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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

NetflexKingGR said:
I refuse to believe that "Adore You" has no vocals. You can't put a song that has never been recorded as an example of "The greatest songs you composed".
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Or it means that the song is really that good and had so much potential. Too bad we're never going to hear it unless the seminar recording gets leaked one day.
 
NetflexKingGR said:
I just want to point out that BB put "Adore You" in the same category of greatness with Beautiful Girl, Stranger In Moscow, In The Back and Days in Gloucestershire. I refuse to believe that "Adore You" has no vocals. You can't put a song that has never been recorded as an example of "The greatest songs you composed".
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It doesn’t. There’s a full choir, but no vocals.
 
I know this song has been talked about for ages but it still haunts me, so:

Bufffalo Bill

1. Has anyone ever heard it?
2. If so: Was it really that good?
3. If yes: Why wasn't it on any of his albums?
4. Do you think it transformed into another song later? (since a lot of demo's did)
5. If so: could it be 'Al Capone' (since it's also about a mythical figure and kinda matches the verses)
6. If not: was it transformed into another (released) song, or were parts of it used later on?
 
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Victorious said:
I know this song has been talked about for ages but it still haunts me, so:

Bufffalo Bill

1. Has anyone ever heard it?
2. If so: Was it really that good?
3. If yes: Why wasn't it on any of his albums?
4. Do you think it transformed into another song later? (since a lot of demo's did)
5. If so: could it be 'Al Capone' (since it's also about a mythical figure and kinda matches the verses)
6. If not: was it transformed into another (released) song, or were parts of it used later on?
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Buffalo bill did not have relation with Al Capone .
 
Victorious said:
I know this song has been talked about for ages but it still haunts me, so:

Bufffalo Bill

1. Has anyone ever heard it?
2. If so: Was it really that good?
3. If yes: Why wasn't it on any of his albums?
4. Do you think it transformed into another song later? (since a lot of demo's did)
5. If so: could it be 'Al Capone' (since it's also about a mythical figure and kinda matches the verses)
6. If not: was it transformed into another (released) song, or were parts of it used later on?
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1. It's never leaked.

The track was the first MJ and John Barnes worked on at Soundcastle. It's a dance track with a classical/symphonic intro and tempo in the "R&B speed". Lyrics concern William Cody - a notable figure of the American Wild West.

Michael cited the track in the "Unauthorized Interview" (1983). Per MJ: "It's about Will Cody - the cowboy - and how he died. And I'm real excited about it. I hate to say - I know it's going to be a hit. I feel strong about it."

2. Michael was convinced it was (at least at the time).

3. Could be for a variety of reasons. Michael was constantly writing and being presented with new material. It's likely that as he neared the Bad sessions, stronger songs entered the forefront.

4-6. Can't be sure, as I haven't heard the track. Michael was known to recycle certain elements of songs ("Streetwalker" bassline used for "Dangerous") or revise older material for his projects. To my knowledge, "Buffalo Bill" never resurfaced after Victory.
 
"Sex Life" (1981) Produced by Steve Porcaro in Susland, CA. Failed to make Thriller Album. According to Brad Buxer the song was Up-Tempo very similar to Buffalo Bill which was released the same year. Michael revisited the song during Invincible but failed due to it's old-fashioned style. The Title is written among other titles in unreleased TBW list in MJ's bedroom. Other titles are "Behind The Mask" , "Angel" , "Who Do You Love" , "Who Do you Know", "Mamacita". Please buy Tickets for "ONE" show in Las Vegas."

-John Branca , CEO of MJEstate
 
NetflexKingGR said:
"Sex Life" (1981) Produced by Steve Porcaro in Susland, CA. Failed to make Thriller Album. According to Brad Buxer the song was Up-Tempo very similar to Buffalo Bill which was released the same year. Michael revisited the song during Invincible but failed due to it's old-fashioned style. The Title is written among other titles in unreleased TBW list in MJ's bedroom. Other titles are "Behind The Mask" , "Angel" , "Who Do You Love" , "Who Do you Know", "Mamacita". Please buy Tickets for "ONE" show in Las Vegas."

-John Branca , CEO of MJEstate
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Do u think motherfucker I'm joking with you
 
Lotfi11k said:
Do u think motherfucker I'm joking with you
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Anyone can write anything on a cassette and show it off/sell it. Just like people make bogus Wiki entries. Doesn't mean it's legit.

Funny how this is almost identical to one of the leaked tape scans dated "6-8-88". Same handwriting, same color marker, same scuffs on the tape, etc.

Why be disrespectful to other members ?
 
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FlyAway0086 said:
Anyone can write anything on a cassette and show it off/sell it. Just like people make bogus Wiki entries. Doesn't mean it's legit.

Funny how this is almost identical to one of the leaked tape scans dated "6-8-88". Same handwriting, same color marker, same scuffs on the tape, etc.

Why be disrespectful to other members ?
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They disrespect me and make me joke i thought it's real photo . They are not kind like you at all always laugh at .me and they try to make me joke
 
NetflexKingGR said:
"Sex Life" (1981) Produced by Steve Porcaro in Susland, CA. Failed to make Thriller Album. According to Brad Buxer the song was Up-Tempo very similar to Buffalo Bill which was released the same year. Michael revisited the song during Invincible but failed due to it's old-fashioned style. The Title is written among other titles in unreleased TBW list in MJ's bedroom. Other titles are "Behind The Mask" , "Angel" , "Who Do You Love" , "Who Do you Know", "Mamacita". Please buy Tickets for "ONE" show in Las Vegas."

-John Branca , CEO of MJEstate
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....few snippets circulating online.
 
I have a theory

So you know how theres confusion how Al Capone and the demo of Smooth Criminal were recorded either after or before each other? Well I have a theory

What if Michael recorded both in the same session (doubt it, but its possible) and it was to choose which direction for tone to go in. He chose Smooth Criminal of course, but it somewhat makes sense, the only thing that doesn't help this case is that Al Capone sounds more complete than the Smooth Criminal demo, it could also be because he wasn't finished with Smooth Criminal.
 
FlyAway0086 said:
1. It's never leaked.

The track was the first MJ and John Barnes worked on at Soundcastle. It's a dance track with a classical/symphonic intro and tempo in the "R&B speed". Lyrics concern William Cody - a notable figure of the American Wild West.

Michael cited the track in the "Unauthorized Interview" (1983). Per MJ: "It's about Will Cody - the cowboy - and how he died. And I'm real excited about it. I hate to say - I know it's going to be a hit. I feel strong about it."

2. Michael was convinced it was (at least at the time).

3. Could be for a variety of reasons. Michael was constantly writing and being presented with new material. It's likely that as he neared the Bad sessions, stronger songs entered the forefront.

4-6. Can't be sure, as I haven't heard the track. Michael was known to recycle certain elements of songs ("Streetwalker" bassline used for "Dangerous") or revise older material for his projects. To my knowledge, "Buffalo Bill" never resurfaced after Victory.
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Thank you!
 
Victorious said:
I know this song has been talked about for ages but it still haunts me, so:

Bufffalo Bill

1. Has anyone ever heard it?
2. If so: Was it really that good?
3. If yes: Why wasn't it on any of his albums?
4. Do you think it transformed into another song later? (since a lot of demo's did)
5. If so: could it be 'Al Capone' (since it's also about a mythical figure and kinda matches the verses)
6. If not: was it transformed into another (released) song, or were parts of it used later on?
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1. Yes. I have it on cassette tape and Sega Genesis cartridge.

2. It's alright, it's no Casio track.

3. Mj_frenzy told him not to release it.

4. It's the demo for Behind the Mask.

5. It's actually about Bill. Not any particular Bill, just any and all Bills. Maybe Bill Nye.

6. Behind the Mask was the demo for this song.
 
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FlyAway0086 said:
1. It's never leaked.

The track was the first MJ and John Barnes worked on at Soundcastle. It's a dance track with a classical/symphonic intro and tempo in the "R&B speed". Lyrics concern William Cody - a notable figure of the American Wild West.

Michael cited the track in the "Unauthorized Interview" (1983). Per MJ: "It's about Will Cody - the cowboy - and how he died. And I'm real excited about it. I hate to say - I know it's going to be a hit. I feel strong about it."

2. Michael was convinced it was (at least at the time).

3. Could be for a variety of reasons. Michael was constantly writing and being presented with new material. It's likely that as he neared the Bad sessions, stronger songs entered the forefront.

4-6. Can't be sure, as I haven't heard the track. Michael was known to recycle certain elements of songs ("Streetwalker" bassline used for "Dangerous") or revise older material for his projects. To my knowledge, "Buffalo Bill" never resurfaced after Victory.
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Good information.

I'll also add that in Rolling Stone in 1984, just prior to the Victory tour and album, Frank Dileo mentioned the song and how it was a dance tune and going to be the next big hit.
 
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