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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

AlwaysThere said:
The one posted above your comment was a fan site. There was a list posted on the former official Darkchild website, but I don’t recall offhand what titles matched between the two (though it’s worth noting that none of them included GYWOOM, which makes me question their legitimacy).
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Another reason to believe why it might be fake is because neither Fred or Rodney remembered working on Chicago 1945.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Another reason to believe why it might be fake is because neither Fred or Rodney remembered working on Chicago 1945.
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Check under "appearances and discography" unreleased:::
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Fuzball said:
Two possibilities come to mind. Either the author of the article misremembered the song title or there's a totally different song called PG with no connection to LG at all.
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Listening sessions are usually done months in advance and Pyramid Girl could exist….Michael could’ve went back and revised it
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Pretty sure pyramid girl is just something fans made up
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SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah, I don't think it's been mentioned anywhere other than this article, so I do not think it's a legitimate title.
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It is not just this news article (posted by @Fuzball) about 'Pyramid Girl' actually being the 'Liberian Girl' song.

'Pyramid Girl' was the working title of 'Liberian Girl', as confirmed also by several other sources.

For example:

"…'Liberian Girl' came out of the woodwork in 1986, under the working title 'Pyramid Girl'…" ('Michael Jackson: All The Songs: The Story Behind Every Track' book by François Allard and Richard Lecocq)

Even Adrian Grant confirms it in the March 1987 news section of his book:

"…The ['BAD'] album is said to include tracks titled 'Bad' and 'Pyramid Girl', later confirmed to be 'Liberian Girl'…" ('Michael Jackson: The Visual Documentary' book)

Or, the 'For The Record' book (by Craig Halstead and Chris Cadman), which again confirms that.
 
mj_frenzy said:
It is not just this news article (posted by @Fuzball) about 'Pyramid Girl' actually being the 'Liberian Girl' song.

'Pyramid Girl' was the working title of 'Liberian Girl', as confirmed also by several other sources.

For example:

"…'Liberian Girl' came out of the woodwork in 1986, under the working title 'Pyramid Girl'…" ('Michael Jackson: All The Songs: The Story Behind Every Track' book by François Allard and Richard Lecocq)

Even Adrian Grant confirms it in the March 1987 news section of his book:

"…The ['BAD'] album is said to include tracks titled 'Bad' and 'Pyramid Girl', later confirmed to be 'Liberian Girl'…" ('Michael Jackson: The Visual Documentary' book)

Or, the 'For The Record' book (by Craig Halstead and Chris Cadman), which again confirms that.
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The For The Record book is fairly dated, at this point.

Not to mention that "Liberian Girl" was cited by MJ as early as 1983. Wouldn't make much sense for him to revert back to this "working title" in 1986.
 
BlackAnon said:
There were 2 albums that were supposed to be released in 1983......one of them was another Michael turned in no later than April and the Victory album but Victory was pushed back to 1984
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This is news to me!

I know Mike was planning on his follow up to Thriller before Victory but I didn't realise an album was scheduled..thank God Thriller was an astronomical success.

I'm so glad Mike waited and crafted a phenomenal follow up to Thriller, rather than copping out and releasing a concept album
 
Did MJ work on songs with Kanye West ?
On Thriller 25, the remix are made by Akon and will.i.am, and MJ work with them on new songs. But with Kanye West ?
 
FlyAway0086 said:
In The Valley is a real title from the Mexico Deposition.

And I assume you meant Tyrese ? No correlation, as far as I'm aware. All that is publicly known is the title.
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Yes tyrese they said 2000 watts discovered during working on song in the valley
 
threepea11 said:
honestly, why are there so many known unreleased songs from every era except Off the Wall? there are some but not as many
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I've been thinking about this since the Estate gave the background of Sunset Driver, we got NO outtakes from that era and it's odd (WALTG is from before OTW and Be Not Always wasn't recorded during OTW). We got outtakes from every era including from after Invincible's release but nothing from OTW. I'm sure that the songs might not be anything special but I'm still interested in hearing them, especially Going To Rio and the demo of Little Susie.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I've been thinking about this since the Estate gave the background of Sunset Driver, we got NO outtakes from that era and it's odd (WALTG is from before OTW and Be Not Always wasn't recorded during OTW). We got outtakes from every era including from after Invincible's release but nothing from OTW. I'm sure that the songs might not be anything special but I'm still interested in hearing them, especially Going To Rio and the demo of Little Susie.
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Going to Rio have Brazil style
 
ChanceToDance said:
I've been thinking about this since the Estate gave the background of Sunset Driver, we got NO outtakes from that era and it's odd (WALTG is from before OTW and Be Not Always wasn't recorded during OTW). We got outtakes from every era including from after Invincible's release but nothing from OTW. I'm sure that the songs might not be anything special but I'm still interested in hearing them, especially Going To Rio and the demo of Little Susie.
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Written and recorded in 1976.

Recognized at the trial of Mexico 93.

The Brazilian singer Tom Jobin, who worked with Quincy Jones acknowledged having listened to the demo and said he had arrangements of Brazilian music.

In 2016, Carole says she doesn't know anything about the song.
 
threepea11 said:
honestly, why are there so many known unreleased songs from every era except Off the Wall? there are some but not as many
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Probably due to him being busy with touring with his brothers as well as filming The Wiz; yet he had still managed to write (and most likely also demoed) a dozen songs.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
This is news to me!

I know Mike was planning on his follow up to Thriller before Victory but I didn't realise an album was scheduled..thank God Thriller was an astronomical success.

I'm so glad Mike waited and crafted a phenomenal follow up to Thriller, rather than copping out and releasing a concept album
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Thriller started taking off in 1983 after the Motown 25 performance and once the Thriller short film released, it began to sell almost 1 million albums a week at one point. If Thriller didn't become the monster that it was, Michael definitely would've turned in another album in 83 and that would've most likely been the concept album he was excited for.
 
Fuzball said:
Probably due to him being busy with touring with his brothers as well as filming The Wiz; yet he had still managed to write (and most likely also demoed) a dozen songs.
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According to Janet, he recorded a handful of demos before he left to film The Wiz but I doubt they were in competition for inclusion on Off the Wall
 
Lotfi11k said:
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Michael Jackson's Bahrain Lost Songs - Rock NYC

Something tells me these Michael Jackson's Bahrain lost songs are the best thing that could have happened to the king of pop’s legacy.
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Did Michael recorded light the way and he who make the sky grey ?
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“Light the Way” — No MJ vocals. Ballad. Horn section intro, full choir singing the choruses. Lyrics include, “Light the way, let’s pray for peace.”

“He Who Makes the Sky Gray” — Vocals exist, but their extent/completion is unknown.

I took this information from AlwaysThere's recap of everything that Damien Shields has said about unreleased tracks.
 
Lotfi11k said:
Thank you very much what about i have this dream it's also from bahrin session
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“I Have This Dream” (2005) — All-star version fully finished. Ciara, Snoop Dogg, James Ingram, Jermaine, Shirley Caesar, and the O’Jays contribute vocals. R. Kelly is also featured, but MJ allegedly wanted him removed. Leaked demo on YouTube is authentic, though the vocalists are unknown. MJ demo vocals exist, but were to be re-recorded at some point.
 
BlackAnon said:
Thriller started taking off in 1983 after the Motown 25 performance and once the Thriller short film released, it began to sell almost 1 million albums a week at one point. If Thriller didn't become the monster that it was, Michael definitely would've turned in another album in 83 and that would've most likely been the concept album he was excited for.
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I'm so glad Mike never did a concept album. The best thing about his discography is, it's almost, if not immaculate.

The nearest he ever got to a concept album was perhaps the 5 songs on Blood or the HIStory album, but I think they're too strong and not experimental enough to be considered concept

The period between making the Bad album demo's (85-87) and the Dangerous era (89-91) is so fascinating to me, MJ seemed so focused
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'm so glad Mike never did a concept album. The best thing about his discography is, it's almost, if not immaculate.

The nearest he ever got to a concept album was perhaps the 5 songs on Blood or the HIStory album, but I think they're too strong and not experimental enough to be considered concept

The period between making the Bad album demo's (85-87) and the Dangerous era (89-91) is so fascinating to me, MJ seemed so focused
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I do think 'History' would be stronger with only protest songs or songs that explained him as a person, so in that sense a concept album would be great imo.

Maybe BOTDF could work as a Latin style music/visual concept EP. Something like 'Rock My World', 'Whatever Happens', 'Blue Gangsta' and 'Blood On The Dancefloor' (although chronically impossible)
 
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