Good information.
But nobody ever heard it on a seminar or something..?
They don't have it. Only the Estate.
I think Joe Vogel heard it
Don't take Al Capone being the "demo" of Smooth Criminal so literally. It's not honestly nuanced enough.
You can actually hear a second of Al Capone before the smooth criminal demo so they’re connected somehow
I made a little summary of this song "Buffalo Bill". Several things have already been said. I've put together interviews with John Barnes, Bill Botrell, Matt Forger, Frank Dileo and MJ on video himself. Which is extremely rare on his part. The video, which dates from 1983.
In the video, MJ clarifies that he was working on the future album, Victory, and that he wrote several songs, including one of them is called "Buffalo Bill". The song is about William Cody, a cowboy who just died. Rare thing about MJ is that he is very enthusiastic about the song and says it will be a hit. He then evokes the song "Liberian Girl", which was kept for the album Bad and which had the success that we know.
"Buffalo Bill" is the first collaboration with John Barnes. On Facebook, he says the song is great but not quite finished. And he would like to finish the demo. The song was subsequently considered for the album Bad.
In John Barnes' MJCast video above, he indicates that Michael came up with the idea for the song. It begins with an orchestral start, then turns into an R&B dance song. They did most of the work on the same day, 6 hours in the studio. John Barnes also mentions that some of these songs were better than what made the album. Concerning "Liberian Girl", the song was already ready for Victory except for the intro which was added by Quincy.
Bill Botrell answered a question about the demo on gearspace in 2009. He remembers the demo which had a strong John Barnes influence and a cool chorus: "Who Shot Buffalo Bill? They said he shot alot did he ever get killed?” In 1984 Frank Dileo mentioned the song in a Rolling Stones interview. He had heard MJ's latest uptempo dance composition.
In Joe Vogel's book it is stated that Matt Forger described it as an amazing song that was never finalized. "It went through such contortions and changes and green writes and variations" There is a photo of MJ posing in front of William Cody's grave.
Victory was basically this close to being Thriller 2.0. And maybe even better than Bad, though I won't bank on that. But there was definitely some amazing material in that pipeline.I made a little summary of this song "Buffalo Bill". Several things have already been said. I've put together interviews with John Barnes, Bill Botrell, Matt Forger, Frank Dileo and MJ on video himself. Which is extremely rare on his part. The video, which dates from 1983.
In the video, MJ clarifies that he was working on the future album, Victory, and that he wrote several songs, including one of them is called "Buffalo Bill". The song is about William Cody, a cowboy who just died. Rare thing about MJ is that he is very enthusiastic about the song and says it will be a hit. He then evokes the song "Liberian Girl", which was kept for the album Bad and which had the success that we know.
"Buffalo Bill" is the first collaboration with John Barnes. On Facebook, he says the song is great but not quite finished. And he would like to finish the demo. The song was subsequently considered for the album Bad.
In John Barnes' MJCast video above, he indicates that Michael came up with the idea for the song. It begins with an orchestral start, then turns into an R&B dance song. They did most of the work on the same day, 6 hours in the studio. John Barnes also mentions that some of these songs were better than what made the album. Concerning "Liberian Girl", the song was already ready for Victory except for the intro which was added by Quincy.
Bill Botrell answered a question about the demo on gearspace in 2009. He remembers the demo which had a strong John Barnes influence and a cool chorus: "Who Shot Buffalo Bill? They said he shot alot did he ever get killed?” In 1984 Frank Dileo mentioned the song in a Rolling Stones interview. He had heard MJ's latest uptempo dance composition.
In Joe Vogel's book it is stated that Matt Forger described it as an amazing song that was never finalized. "It went through such contortions and changes and green writes and variations" There is a photo of MJ posing in front of William Cody's grave.
It takes committing a real life crime to be banned here.
Who told u that no
Most likely not but this can give you an idea of how a complete version would be likeI was just listening to the "People of the world" demo and was reminded of how beautiful this track is. Other than the J-Friends version, is there a more vocally complete MJ version? I do love the 'da da da, dee dee dee' though
I was just listening to the "People of the world" demo and was reminded of how beautiful this track is. Other than the J-Friends version, is there a more vocally complete MJ version? I do love the 'da da da, dee dee dee' though
So Brad Buxer mentioned those (and In The Back, Beautiful Girl) as his favourites in the interview (iirc), but does that mean there are finished versions of DIG, IAMTL and ITB?
Only I Am A Loser has a finished version and even then the only change is that MJ says "I Was The Loser" on the chorus, the rest is unfinished.
Yes, I heard a version of this on 'TheMJCast" but it was mixed with Michaels vocal. It was stunning!
HEAL THE WOOORLD, MAKE IT A BETTERR PLAACE
It's probably on the 1989 album. We've figured that out by now.
I kinda understand what you were saying now. The Rough Mix of Streetwalker has the same feeling to me; it may be a placeholder for a real hook.
See, I feel the opposite. I never cared for Streetwalker; it’s okay but it absolutely doesn’t deserve a spot on Bad. But I absolutely adore the demo mix—the higher key, the slightly funkier arrangement, and the alternate chorus elevate it to another plane for me.
I do like how much funkier it is. I think the version those buffoons couldn't actually leak is the best version lol.
