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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

AlwaysThere said:
From Man in the Music:

Jackson wrote and recorded “Turning Me Off” during the Hayvenhurst sessions in early 1986. He worked on it primarily with John Barnes and Bill Bottrell. “It had some crazy sound combinations,” said Barnes. “It was kind of an Electronica sound—we had three different synthesizers we were using. The synths had enough punch that we left the bass out.” According to Matt Forger, it was “one of Michael’s edgier experiments. Very groove-oriented. It was quite an interesting track.” The song remains unreleased.
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Thanks for the information. Sounds like a very interesting track. I hope MJ recorded his vocals!
 
filmandmusic said:
Sounds like a great anthology album title to me 😎

Wonder what other tracks were recorded during these sessions.
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Well....

Tomboy
Al Capone (both the released version and the unreleased one featuring voice samples from James Brown and Prince)
Free
I'm So Blue
Throwin' Your Life Away (if it was actually started during the Bad sessions)
Dirty Diana
What You Do To Me
Do You Know (Where Your Children Are)
Lovin' You
Buffalo Bill
Make Or Break
Streetwalker (not the 1987 or '88 versions)
Crack Kills
Price Of Fame
Cheater (if it was actually recorded in Hayvenhurst)
Don't Be Messin' Around
Saturday Woman (if it was created during the Bad sessions)
Abortion Papers
 
filmandmusic said:
Of course there was stuff releaseable but don’t forget how many of those songs are already released

(I like) the way you love me
chicago
we’ve had enough
shout
another day
xscape
A place with no name
blue gangsta
one more chance
fall again

I believe most of these largely completed songs were recorded post history pre Invincible
And now it seems can’t get your weight off of me is one of the very final pieces left.
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... you can also add from that era:

- Beautiful Girl
- Seeing Voices
- All In Your Name
- Hollywood Tonight

That's a whole new album of songs stemming from the Invincible era.
All of them officially released, only "Seeing Voices" leaked.

Including the 16 invincible album songs, that's 30 songs.

Off topic:
In hindsight it would have been better to take those 30 songs. re-shuffle & re-sequence them. And release them on three different albums, each consisting of 8-10 tracks and at a traditional LP length.

But that's a whole other topic.
Everybody is always harping on how great the OTW, Thriller & Bad albums are.
But dare I say: It's easier to make a perfect album of 9 songs, then making an equally flawless album consisting of 16 songs.
If you take Destiny & Thriller & compare it to Invincible, Invincible is already two albums in one.
 
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AdeZ said:
Which '88 version of Streetwalker are you referring to?
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That one that was released is actually a mix Bill Botrell did in 1988. The 1987 Quincy version features a western-type whistle at the beginning.
 
Lotfi11k said:
What about call it off and men in black .Michael McKiller . Turning me off
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Lotfi11k said:
What you think about alright now and your the one
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'Men in Black' is a complete and releasable song (with Michael Jackson's vocals on it).

Author Adrian Grant heard the song, and he particularly praised his vocals on the song.

Michael Jackson co-wrote 'Alright Now' for his 'Dangerous' album, but it is not known if he (vocally) recorded it.

There is also misinformation spread by @dethorro and @AlwaysThere, such as their false claim that Michael Jackson recorded vocals on a song (called 'Remember What I Told You') on June 19th, 2009.

Michael Jackson was in no position at all to function on a basic level on that day, let alone record vocals on a song.

Show director Kenny Ortega testified that on June 19th (2009) he sent the singer home because of his very bad mental and physical health.

"It was scary…I couldn't put my finger on it…Michael, is this the best place for you to be or do you want to go home and be with your family?" (Kenny Ortega)

Michael Jackson did absolutely nothing on that day, other than exhibiting a very strange behaviour which alarmed people close to him.
 
mj_frenzy said:
There is also misinformation spread by @dethorro and @AlwaysThere, such as their false claim that Michael Jackson recorded vocals on a song (called 'Remember What I Told You') on June 19th, 2009.

Michael Jackson was in no position at all to function on a basic level on that day, let alone record vocals on a song.
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Trying to play the Uno reverse card, I see. As usual, you're doing what you do best, taking information out of context and misrepresenting it. If you would have actually gone to the original thread and read everything myself and @AlwaysThere wrote, you would have seen the following:
AlwaysThere said:
"Remember What I Told You" was apparently recorded in a sound truck parked outside the Staples Center, at some point during between rehearsals. I'd absolutely LOVE to listen to it. There were some songs tracked at the Carolwood residence though -- to my understanding, "Water" (the real one, not the Cascio one) was done there.
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dethorro said:
The thing is that June 19th was one of the worst rehearsal days according to Kenny Ortega (btw they were still rehearsing at The Forum on that day), so it's interesting to know that he also recorded a song on this day.
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AlwaysThere said:
In fairness, the person I spoke to seemed uncertain about that date in particular. It was definitely in June, so perhaps it was earlier and/or later. But definitely June!
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As you can see, I was very well aware that June 19, 2009 was a very hard day for Michael and had my doubts that he would have recorded vocals on that day.

mj_frenzy said:
Michael Jackson did absolutely nothing on that day, other than exhibiting a very strange behaviour which alarmed people close to him.
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Incorrect! He did try on many of the outfits Zaldy had made for him, on that day.
 
they didn't even bother to replace the Cascio songs.
glad they were removed, but give us legit songs at least?
 
So
mj_frenzy said:
'Men in Black' is a complete and releasable song (with Michael Jackson's vocals on it).

Author Adrian Grant heard the song, and he particularly praised his vocals on the song.

Michael Jackson co-wrote 'Alright Now' for his 'Dangerous' album, but it is not known if he (vocally) recorded it.

There is also misinformation spread by @dethorro and @AlwaysThere, such as their false claim that Michael Jackson recorded vocals on a song (called 'Remember What I Told You') on June 19th, 2009.

Michael Jackson was in no position at all to function on a basic level on that day, let alone record vocals on a song.

Show director Kenny Ortega testified that on June 19th (2009) he sent the singer home because of his very bad mental and physical health.

"It was scary…I couldn't put my finger on it…Michael, is this the best place for you to be or do you want to go home and be with your family?" (Kenny Ortega)

Michael Jackson did absolutely nothing on that day, other than exhibiting a very strange behaviour which alarmed people close to him.
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So men in black that exist in YouTube not finished .what about tomboy . .Neverland landing and make a wish .make or break .turning me off and .crack kills .what joe Vogel said
 
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I'll pitch in I have this song, its a very

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584224280178745344

rough demo instrumentally, Babyface sings all the verses of the song, MJ and Babyface should both be singing the hook and chorus there's are a lot of layers of vocals on the harmonies.




What that mean guys I'm not perfect in english did MJ sing or no this song
 
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dethorro said:
Incorrect! He did try on many of the outfits Zaldy had made for him, on that day.
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Michael Jackson was not even able to eat by himself on that day, let alone try on many of the outfits Zaldy had made for him.

Besides, people (who were there) stated that the singer could not even choose which of these outfits should wear, so bad was his mental state of mind.

Note also that American choreographer Travis Payne described the singer as cold, exhausted and paranoid on that day.
Lotfi11k said:
So men in black that exist in YouTube not finished .what about tomboy . .Neverland landing and make a wish .make or break .turning me off and .crack kills .what joe Vogel said
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It has officially been confirmed that 'Men in Black' is a complete song (vocally, musically).

The case of 'Make A Wish' is very interesting because Michael Jackson himself (during the Mexico deposition in November, 1993) could not recall if he had written it or not.

But according to other sources, Michael Jackson wrote 'Make A Wish' (with the help of the American composer Buz Kohan), so the song exists, at least melodically and lyrically.

Frank Cascio strongly implied in his book that 'Turning Me Off' exists (with Michael Jackson's vocals on it).

It is also said that 'Turning Me Off' was a leftover (i.e., outtake) from the 'BAD' album, which the singer later reconsider including it on his subsequent 'Dangerous' album.
 
mj_frenzy said:
Michael Jackson was not even able to eat by himself on that day, let alone try on many of the outfits Zaldy had made for him.

Besides, people (who were there) stated that the singer could not even choose which of these outfits should wear, so bad was his mental state of mind.

Note also that American choreographer Travis Payne described the singer as cold, exhausted and paranoid on that day.

It has officially been confirmed that 'Men in Black' is a complete song (vocally, musically).

The case of 'Make A Wish' is very interesting because Michael Jackson himself (during the Mexico deposition in November, 1993) could not recall if he had written it or not.

But according to other sources, Michael Jackson wrote 'Make A Wish' (with the help of the American composer Buz Kohan), so the song exists, at least melodically and lyrically.

Frank Cascio strongly implied in his book that 'Turning Me Off' exists (with Michael Jackson's vocals on it).

It is also said that 'Turning Me Off' was a leftover (i.e., outtake) from the 'BAD' album, which the singer later reconsider including it on his subsequent 'Dangerous' album.
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There is song called make or break what's your opinion .what about angel .do you want me . wiling and waiting ?
 
According to MJBeats, the songs recently registered with ASCAP are:

Kreeton Overture
Be Me 4 A Day
Man In Black
Descending Angels
Endt It
I Have This Dream
Promise
Remember This Night
Seven Digits
Shut Up And Dance
Slipped Away
Stay
Verdict
You’re The One.
 
Lotfi11k said:
According to MJBeats, the songs recently registered with ASCAP are:

Kreeton Overture
Be Me 4 A Day
Man In Black
Descending Angels
Endt It
I Have This Dream
Promise
Remember This Night
Seven Digits
Shut Up And Dance
Slipped Away
Stay
Verdict
You’re The One.
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These are registered since ages
 
mj_frenzy said:
Michael Jackson was not even able to eat by himself on that day, let alone try on many of the outfits Zaldy had made for him.

Besides, people (who were there) stated that the singer could not even choose which of these outfits should wear, so bad was his mental state of mind.

Note also that American choreographer Travis Payne described the singer as cold, exhausted and paranoid on that day.

It has officially been confirmed that 'Men in Black' is a complete song (vocally, musically).

The case of 'Make A Wish' is very interesting because Michael Jackson himself (during the Mexico deposition in November, 1993) could not recall if he had written it or not.

But according to other sources, Michael Jackson wrote 'Make A Wish' (with the help of the American composer Buz Kohan), so the song exists, at least melodically and lyrically.

Frank Cascio strongly implied in his book that 'Turning Me Off' exists (with Michael Jackson's vocals on it).

It is also said that 'Turning Me Off' was a leftover (i.e., outtake) from the 'BAD' album, which the singer later reconsider including it on his subsequent 'Dangerous' album.
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According to MJBeats, the songs recently registered with ASCAP are:

Kreeton Overture
Be Me 4 A Day
Man In Black
Descending Angels
Endt It
I Have This Dream
Promise
Remember This Night
Seven Digits
Shut Up And Dance
Slipped Away
Stay
Verdict
You’re The One.

What u think about those
 
Lotfi11k said:
According to MJBeats, the songs recently registered with ASCAP are:

Kreeton Overture
Be Me 4 A Day
Man In Black
Descending Angels
Endt It
I Have This Dream
Promise
Remember This Night
Seven Digits
Shut Up And Dance
Slipped Away
Stay
Verdict
You’re The One.
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It doesn't mean anything, the Estate re-registers songs often.
 
mj_frenzy said:
Michael Jackson was not even able to eat by himself on that day, let alone try on many of the outfits Zaldy had made for him.

Besides, people (who were there) stated that the singer could not even choose which of these outfits should wear, so bad was his mental state of mind.

Note also that American choreographer Travis Payne described the singer as cold, exhausted and paranoid on that day.
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He did do a costume fitting on that day. Karen Faye and Alif Sankey have confirmed it. We have pictures from that day. How much evidence do you need? It's so funny how you can't ever accept that you are wrong. Never.

It is besides the point if he tried on one or ten outfits, your statement that he "did absolutely nothing on that day, other than exhibiting a very strange behaviour which alarmed people close to him" is still wrong, no matter how you look at it.
 
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