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Are there still some so called “ hidden gems” left in the vault?

Lotfi11k said:
What song MJ worked with Elliot straite .there is person called Harun he said
(I heard Jungle By my own ears!!! Its complete and reminds me on Tabloid Junkie.
It was in Cologne at a Seminar. Trust me it was a complete Song. 100% release able!)
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Wouldn't it be "Tabloid Jungle" instead? The "Tabloid Junkie" demo.
 
Harun said:
perfect, Why You Wana Trip On Me is also in the Style of Jungle
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mj_frenzy said:
Elliot Straite worked with Michael Jackson on about 5-6 songs, but they focused on only 3 of them (i.e., 'Break Of Dawn', 'A Place With No Name' and 'Blue Gangsta').

Note that if 'Jungle City' was complete and releasable, then the Estate would have released it after Michael Jackson's death.

Instead, they posthumously released 'A Place With No Name' and 'Blue Gangsta', which clearly suggests that 'Jungle City' is a incomplete song in terms of vocals.
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confused I'm someone said it's finished and someone said no
 
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filmandmusic said:
You know tracks that are highly praised by those that heard it or worked on it?
I seem to remember this was the case with “we’ve had enough” and imo that was definitely a hidden gem.
Anything else that gets praised a lot?
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From what I've heard, I can definitely rank the "gems" as followed

  • gem#1: Streetwalker (the outtake, not the boring Bottrell mix on Bad 25)
  • gem#2: Buffalo Bill
  • gem#3: there ain't any other song (I've heard) that I'd categorize as a "gem"
 
Higgins said:
From what I've heard, I can definitely rank the "gems" as followed

  • gem#1: Streetwalker (the outtake, not the boring Bottrell mix on Bad 25)
  • gem#2: Buffalo Bill
  • gem#3: there ain't any other song (I've heard) that I'd categorize as a "gem"
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The Streetwalker outtake/early version you mean did leak in LQ to Youtube or do you mean another one? :)
 
Higgins said:
From what I've heard, I can definitely rank the "gems" as followed

  • gem#1: Streetwalker (the outtake, not the boring Bottrell mix on Bad 25)
  • gem#2: Buffalo Bill
  • gem#3: there ain't any other song (I've heard) that I'd categorize as a "gem"
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So you're saying you have heard Buffalo Bill?
 
I think Man In Black might be a potential gem. I have enjoyed the low quality version that has leaked. I hope someday a better quality version gets a release.
 
Derek1984 said:
So you're saying you have heard Buffalo Bill?
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I have. It's is as infectious as Smooth criminal or streetwalker.
Fuzball said:
Have you heard this one?
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Oh boy, this one has a real shitty quality. I recognize similarities but can't tell for sure if it's exactly the same version I heard.
mind&magic said:
I mean this version:

(The sound reminds me at Don't Be Messin' Round)

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This is its pre-Quincey&Bruce demo.
 
Higgins said:
From what I've heard, I can definitely rank the "gems" as followed

  • gem#1: Streetwalker (the outtake, not the boring Bottrell mix on Bad 25)
  • gem#2: Buffalo Bill
  • gem#3: there ain't any other song (I've heard) that I'd categorize as a "gem"
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And how many unreleased songs do you estimate you've heard complete vocally?
 
I think Bruce Swedien was right when he said there're no more than 1 or 2 outtakes per album.
 
Fuzball said:
Bruce was talking about fully produced and finalized songs.
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This comes down to semantics imo. If you don’t love me, work that body, serious effect, superfly sister, monkey business, someone put your hand out, mind is the magic, what about us (to an extent), slave to the rhythm, For all time are all fully produced songs. Maybe not finalized to the point of MJ standards but still. That is more than just 1-2 outtakes. The same goes for Bad which have even more fully produced songs.
 
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Themidwestcowboy said:
This comes down to semantics imo. If you don’t love me, work that body, serious effect, superfly sister, monkey business, someone put your hand out, mind is the magic, what about us (to an extent), slave to the rhythm, For all time are all fully produced songs. Maybe not finalized to the point of MJ standards but still. That is more than just 1-2 outtakes. The same goes for Bad which have even more fully produced songs.
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I even think a fair share of these were completely finished in MJ’s mind as well. I don’t see how he could perfect SPYHO, Superfly Sister or FAT.

I think generally we had it good as a fanbase. If you count each fully realized track that didn’t make it on a studio album it would be a quite substantial number. With a bit more care and patience the Estate could have made at least 5 “new” albums out of them. But alas us fans are greedy and most of it got leaked and now we’re out of surprises
 
Rolling the Dice, hopefully. I'd love to hear it announced in the next couple weeks.

Hot Street, despite leaking, is definitely still a gem. A quality song that the public is less aware is exactly what a gem qualifies to be, and even if it's not put out on T40, there's still plenty left to do with it.
 
Higgins said:
From what I've heard, I can definitely rank the "gems" as followed

  • gem#1: Streetwalker (the outtake, not the boring Bottrell mix on Bad 25)
  • gem#2: Buffalo Bill
  • gem#3: there ain't any other song (I've heard) that I'd categorize as a "gem"
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How many complete unreleased songs have you heard? Roughly ?
 
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