michael Jackson song contest (I would have got first place but my mind went blank to name "Rock my World" because me and a guy was in a run off; however, my prize look better-it looks like an Olympic medal; his award was ship). Glad U had fun.
 
Michael would probably be "old man" now but i also find something else weird. Michael claimed that he did not want to aged. he did said he wanted to live forever but he didn't want to age. i find that so weird yet so i don't know? like the part of me feel he got his "wish". which i'm not saying he "killed" himself. but the fact he didn't want to aged is like i don't know.... maybe Michael knew he was gonna die young (which he did) and he got his "wish". i know that sounds scary and weird but i don't know.
I understand what you saying. That's why we have to be careful in what we 'speak'. Even with these liars, I get onto some fans on here to stop with the GLOOM DOOM talk. Many were freaking out in Feb/March and as I told them "this LN will be dissected"; and look, LN is being dissected even more just what I told them. This gets on our nerves to see these people doing this to MJ but MJ will be the one to still get the Victory in the end. Even on the VIEW today, they talked about Dave Chappell who ratings are HIGH and people are in agreement with him. People know BS and people know jokes and NOT everyone is going with this "if I say something, you got to believe me". Even the hosts of the View are agreeing that needs to stop and we need to look at both sides and not believe someone just because he/she said it. The audience applauded when something was said to this effect on the show. This shows the ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA are pushing this trash on MJ (they are still harping on the topic should MJ name be removed from MTV Vanguard- which will NEVER happen even if MTV does not say MJ's name, it will ALWAYS be IMPLIED to be MICHAEL JACKSON just like when we hear the the word "VIDEO" and "MOONWALK"). The same few entertainment media-which is two or three- same ones who bother MJ- was LYIng on Dave Chappelle to say he getting a backlash. THAT IS A LIE. MORE people are in AGreement with Dave than against. NETLIF is doing GREAT with his show and he is getting overall great response in agreement. As THE VIEW hosts say "Metoo is starting to be a backlash".
 
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https://www.showbiz411.com/2013/06/...005-nothing-happened-to-him-or-to-wade-robson


Michael Jackson: Neverland kid in 2005 “Nothing happened” to him or Wade Robson

Wade Robson is the young man who is now suing Michael Jackson’s estate. He claims Jackson molested him from age 7 to 14. Thanks to the re-surfacing of old “files” from the old “National Enquirer” in the British press today, I had go to back and look through my files from 2005. And what I found is pretty interesting.

I met with a young man named Bobby Newt, a kid from the files whom National Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager targeted as a Michael Jackson “victim.” By 2005 he was an adult, and I met with him. He told me nothing happened to him. He also added that nothing happened to Wade Robson, who was then going to be a witness in the trial.

Bobby Newt and his two brothers, who wanted to be the next Jackson 5, spent two weeks with Michael at his Hayvenhurst house in Encino (this was before Neverland). This is what I wrote:

“…nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

“I don’t know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks,” he said. “And he didn’t try anything.”

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson “victim” Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

“Wade is straight as they come. He’s getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either,” Newt said.

Published April 7, 2005
Former Protege Vouches for Jackson
No matter who testifies next in Michael Jackson‘s alleged “prior acts” of sexual abuse mini-trial, the prosecution will have to deal with the fact that only one boy will show up to say he was molested many years ago by the pop star.

Now comes Robert Newt, 30, long a “Holy Grail” for The National Enquirer from its investigation into Jackson circa 1993.

Newt and his twin brother Ronald Newt Jr. (now deceased) were aspiring performers and spent two weeks as guests in the Jackson family home in Encino, Calif., around 1985. They were about 11 years old. This all occurred before Neverland was completed. Michael, Janet Jackson and LaToya Jackson were all there, as well as the Jackson parents.

Fast-forward to December 1993. The National Enquirer, desperate to get a scoop that Jackson has abused children, heard that the Newt kids once spent time with Jackson.

The tabloid offered the Newts’ father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.

Newt, a San Francisco “character” and filmmaker whose past includes pimping and jail time, considered the offer.

A contract was drawn up, signed by Enquirer editor David Perel. Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager, who is also now deceased, met with Newt and his son at the Marriott hotel in downtown San Francisco.

It seemed that all systems were go. But the Newts declined the offer at the last minute.

Ron Newt Sr., to whom $200,000 would have seemed like the world on a silver platter, wrote “No good sucker” where his signature was supposed to go. The reason: Nothing ever happened between Jackson and the Newt boys.

Indeed, no kids, no matter how much money was dangled by the tabloids, ever showed up to trade stories of Jackson malfeasance for big lumps of cash after the first scandal broke in 1993.

“Maybe there aren’t any other kids,” a current Enquirer editor conceded.

I met Bobby Newt yesterday near the office where he works as a mortgage broker in suburban Los Angeles.

Just as his dad promised me a few days earlier, he’s a good-looking kid. He’s half black and half Chinese.

Robert and his twin brother were likely very cute kids. They have the same features as other boys advertised as alleged Neverland “victims.” But all Bobby Newt remembers of his encounter with Jackson is good times.

And all he remembers about the man from The National Enquirer is that he wanted Bobby, then 18, to lie.

“He said, ‘Say he grabbed you on the butt. Say he grabbed you and touched you in any kind of way,'” Newt said. “He told us he took all these people down. Now he was going to take Michael down. That he would really destroy him. He told us he took all these other famous people down. All the major people that had scandals against them. He said, ‘We take these people down. That’s what we do.'”

Prior to Bobby’s meeting with Mitteager, Bobby’s father met with him and brought along an intermediary, San Francisco politician, businessman and fellow jailbird Charlie Walker.

Walker is infamous in San Francisco circles for being “hooked up” to anything interesting cooking on the West Coast.

“My dad said these dudes are offering this money to take Michael Jackson down. And the guy [Mitteager] said, ‘Say he touched you. All you have to do is say it. But you might have to take the stand. You might have to go on ‘Oprah’ in front of all these people. You have to be prepared for this thing. Just say it. And we’ll give you money,'” Newt said.

Two pieces of evidence confirm the Newts’ story. One is the actual contract proffered by the Enquirer and signed by Perel, who declined to comment for this story.

The contract, written as a letter, says it’s an agreement between the tabloid and the Newts for their exclusive story regarding “your relationship with and knowledge of Michael Jackson, and his sexuality, your knowledge of Michael Jackson’s sexual contact and attempts at sexual contact with Robert Newt and others.”

Mitteager expected them to sign, even though it was completely untrue and there was, in fact, no story.

He knew you were lying, I reminded Bobby Newt.

“Exactly! And he didn’t care! He was like, ‘Just say it and we’ll give you the money.’ And I was like, ‘He [Jackson] never touched me!” Newt said. “He [Mitteager] was really fishing and really digging. Think about it — most people you say it to, ‘We’ll give you this money,’ even [if it’s not true]. And they’d take it.”

Bobby Newt recalled more details of the 30-minute meeting with The National Enquirer’s reporter:

“He was trying to coach me — if I decided to take the money, what would happen. He said ‘You know, it’s going to be a huge scandal. You’ll probably have a lot of people not liking you. You’re going to be famous!’ But to me, you’d be ruined. And the truth is Michael didn’t do anything even close to trying to molest us.”

Ironically, the second piece of evidence also backs up the Newts’ story. Unbeknownst to them, they were taped by Mitteager.

I told you last week that Mitteager did more surreptitious taping than Richard Nixon. When he died, the tapes were left to Hollywood investigator Paul Barresi. His dozens of hours of tapes include a conversation between Mitteager, Ron Newt Sr. and Charlie Walker.

When I read some of the transcript back to Newt the other day, he was shocked.

“I said all that,” he observed, surprised to have his memory prodded some 12 years later.

Back in the mid-’80s, Ron Newt Sr. put his three sons together as a singing group much as Joseph Jackson did. He called them The Newtrons.

After much pushing, he got the attention of Joe Jackson, who agreed to manage the group. Joe Jackson got the Newtrons a showcase at the Roxy in West Hollywood.

Michael showed up and loved them. The result was a two-week stay for the boys at the Encino house on Hayvenhurst Ave., where they were supposed to work on their music.

“We would see Michael in passing. We didn’t see him, maybe, because he was working on an album. We saw him downstairs in the kitchen and we talked to him,” he said.

The Newtrons eventually got a record contract and recorded the Jackson 5 hit “I Want You Back” at Hayvenhurst. They also spent the night at Tito Jackson‘s house. But nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

“I don’t know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks,” he said. “And he didn’t try anything.”

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson “victim” Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

Jackson’s former maid Blanca Francia implicated Robson in the case during Monday’s testimony. Robson is not testifying for the prosecution.

“Wade is straight as they come. He’s getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either,” Newt said.

He shakes his head, thinking about those who have made claims against Jackson.

“You have to look at these people, go back and see when their relationship with Michael fractured. The calls stopped coming,” he said.

And Newt should know. After the adventure in 1985, the Newts never saw Jackson again. It didn’t bother them, Bobby says, as much as it might have others.
Wade Robson is the young man who is now suing Michael Jackson’s estate. He claims Jackson molested him from age 7 to 14. Thanks to the re-surfacing of old “files” from the old “National Enquirer” in the British press today, I had go to back and look through my files from 2005. And what I found is pretty interesting.

I met with a young man named Bobby Newt, a kid from the files whom National Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager targeted as a Michael Jackson “victim.” By 2005 he was an adult, and I met with him. He told me nothing happened to him. He also added that nothing happened to Wade Robson, who was then going to be a witness in the trial.

Bobby Newt and his two brothers, who wanted to be the next Jackson 5, spent two weeks with Michael at his Hayvenhurst house in Encino (this was before Neverland). This is what I wrote:

“…nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

“I don’t know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks,” he said. “And he didn’t try anything.”

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson “victim” Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

“Wade is straight as they come. He’s getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either,” Newt said.

Published April 7, 2005
Former Protege Vouches for Jackson
No matter who testifies next in Michael Jackson‘s alleged “prior acts” of sexual abuse mini-trial, the prosecution will have to deal with the fact that only one boy will show up to say he was molested many years ago by the pop star.

Now comes Robert Newt, 30, long a “Holy Grail” for The National Enquirer from its investigation into Jackson circa 1993.

Newt and his twin brother Ronald Newt Jr. (now deceased) were aspiring performers and spent two weeks as guests in the Jackson family home in Encino, Calif., around 1985. They were about 11 years old. This all occurred before Neverland was completed. Michael, Janet Jackson and LaToya Jackson were all there, as well as the Jackson parents.

Fast-forward to December 1993. The National Enquirer, desperate to get a scoop that Jackson has abused children, heard that the Newt kids once spent time with Jackson.

The tabloid offered the Newts’ father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.

Newt, a San Francisco “character” and filmmaker whose past includes pimping and jail time, considered the offer.

A contract was drawn up, signed by Enquirer editor David Perel. Enquirer reporter Jim Mitteager, who is also now deceased, met with Newt and his son at the Marriott hotel in downtown San Francisco.

It seemed that all systems were go. But the Newts declined the offer at the last minute.

Ron Newt Sr., to whom $200,000 would have seemed like the world on a silver platter, wrote “No good sucker” where his signature was supposed to go. The reason: Nothing ever happened between Jackson and the Newt boys.

Indeed, no kids, no matter how much money was dangled by the tabloids, ever showed up to trade stories of Jackson malfeasance for big lumps of cash after the first scandal broke in 1993.

“Maybe there aren’t any other kids,” a current Enquirer editor conceded.

I met Bobby Newt yesterday near the office where he works as a mortgage broker in suburban Los Angeles.

Just as his dad promised me a few days earlier, he’s a good-looking kid. He’s half black and half Chinese.

Robert and his twin brother were likely very cute kids. They have the same features as other boys advertised as alleged Neverland “victims.” But all Bobby Newt remembers of his encounter with Jackson is good times.

And all he remembers about the man from The National Enquirer is that he wanted Bobby, then 18, to lie.

“He said, ‘Say he grabbed you on the butt. Say he grabbed you and touched you in any kind of way,'” Newt said. “He told us he took all these people down. Now he was going to take Michael down. That he would really destroy him. He told us he took all these other famous people down. All the major people that had scandals against them. He said, ‘We take these people down. That’s what we do.'”

Prior to Bobby’s meeting with Mitteager, Bobby’s father met with him and brought along an intermediary, San Francisco politician, businessman and fellow jailbird Charlie Walker.

Walker is infamous in San Francisco circles for being “hooked up” to anything interesting cooking on the West Coast.

“My dad said these dudes are offering this money to take Michael Jackson down. And the guy [Mitteager] said, ‘Say he touched you. All you have to do is say it. But you might have to take the stand. You might have to go on ‘Oprah’ in front of all these people. You have to be prepared for this thing. Just say it. And we’ll give you money,'” Newt said.

Two pieces of evidence confirm the Newts’ story. One is the actual contract proffered by the Enquirer and signed by Perel, who declined to comment for this story.

The contract, written as a letter, says it’s an agreement between the tabloid and the Newts for their exclusive story regarding “your relationship with and knowledge of Michael Jackson, and his sexuality, your knowledge of Michael Jackson’s sexual contact and attempts at sexual contact with Robert Newt and others.”

Mitteager expected them to sign, even though it was completely untrue and there was, in fact, no story.

He knew you were lying, I reminded Bobby Newt.

“Exactly! And he didn’t care! He was like, ‘Just say it and we’ll give you the money.’ And I was like, ‘He [Jackson] never touched me!” Newt said. “He [Mitteager] was really fishing and really digging. Think about it — most people you say it to, ‘We’ll give you this money,’ even [if it’s not true]. And they’d take it.”

Bobby Newt recalled more details of the 30-minute meeting with The National Enquirer’s reporter:

“He was trying to coach me — if I decided to take the money, what would happen. He said ‘You know, it’s going to be a huge scandal. You’ll probably have a lot of people not liking you. You’re going to be famous!’ But to me, you’d be ruined. And the truth is Michael didn’t do anything even close to trying to molest us.”

Ironically, the second piece of evidence also backs up the Newts’ story. Unbeknownst to them, they were taped by Mitteager.

I told you last week that Mitteager did more surreptitious taping than Richard Nixon. When he died, the tapes were left to Hollywood investigator Paul Barresi. His dozens of hours of tapes include a conversation between Mitteager, Ron Newt Sr. and Charlie Walker.

When I read some of the transcript back to Newt the other day, he was shocked.

“I said all that,” he observed, surprised to have his memory prodded some 12 years later.

Back in the mid-’80s, Ron Newt Sr. put his three sons together as a singing group much as Joseph Jackson did. He called them The Newtrons.

After much pushing, he got the attention of Joe Jackson, who agreed to manage the group. Joe Jackson got the Newtrons a showcase at the Roxy in West Hollywood.

Michael showed up and loved them. The result was a two-week stay for the boys at the Encino house on Hayvenhurst Ave., where they were supposed to work on their music.

“We would see Michael in passing. We didn’t see him, maybe, because he was working on an album. We saw him downstairs in the kitchen and we talked to him,” he said.

The Newtrons eventually got a record contract and recorded the Jackson 5 hit “I Want You Back” at Hayvenhurst. They also spent the night at Tito Jackson‘s house. But nothing about what Bobby Newt hears now about himself or others makes sense.

“I don’t know what to believe. He had prime time with me and my brother in the guest room for two weeks,” he said. “And he didn’t try anything.”

As a footnote to all of this: In the small world of the Los Angeles music business, Bobby Newt recently worked with choreographer and alleged Jackson “victim” Wade Robson on tracks for his first album, a potential hit compendium of original R&B ballads.

Jackson’s former maid Blanca Francia implicated Robson in the case during Monday’s testimony. Robson is not testifying for the prosecution.

“Wade is straight as they come. He’s getting married. And nothing ever happened to him, either,” Newt said.

He shakes his head, thinking about those who have made claims against Jackson.

“You have to look at these people, go back and see when their relationship with Michael fractured. The calls stopped coming,” he said.

And Newt should know. After the adventure in 1985, the Newts never saw Jackson again. It didn’t bother them, Bobby says, as much as it might have others.

“They probably didn’t like it. And this is their way of getting back at him,” he said
 
The tabloid offered the Newts&#8217; father, Ronald Newt Sr., $200,000 to say that something happened between his kids and Jackson.


Even in court, one of the witnesses whom claim he saw mac touched by MJ ADMITTED ON the STAND he was PAID to LIE like this and offered this same amount. he went along with this LIE until he came to court and was confronted and AMITTED to this. This why I get ticked off with these fools who do not bring this up. See how these people LIE. I say, This mess of LN will open up the WHOLE LIES. There maybe a silver lining to this trash LN coming out after all. And I hope this info start making it rounds. I want to see the media jump on this. I hope this get put on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and give to all the low lifes life like the Guardian, LA times, Variety, Vice, etc.
 
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