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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

It's 7:58am here & I just woke up & I wouldn't have ever thought Id have a dream about a unreleased mj track but I had a dream I heard "water" played by mj in the studio but the exact setting was mj in the studio recording "beautiful girl" the funny thing is....when it got to the chorus it was in the exact same format as the leak & I was like what happened & then I woke up🫨
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I've always assumed the unreleased songs mentioned in the 1993 Mexico deposition are recorded to different degrees of completion.
This is a hunch on my part though

Given the amount of songs, noted in the deposition, we've now heard since it was recorded for one. Although for me the biggest indication is the recognition in Mike's eyes when certain songs are mentioned. It's as if them being mentioned struck a chord with him, I doubt you'd have that with just lyrics on a sheet of paper or even just instrumental grooves.

Also pre 1993, Mike worked hard and did have a scattergun approach were he was constantly working on something, which unfortunately does mean a lot is incomplete.
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I think that's a reasonable assumption. I wouldn't doubt if some are on the completion level of "Changes", while others may be closer to "Who Do You Know", and possibly a handful like "DYKWYCA". With the volume of ideas, there's no telling.
 
Sometimes he just made a song because he had fun doing it, it doesn't necessarily mean he wants to release it, that's what happened with Blue Gangsta.
 
love1sfatal said:
i know theyre not really unreleased but still, are the versions we have of we've had enough, twylm, beautiful girl and in the back older mixes or were they all sort of revamped in 04 for tuc?
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He worked on Beatiful Girl after TUC came out but he didn't record any new vocals for it as far as we know.

MJ certainly didn't work on anything for TUC specifically, anything selected was based on material already existing at the time with no further work on MJ's part.
 
So you guys think that song the leaker of CGYOOM will leak tomorrow as said? I honestly doubt it
 
threepea11 said:
So you guys think that song the leaker of CGYOOM will leak tomorrow as said? I honestly doubt it
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Didn't he already "leaked" an A.I. version of Kai's old song under the name "Paparazzi"? I think that's the song he was talking about.
 
Hot_Street said:
that's in the vault:
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Why can't he do an interview with us at mjjc instead? Those 2 guys obviously have no interest in MJ's unfinished work or unreleased concerts, they are just joking around mostly.

I guess we just aren't famous enough or something 🤷‍♂️ .
 
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Hot_Street said:
that's in the vault:
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Bare in mind that: GWYOOM, Serious Effect, She's Got it, If You don't love me, Chicago 1945, Dream Away, Throwing Your Life Away, Buffalo Bill, Hot Streets, Crack Kills, Gloucestershire, The Loser and many more are in the vault. And the bozos of the Estate made him believe that there is nothing left unpublished.
 
NetflexKing said:
Bare in mind that: GWYOOM, Serious Effect, She's Got it, If You don't love me, Chicago 1945, Dream Away, Throwing Your Life Away, Buffalo Bill, Hot Streets, Crack Kills, Gloucestershire, The Loser and many more are in the vault. And the bozos of the Estate made him believe that there is nothing left unpublished.
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someone should tell him the truth
 
NetflexKing said:
Bare in mind that: GWYOOM, Serious Effect, She's Got it, If You don't love me, Chicago 1945, Dream Away, Throwing Your Life Away, Buffalo Bill, Hot Streets, Crack Kills, Gloucestershire, The Loser and many more are in the vault. And the bozos of the Estate made him believe that there is nothing left unpublished.
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He's not wrong though, a lot of what's in the vault really are just rough ideas. There are plenty of releasable songs remaining, but if you compare that to the vast amount of songs that are instrumentals or that are mumbled then you basically don't have a lot of songs left.
 
ChanceToDance said:
He's not wrong though, a lot of what's in the vault really are rough ideas. There are plenty of releasable songs remaining, but if you compare that to the vast amount of songs that are instrumentals or that are mumbled then you basically don't have a lot of songs left.
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The thing is that he's not talking about the majority of the vault, he talks about everything remaining. It seems that they gave him the impression that everything in the vault is just scratch ideas and ad-libs. While there are at least 15 completed remaining tracks.
 
NetflexKing said:
The thing is that he's not talking about the majority of the vault, he talks about everything remaining. It seems that they gave him the impression that everything in the vault is just scratch ideas and ad-libs. While there are at least 15 completed remaining tracks.
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He said "a lot of the vault" two times, not all of the vault. Saying "most of what's in the vault are rough ideas" seems fair compared to saying there's nothing left like the estate says, even though we know well that's not exactly the case.
 
There's probably enough left for a box set, with lots of unfinished songs, and anniversary releases, with lots of unfinished songs. They seem to mostly care about Material modern artists can change for radio hits mostly.
 
What if the estate were to release each album in a box set that would include:

Alternate/Unused Album Covers in 4K
Each song in the absolute best quality possible
Demos of the songs included in the album (If they had demos)
Unused songs that are in a state of completion or have full vocals
4K/HD Videos
Interviews
Booklet of the history of each song

Wouldn't that be heaven
 
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