Yes.
Other times it's 
This is one of the photos that I avoid cos of the pb thing. Been avoiding this one for months ...
he looks so powerful here
Oh the power! the posture, hand, face, hair! everything! It is Human Nature to drool over this.he looks so powerful here
Exactly. It's just ... beyond.
Re: Michael's Manhood - Explicit pictures are NOT allowed
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:dropdead: so hot...
Omg! Yes it did! Wth happened??
@staywild23
I don't think there are any other active moderators at the moment. I did see lot of posts that were deleted in older pager, so I am guessing (hoping) that those got cleaned up by the system. I am checking with Gaz though he has not been around for few days.
Let's hope that's it. I really hate the idea of any photos being lost. And I'm not just saying that cos I like to go in and look for treasures that need another moment in the spotlight. I think all of the threads here on the board are to be treasured (that's why I love the archives so much) but the picture threads in particular are so precious. More than any other type of thread the picture threads bring so much joy (and other things, lol).
Wow, I didn't realize that it was just you, Hiker! That must be a lot. I'm grateful for the work you do on this forum!
Anywho we'll see what it is, not to worry, not all is lost we still have so much gloriousness in this thread.
No, it's no work really. Everyone is very civil and proper.
You're amazing doll, thank you for all you do here!
Luckily for me, I was not aware of all of that negative press, just remember hearing some news about plastic surgery when he died and ignored it as some tabloid nonsense. I had no idea of how insanely famous he was at peak of his career, I have to say he redefined the concept of 'famous' for me. I won't go again into whole story, but stick to Manhood part - first thing I remember is seeing YANA video, that time it was between ok and weird. Then I saw the HIStory trailer - and I was like - is he for real! How can someone be so beautiful, so perfect (not sexy yet)
! That led to Dangerous concert, not HIStory funny enough. Just see Michael dance on stage with such precision and technique, perfect moves, perfect perfect perfect! I was like this is insane! How did I not know all this! I was already in love with his perfection.
First I was almost like 
am I even allowed to see it! Appreciate Manhood! Then HIStory tour, gold pants 
, I think that's when I searched to know if my brain has just crossed over to a perv place or there is really a lot going on with Mike Jr on stage!
It actually gives me a lot of hope that you weren't aware of the negative press about him. It mean some places in the world that was not the leading, or only narrative about him. It also makes me think that the particular brand of negativity I grew up with is probably not going to carry into younger people, because it's not the main thing we hear about now. Anyway, I think maybe because I was a pre-teen/teen in the early 2000s in the US it was just completely impossible to avoid. He was so mistreated. But beyond how horrible it was for him, which is the most important thing, I also blame it entirely for the reason that I never got into his music until now. Even though I've never been into pop music at all, in the 2000s I will still more open to it (as opposed to my 20s when I was basically 100% disinterested in it). Had I not been manipulated into thinking he was weird, and that I would be weird by extension for liking him, I probably would have been curious about him. It just makes me sad that those feelings stayed with me for so long and certainly remain with a lot of people my age.
Yeah, I have only watched it a couple times and have never really felt it. I haven't even tried to watch it since probably the first month of my obsession though, so maybe I'd feel differently about it now. I just remember feeling a little strange about it. Hard to explain.
I actually didn't like the HIStory trailer initially. Not because of his looks (he looks beautiful in it) but I didn't like the...posturing? Either way, I don't feel that way about it at all now. Keep in mind the first month or so I became obsessed with him, my mind was still extremely distorted by the media. I didn't even fully discredit the allegations in my mind until like 2 months into it, so I had a lot of mixed ideas when I watched his interviews and stuff in those earlier days. To put it simply, I was ultimately shocked by who I have learned he actually was.Then I saw the HIStory trailer - and I was like - is he for real! How can someone be so beautiful, so perfect (not sexy yet)
His dancing was absolutely my avenue into this lol. At first I just thought he was the coolest person in the world. So fucking smooth, so much swagger, so much charisma. It's so funny, I actually remember feeling somewhat scandalized by all the crotch grabbing (which is hilarious if you know me, because next to nothing scandalizes me). But I think that came from the fact that I was starting to see him sexually and that was what was scandalizing me, more than the actual moves. Now I'm not scandalized at all and it feels totally normal to watch (just like feeling a constant sexual response to him feels normal now lol).! That led to Dangerous concert, not HIStory funny enough. Just see Michael dance on stage with such precision and technique, perfect moves, perfect perfect perfect! I was like this is insane! How did I not know all this! I was already in love with his perfection.
And then Michael in that outfit, showing all kinds of Abs, touching himself all over and dancing so perfectly (and provocatively, lets be real here!). Grabbing his crotch again and again so comfortably on stage. Usually overtly sexy stuff on screen turns me off, but I was hooked. He was already doing something to my brain, he was touching, humping, thrusting but my brain did not find it vulgar!
Then HIStory tour, gold pants
Very glad to know I was not the only one!
Yes, that surely exists. The whole too much bad press, not allowed to like him stuff is way more strong in English speaking world, and especially in US. I don't think tabloid culture is that strong here, even now. But also I specifically was not into pop / celebrity culture at all, so maybe I would not have paid attention even in US.
I like the use of word scandalized. That's the word I was looking for. That and confusion - I should be scandalized and I should be turning this video off, but I cannot look away
. And its all fuzzy now, but I think this ITC moment was when I got first introduced to Mike Jr. (so very early in the concert ), and I was like - wait! why is he not wearing the thing that is suppose to hold it all together for male dancers, it did not even occur to me that even underpants are missing and this could be intentional !
Agree 100%. I actually think this stuff is important. I don't read a lot of the conversations but there is some good stuff on here. Before Michael died, people wrestling with how they feel about getting all het up about him, feeling slightly guilty, wondering are they just objectifying him etc and working through their feelings. Ditto after he died or when TII came out. People leaving the thread because it was too much emotionally but other people staying because it was helping them to cope.
Absolutely. This thread is a lot of fun but it goes way beyond that. I think it carries a lot of significance.
He totally deserves it. People still write about him having countless plastic surgery procedures or about how he ruined his face, etc etc. The negativity and the lies and the distortion and the total disregard for the truth still takes my breath away even after all this time. This little thread might be hidden away on a Michael Jackson fan message board but I still think it's important.
Tbh, I just think the US is a culture that thrives on negativity. Idk what @MacMandy90 thinks of that statement, but it's how I feel. And I should say, I have never lived abroad and as a typical American, have a limited understanding of other cultures in the world. But as you may have picked up on elsewhere, I have a very negative view of American culture. We are obsessed with scandal, negativity, disinformation, and just straight up meanness. It's a very cruel and brash culture, lacking in a lot of the respect and dignity I feel like I see other places (again, I could be wrong about this). Being an adult and looking back on all of this now, it is completely on brand for the US to produce the most brilliant artist and performer imaginable and then use the popularity he EARNED with his talent alone to make money through destroying him.
OH GOD this gif makes me weak. Not just the pants, but his entire body, his face, the thrust is so perfect.I like the use of word scandalized. That's the word I was looking for. That and confusion - I should be scandalized and I should be turning this video off, but I cannot look away
Yeah! just isolated as a gif, if that's all you saw, the face, expression, you would wonder what is going on! Is it porn!
OMG! I need to see it! I don't think I have noticed that one. I think I get too distracted by the suit and hat in smooth criminal. Maybe that moment deserves a gif of its own
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Oh wow! Ok...I have not read that stuff and I don't if I can. I actually avoid any threads and posts from around the time of his death. I love reading the old threads on here, but that is too much for me. I completely understand why people left the forum after that. Not because they stopped loving Michael, but because it hurt too much. That is so understandable to me. I don't know how I would have functioned if I had felt the way I feel now back when he passed. I would lose my mind, probably.
Watching Michael dance in general IS straight up porn and I refuse to hear otherwise lol. But yes, completely agree with you.Yeah! just isolated as a gif, if that's all you saw, the face, expression, you would wonder what is going on! Is it porn!
omfg yes lol. YES. I love watching him rub his body. Like in the panther dance! Omg... Michael. I didn't even watch it just now, just imagined it, and I felt a JOLT THROUGH MY ENTIRE BODY..... and then you see this one -
Girl, watch it now lol. I am also distracted by the suit, hat, and tie (in a really good way) but I noticed it the very first time I saw it. It's amazing lol. I sent it to my sister and her first response was about a hundred eggplant emojis lol.OMG! I need to see it! I don't think I have noticed that one. I think I get too distracted by the suit and hat in smooth criminal. Maybe that moment deserves a gif of its own
I don't read a lot of it, tbh. Don't have time and it's not easy reading. I'm in the archives looking for lovely pictures but I catch bits here and there. I'm always a bit weirded out by comments that were written when he was alive. Not sure why. And stuff around him dying or TII is also hard even though I was around for both and was seeing TII many, many times. I'm glad those conversations are there but I don't necessarily want to immerse myself in them.
This is how most people see it. Before his death or after it, this is just part of appreciating the full awesomeness of Michael.
People are lazy. And a lot of people just love to slag off Michael. It's that simple. Depressing but simple.
Thank you
I'm sorry for going so deep into the sad stuff today. Idk why I'm like this. This is the most joyful thread on the planet! Why bring it down?!
