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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

I wish Michael changed the tiny video he made about smooth criminal in this is it to Al Capone.
 
SmoothMel7 said:
This title doesn't speak to me. I couldn't find it in the US Copyright register. Where do you know this title from?
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SeriousFX said:
what kind of song is that?
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Are you guys really Michael fans? LOL. Anyway, "Where Is Love" is a cover from the movie "Oliver" and he mentions recording it during this 1982 interview

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BlackAnon said:
Are you guys really Michael fans? LOL. Anyway, "Where Is Love" is a cover from the movie "Oliver" and he mentions recording it during this 1982 interview

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Just found that out via Discord. Kinda embarrassed to admit it, but I thought it was a fake title at first.
 
BlackAnon said:
Are you guys really Michael fans? LOL. Anyway, "Where Is Love" is a cover from the movie "Oliver" and he mentions recording it during this 1982 interview

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I don't think "Where Is Love" is something that's high on MJ fans priority list.
 
BlackAnon said:
Are you guys really Michael fans? LOL. Anyway, "Where Is Love" is a cover from the movie "Oliver" and he mentions recording it during this 1982 interview

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Can you specify which magazine this article comes from? Do you think he recorded this as an adult?
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Is it true beats made for MJ ended up going to Sisqo?
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Some of Sisqo's songs were written/produced with Michael in mind

Montell Jordan: We wrote that song [Incomplete] for Michael Jackson! With Sisqo, we wrote that song, I had Michael Jackson in mind. It’s about a guy who literally had everything but without the girl that his life would be incomplete. The song sat around probably for a year, maybe a year and a half before anybody even came to record the song. It was very cool that at the time, Dru Hill’s lead vocalist Sisqo was going solo and we got an opportunity to record the song on him. Originally, the best thing that I remember about that song was that it was recorded for Michael Jackson. I think I even demoed the song, nobody will ever hear it, but I actually sang the song like Michael Jackson would sing it. There’s probably a version of that somewhere in Shep’s archives.


The producers initially crafted “Thong Song” with Michael Jackson in mind, but once Sisqó heard the opening strings he wanted it all to himself. He then hired acclaimed violinist Bruce Dukov (who notably worked on Star Wars) to rewrite the strings.


Produced by Teddy Riley more than likely with Michael in mind
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Can you specify which magazine this article comes from? Do you think he recorded this as an adult?
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Smash Hits Magazine. He did the interview in 1982 while working on Thriller so my guess is no earlier than 1981 but since the articles says he's currently watching it, I don't see why he'd mention it if it wasn't recorded recently
 
BlackAnon said:
Some of Sisqo's songs were written/produced with Michael in mind

Montell Jordan: We wrote that song [Incomplete] for Michael Jackson! With Sisqo, we wrote that song, I had Michael Jackson in mind. It’s about a guy who literally had everything but without the girl that his life would be incomplete. The song sat around probably for a year, maybe a year and a half before anybody even came to record the song. It was very cool that at the time, Dru Hill’s lead vocalist Sisqo was going solo and we got an opportunity to record the song on him. Originally, the best thing that I remember about that song was that it was recorded for Michael Jackson. I think I even demoed the song, nobody will ever hear it, but I actually sang the song like Michael Jackson would sing it. There’s probably a version of that somewhere in Shep’s archives.


The producers initially crafted “Thong Song” with Michael Jackson in mind, but once Sisqó heard the opening strings he wanted it all to himself. He then hired acclaimed violinist Bruce Dukov (who notably worked on Star Wars) to rewrite the strings.


Produced by Teddy Riley more than likely with Michael in mind
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Very interesting!
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Can you specify which magazine this article comes from? Do you think he recorded this as an adult?
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BlackAnon said:
Smash Hits Magazine. He did the interview in 1982 while working on Thriller so my guess is no earlier than 1981 but since the articles says he's currently watching it, I don't see why he'd mention it if it wasn't recorded recently
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What other films do you like?
I like the old MGM musical. I like thing with great acting, like Katharine Hepburn, Spencer Tracey. I love Oliver! One of my friends lives there (England) - Mark Lester. He’s a friend of mine. Oliver! is one of my favourite films of all time. When he’s here, I visit him and we talk on the phone.

Why do you like that film in particular so much?
Ooooooh! It’s terrific! It’s Dickens’ story. I mean… it’s… it’s incredible. Lionel Bart’s music is unreal… it’s magic. I’m going to record that song in the future, one if the songs…

Which one?
“Where is love?”

MJ's Interview With Smash Hits (Transcribed by me)

THE SMASH HITS INTERVIEW CHRISTMAS 1982: IT’S JUST GONE MIDNIGHT IN THE SMASH HITS OFFICE WHEN A YOUNG MARK ELLEN PICKS UP THE PHONE. AT THE OTHER END, LIVE FROM LOS ANGELES, IS AN EVEN YOUNGER MICHAEL JACKSON, WHOSE NEW LP “THRILLER” HAS JUST BEEN RELEASED. THEIR 35-MINUTE CONVERSATION HAS...
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Another hit that got away is Rufus and Chaka Khan's "Ain't Nobody". Quincy wanted it for Thriller but Hawk already promised it to Chaka but when Hawk asked it be a single, Chaka said it might not be and Hawk threatened to give it to Quincy for Michael

Spice of Life was written for Thriller according to Derek Bramble. Derek said he and Rod wrote it for Michael and said it was the last song submitted and the first song rejected but he did say they started recording it so a partial demo more than likely exists
 
BlackAnon said:
Some of Sisqo's songs were written/produced with Michael in mind

Montell Jordan: We wrote that song [Incomplete] for Michael Jackson! With Sisqo, we wrote that song, I had Michael Jackson in mind. It’s about a guy who literally had everything but without the girl that his life would be incomplete. The song sat around probably for a year, maybe a year and a half before anybody even came to record the song. It was very cool that at the time, Dru Hill’s lead vocalist Sisqo was going solo and we got an opportunity to record the song on him. Originally, the best thing that I remember about that song was that it was recorded for Michael Jackson. I think I even demoed the song, nobody will ever hear it, but I actually sang the song like Michael Jackson would sing it. There’s probably a version of that somewhere in Shep’s archives.


The producers initially crafted “Thong Song” with Michael Jackson in mind, but once Sisqó heard the opening strings he wanted it all to himself. He then hired acclaimed violinist Bruce Dukov (who notably worked on Star Wars) to rewrite the strings.


Produced by Teddy Riley more than likely with Michael in mind
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Robinson and Kelly also mention that they originally created the beat for Michael Jackson, and when MJ later heard Sisqó’s hit, he wanted to work with the two producers.

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Majority of Sisqó’s “Thong Song” Publishing Owned by Writer of "Livin’ La Vida Loca"

Most of Sisqó's 2000 hit "Thong Song" is owned by "Livin' La Vida Loca" writer Desmond Child because of his insistence on using a lyric from the song.
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BlackAnon said:
Another hit that got away is Rufus and Chaka Khan's "Ain't Nobody". Quincy wanted it for Thriller but Hawk already promised it to Chaka but when Hawk asked it be a single, Chaka said it might not be and Hawk threatened to give it to Quincy for Michael

Spice of Life was written for Thriller according to Derek Bramble. Derek said he and Rod wrote it for Michael and said it was the last song submitted and the first song rejected but he did say they started recording it so a partial demo more than likely exists
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Interesting, can you tell me where this information comes from?

I was left with the fact that "Spice Of Life" had indeed been recorded according to Derek Bramble:

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The Producers (International Musician & Recording World, Jan 1985)

Chas de Whalley records the thoughts of David Bowie's young, gifted and black producer, Derek Bramble
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His first solo effort was called Spice Of Live and it was co-written with another ex-Heatwaver Rod 'Songsmith To The Stars' Temperton. It made the final shortlist for Michael Jackson's Thriller — pipping people like Stevie Wonder to the post in the process. Unfortunately the song wasn't included on the album but Manhattan Transfer picked it up instead and enjoyed a huge hit with it virtually everywhere in the world bar the UK.
 
Last song submitted, first song rejected but at least partially recorded, perhaps we can assume that all submitted songs were partially recorded then?

Wishful thinking, likely.
 
filmandmusic said:
Last song submitted, first song rejected but at least partially recorded, perhaps we can assume that all submitted songs were partially recorded then?

Wishful thinking, likely.
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I doubt all submitted songs -except perhaps only Temperton tracks- were recorded.
 
zinniabooklover said:

MJ's Interview With Smash Hits (Transcribed by me)

THE SMASH HITS INTERVIEW CHRISTMAS 1982: IT’S JUST GONE MIDNIGHT IN THE SMASH HITS OFFICE WHEN A YOUNG MARK ELLEN PICKS UP THE PHONE. AT THE OTHER END, LIVE FROM LOS ANGELES, IS AN EVEN YOUNGER MICHAEL JACKSON, WHOSE NEW LP “THRILLER” HAS JUST BEEN RELEASED. THEIR 35-MINUTE CONVERSATION HAS...
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worth posting this part here

Who offered you songs that you didn’t accept? I heard there was one by Stevie Wonder?
Well, Stevie had a one which was good. It was a good song, more a danceable-type thing. There was also… ah, what’s his name?
 
Fuzball said:
worth posting this part here

Who offered you songs that you didn’t accept? I heard there was one by Stevie Wonder?
Well, Stevie had a one which was good. It was a good song, more a danceable-type thing. There was also… ah, what’s his name?
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Yeah, good pick. :)

I adore the entire interview. His last ever print interview in the UK.
 
Fuzball said:
worth posting this part here

Who offered you songs that you didn’t accept? I heard there was one by Stevie Wonder?
Well, Stevie had a one which was good. It was a good song, more a danceable-type thing. There was also… ah, what’s his name?
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An unreleased Stevie Wonder song would be huge. But if he didn't record it then we'll never hear it.
 
Fuzball said:
I doubt all submitted songs -except perhaps only Temperton tracks- were recorded.
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Yeah. The number's exaggerated, but I remember once hearing how Quincy got at least 200 submissions for Thriller...including Stand Tall, Ain't Nobody, She's Trouble, Nite Line, and Spice of Life (dunno if Mystery was also submitted), among others. There was only so much Michael recorded, and we know for a fact that he didn't record all of them.
 
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