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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

love1sfatal said:
i know theyre not really unreleased but still, are the versions we have of we've had enough, twylm, beautiful girl and in the back older mixes or were they all sort of revamped in 04 for tuc?
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He worked on Beatiful Girl after TUC came out but he didn't record any new vocals for it as far as we know.

MJ certainly didn't work on anything for TUC specifically, anything selected was based on material already existing at the time with no further work on MJ's part.
 
So you guys think that song the leaker of CGYOOM will leak tomorrow as said? I honestly doubt it
 
threepea11 said:
So you guys think that song the leaker of CGYOOM will leak tomorrow as said? I honestly doubt it
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Didn't he already "leaked" an A.I. version of Kai's old song under the name "Paparazzi"? I think that's the song he was talking about.
 
Hot_Street said:
that's in the vault:
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Why can't he do an interview with us at mjjc instead? Those 2 guys obviously have no interest in MJ's unfinished work or unreleased concerts, they are just joking around mostly.

I guess we just aren't famous enough or something 🤷‍♂️ .
 
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Hot_Street said:
that's in the vault:
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Bare in mind that: GWYOOM, Serious Effect, She's Got it, If You don't love me, Chicago 1945, Dream Away, Throwing Your Life Away, Buffalo Bill, Hot Streets, Crack Kills, Gloucestershire, The Loser and many more are in the vault. And the bozos of the Estate made him believe that there is nothing left unpublished.
 
NetflexKing said:
Bare in mind that: GWYOOM, Serious Effect, She's Got it, If You don't love me, Chicago 1945, Dream Away, Throwing Your Life Away, Buffalo Bill, Hot Streets, Crack Kills, Gloucestershire, The Loser and many more are in the vault. And the bozos of the Estate made him believe that there is nothing left unpublished.
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someone should tell him the truth
 
NetflexKing said:
Bare in mind that: GWYOOM, Serious Effect, She's Got it, If You don't love me, Chicago 1945, Dream Away, Throwing Your Life Away, Buffalo Bill, Hot Streets, Crack Kills, Gloucestershire, The Loser and many more are in the vault. And the bozos of the Estate made him believe that there is nothing left unpublished.
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He's not wrong though, a lot of what's in the vault really are just rough ideas. There are plenty of releasable songs remaining, but if you compare that to the vast amount of songs that are instrumentals or that are mumbled then you basically don't have a lot of songs left.
 
ChanceToDance said:
He's not wrong though, a lot of what's in the vault really are rough ideas. There are plenty of releasable songs remaining, but if you compare that to the vast amount of songs that are instrumentals or that are mumbled then you basically don't have a lot of songs left.
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The thing is that he's not talking about the majority of the vault, he talks about everything remaining. It seems that they gave him the impression that everything in the vault is just scratch ideas and ad-libs. While there are at least 15 completed remaining tracks.
 
NetflexKing said:
The thing is that he's not talking about the majority of the vault, he talks about everything remaining. It seems that they gave him the impression that everything in the vault is just scratch ideas and ad-libs. While there are at least 15 completed remaining tracks.
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He said "a lot of the vault" two times, not all of the vault. Saying "most of what's in the vault are rough ideas" seems fair compared to saying there's nothing left like the estate says, even though we know well that's not exactly the case.
 
There's probably enough left for a box set, with lots of unfinished songs, and anniversary releases, with lots of unfinished songs. They seem to mostly care about Material modern artists can change for radio hits mostly.
 
What if the estate were to release each album in a box set that would include:

Alternate/Unused Album Covers in 4K
Each song in the absolute best quality possible
Demos of the songs included in the album (If they had demos)
Unused songs that are in a state of completion or have full vocals
4K/HD Videos
Interviews
Booklet of the history of each song

Wouldn't that be heaven
 
I would honestly trade away all the unreleased songs just so MJ could rest in peace actually. At this point, I'd give away his whole career so the guy could at least have had a chance. It's still very bittersweet that this is all we have to look forward to, and it's not much of a winning game.
 
There are some misconceptions on Michael's vault.

Michael brought up a lot of songs to a certain point where he could hear the chorus, but if he didn't like them, he wouldn't continue working on it.
Michael only finished songs that he was satisfied with and was planning to release.

Michael was also very slow with working on songs, he was such a perfectionist that if things went completely in his way. We may have never had a single album release.

Additionally, Michael's music is in a lot of different producers' hands, it's not all in one place. Michael may have more than almost all other artists but because it's spread so thin, it's difficult to gauge.
 
I think the Estate are keeping their cards close to their chest, given the fact that they have this tax case over their head. The last thing they want to reveal their hand and expose a large amount of earning potential
 
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