I remember it more clearly now. He could still be the high profile producer the article was talking about since everything Brody said applies there. Clearly there's more that the Estate was hiding up the sleeve.
It would have pleased the fans maybe.
Interesting stuff. I’ve said before that Silk Sonic should produce unreleased tracks. This guy could be a good choice.I only watched the first few seconds and don't know at what point in the video they talk about his work on an unreleased MJ song. Maybe someone of you has time to find the information
Maybe it would have pleased MJ depending on what era the songs are from. I'm thinking that a considerable number of the songs come from the 80's anyways since that's when a lot of the releasable outtakes comes from. It'd also be weird to pick a song from the 2000's and turn it into an 80's style song lol.
Not a name I would have picked, but it's such a good choice. Silk Sonic and his work with Bruno Mars is fantastic. I'd love to know what songs he was asked to rework.I only watched the first few seconds and don't know at what point in the video they talk about his work on an unreleased MJ song. Maybe someone of you has time to find the information
I'm not gonna say what would have pleased MJ. I know he just enjoyed music, he was a fan of all sounds. The 80s wasn't a "style", it was just the way things were really. It's like saying the Neptune's sound was the 2000s, or Dallas Austin or Nirvana was the 90s. Idk what a song like Billie Jean would sound in the 90s or 2000s but I think it's too powerful to not shine no matter what the genre/influence is. So it could easily be made to shine in the modern fashion. The Teddy Riley remake of Dangerous will always shine through in my mind, a great upgrade. Too bad he never did go back to a straight 70s/80s outtake for Invincible. Guess the closest things are Best of Joy and Cheater.
While I would've wanted to hear way more music by now, and wish it had processed. Part of the hype behind MJ is the wait between albums. 4 years after Xscape would've been pretty soon. Especially since that was 4 years after Michael. Not to mention the Anniversary stuff/duets in between.
You know what I mean though, Brody wanted the songs to be as natural as possible and it's really hard to imagine a song of MJ's outside of the 80's to be remixed into a song from that time period. Just check the 80's fan-made recreations on YT, most if not all of them sound out of place, except for the remixes that are from songs from the 80's in fact. Even 80's songs remixed into other eras sound extremely out of place and just not natural at all.
4-5 years is a long wait already and that's how it was for most MJ albums. Thriller came out 3 years after OTW, Bad came out 5 years after Thriller and Dangerous came out 4 years after Bad and so on. The only exception to that was with BOTDF and Invincible and even then waiting over 8 years for new content is way too long and not right at all.
It's a vocal demo of Beat It. Before MJ recorded it in his home studio, he dictated it to tape. That was how he did it with most of not all of his songs. Check The Girl Is Mine Vocal Demo being played in the 1993 Deposition for his songwriting.
I mean, going back to disco or pop/R&B is basically what we're talking about. Throwbacks like that happen all the time. LNFSG wasn't a disco tune but yet, it worked. It was pretty barebones though.
I don't rate many fan mixes that highly anyway tbh, so idk, you kinda lost me. But:
It was never this long, but for the Invincible follow up it would've been. My point is, we never got MJ material annually. It did need to slow down at least a little.
I definitely didn’t think of that he probably multitracked the vocal demo and then created the music around it with Wolfer
There definitely is a proper demo of “Beat It.” Matt Forger spoke about it in his “6 Songs 6 Stories” video with Brad Sundberg. Apparently some of the synths were also taken directly from the demo by Quincy for the finished track, so you’d have to think it’s decently developed.
Do you guys think the estate edits the demos they release?
Of course they edit them, although not like that, most of the times the most they do is cut them, or fade them out.
I feel like they might edit the instrumentation so they don’t have to credit the session musicians. (Ex: Who Do You Know has a weird sample from Stranger In Moscow). Also there is an completely different mix of the WBSS demo that exists
This is one of the crazier and most unrealistic claims from recent years lol. It isn’t unprecedented for MJ to reuse sounds, drums, or even melodies in his music, especially from songs that were never released. Occam’s razor and all.
To some extent, definitely. Some of the Bad 25 demos were newly mixed, and Damien Shields said that the released version of “The Toy” was 20ish seconds shorter than the one he heard.
Why didn't they remix the songs in a style according to the era? So 'Behind The Mask' sounds cool (but too late 80s) and LNFSG is also nice with a disco beat (although it's a post-Thriller outtake) but not demo is finished sounding like a song from their era..(?)
It’s a similar sound, but not a sample. And even if it was, it would be the other way around.
Probably because they didn't want to?
Yes. I think they definitely made edits to Who Do You Know. That guitar doesn't sound like 1980/81, IMO.
No. When it comes to anniversary releases (e.g. Thriller 40 or Bad 25), I think they rip the demos off a cassette and put them on the CD.
THANKS. He doesn't say anything more about MJ? FYI, I asked Damien Shields to find out if he had more information!
No clue, I didn't watch the entire thing hahaha.
Yes thanks to the AI Vocals is really scared me how robot are becoming more stronger then humans
