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Let's end the confusion about MJ's unreleased tracks here

I wonder about the song "Boots Groove". I know it was played during Brad Sundberg's seminars.

Do you have information about this song? Does she have MJ's voice?
 
Yeah I don't think that has leaked. At least I don't remember it being discussed here at all and it would have been if it had.
 
AdeZ said:
It should have vocals. I don't think any snippets of this ever leaked.
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The only info I have read about Boots Groove is this:

“Boots Groove” was an unreleased demo that Brad shared with the group. “It really sounded similar to ‘Get On The Floor’,” commented a fan. “That Brothers Johnson bass line.”

No info regarding vocals. I'm betting instrumental only.
 
Pentum said:
The only info I have read about Boots Groove is this:

“Boots Groove” was an unreleased demo that Brad shared with the group. “It really sounded similar to ‘Get On The Floor’,” commented a fan. “That Brothers Johnson bass line.”

No info regarding vocals. I'm betting instrumental only.
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I remember reading info of it having vocals, but i have no source to cite unfortunately.
 
Pentum said:
Here's why I agree with Casey on the matter

Under I have listed 56 songs which we know exist, and we know have vocals. Some have more or less than others. (dates aren't precise)

I haven't even counted demos for already known songs, different versions, which may sound very different. Like Someone Put Your Hand Out demo or Speed Demon demo. Perfect examples. You could include at least 1-2 demos/different version of a song on an album for example. The possibilities are many with these projects.

And the list doesn't even include a lot of songs we know have been talked about like some Rodney, Babyface, Akon and Will.I.Am. songs. Heck, even Bryan Loren have some. And there are probably songs we do not even know about, like Dream Away sudden appearance

Alright Now (1980s)
There Must Be More To Life Than This (1983)
State Of Shock (W Freddie) (1983)
Victory (1983)
Hotstreet/Slapstick (1982)
Nite Line (1983)
Don't Matter To Me Demo (1980)
Deep in The Night (1989)
Groove Of Midnight (1985)
Throwin' Your Life Away (1985)
Ghost of Another Lover (1990)
Seven Digits (1990)
Don't Believe It (1990)
Men In Black (1990)
Serious Effect (1990)
She Got It (1990)
If You Don't Love Me (1990)
Work That Body (1990)
Happy Birthday Lisa (1991)
Faces (1994) (yes, it's a speech with instrumental, but I think it can still be released, as an interlude for example. Very powerful piece.
We Be Ballin' (1998)
Family Thing/Family Values (1993)
Elizabeth, I Love You (1997)
Seeing Voices (1999)
Days in Gloucestershire (2004)
People Of The World (1998)
Children's Holiday (1997)
Hollywood Tonight Demo (1999+2008)
I Am (Was) A Loser (2003)
Can't Get Your Weigh Off Of Me (2000)
What More Can I Give (Solo) (1998)
Hot Fun In The Summertime (1998)
Adore You (2004) (no lead vocals, but they might exist, even without, I think we should all witness it)
Be Me 4 A Day (1987 +)
Buffalo Bill (1983)
Changes (1985 + 1994) demo or mixed with both demos)
Crack Kills (1985)
Dark Lady AKA H2O (2008)
Don't Make Me Stay (some vocals) (2000s)
I'm Dreamin (2006) (some vocals)
Monster (1998)
I Have This Dream (2004 - John Barnes version)
Remember What I Told You (2008)
Rocker (2000s)
Saturday Woman (1991) (some vocals)
Tomboy (1985)
Water (2009)
What You Do To Me (1985 version)
Joy (1991)
Hollywood Tonight (1999 + 2008) (with all of the unreleased vocals)
Michael’s Affirmation with Photographs (2003)
She Don't Love Me (2008)
Innocent Man (1994 +2008) (chorus vocals)
You Were There (1989)
Make Or Break (1985)
Turning Me On (1986)

I know a lot of you will dismiss many of these titles as releasable. But I am just saying that if done correctly, and if they are willing to release them, we are looking at 5-6 albums with 8-10 tracks on each. Or projects like era focused projects (anniversary, celebrations, etc.) with demos of already released songs + unreleased songs from the sessions. They don't even need to put out albums with 8-10 tracks. They could do 4-6 with footage/videos related to the songs/sessions, or whatever. Include people who actually worked on them (which is getting too late soon because they are all passing away from age and whatnot)

And again, there are still more songs out there like I mentioned in the beginning of the post. I am probably one of the more optimistic fans when it comes to this. But do I believe The Estate will dig, research, find, contact, and do what they can in order to get these out there somehow? No, I don't
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I just added Make Or Break and Turning Me On to this list.. Both confirmed by John Barnes/Matt Forger to exist with vocals..
 
Is there anything else from Brad Sundberg's seminar that hasn't leaked? Jungle City was played in one of the seminars but that was leaked recently.
 
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Hollywood_Tonight said:
Christmas Star from Home Alone 2 hasn’t leaked. Also I think at some point he played a demo or alternate version of Stranger In Moscow.
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I thought that was playing in one of the leaked videos? The christmas thing I mean, maybe I'm thinking of something else.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I thought that was playing in one of the leaked videos? The christmas thing I mean, maybe I'm thinking of something else.
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I remember hearing this too, I can’t find the video though. Also, not sure if everyone noticed, but demos of Will You Be There and I Can’t Help It leaked from the laptop theft. Links to both:
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Hollywood_Tonight said:
If I’m remembering correctly it’s just an instrumental track. I think a LQ snippet leaked a couple years back.
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AlwaysThere said:
That’s one I’m interested in. I once saw it described as if “Get on the Floor” was recorded for Dangerous. I’d love to see how developed it is.
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Pentum said:
The only info I have read about Boots Groove is this:

“Boots Groove” was an unreleased demo that Brad shared with the group. “It really sounded similar to ‘Get On The Floor’,” commented a fan. “That Brothers Johnson bass line.”

No info regarding vocals. I'm betting instrumental only.
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AdeZ said:
I remember reading info of it having vocals, but i have no source to cite unfortunately.
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I thought I saw on this forum that it was also instrumental. It's a title that really intrigues me.
 
I'm not much of a fan of the Off The Wall album but Get On The Floor is the best song from the album imo, and if there's a song similar to that I would love to listen to it. If it has full vocals like AdeZ suggests it spikes my interest even more. Hopefully the Estate is gonna release the song someday.
 
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Didnt brad play more songs back then and not as much now? like Streetwalker '87, etc, also did he ever play tomboy? (unless he doesnt have it)
 
Lol ok so JacksonUnreleased says that the guy that stole the laptop at the seminar will do it again lmao, prolly not gonna succeed, I would be very surprised if Brad hasn't placed more security measures, much less, he probably isn't gonna play anymore unreleased songs, besides the ones that have leaked.

If we are gonna leak songs, can we just record them LQ instead of stealing laptops?
 
threepea11 said:
Lol ok so JacksonUnreleased says that the guy that stole the laptop at the seminar will do it again lmao, prolly not gonna succeed
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It’d be funny if they end up stealing the same laptop from last time lol, but in all seriousness, there’s no way they’re stupid enough to send the same guy; they’ll have to send a different guy if they want to have a chance of success.
 
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Gluepix said:
Je serais drôle s'ils finiraient par voler le même ordinateur portable que la dernière fois lol, mais simplement, il n'y a aucun moyen qu'ils soient assez stupides pour envoyer le même gars ; ils doivent envoyer un autre gars s'ils veulent avoir une chance de su
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SmoothGangsta said:
Le nom Jacksonunreleased devrait être banni de ce fil
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Lol
 
threepea11 said:
Lol ok so JacksonUnreleased says that the guy that stole the laptop at the seminar will do it again lmao, prolly not gonna succeed
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About this case I keep thinking... why?
Of course I wanted the estate to be more active and release new content, but I would never steal someone's laptop to get MJ content!

I still try to figure out how we got to this point.
 
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