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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

firmware-god said:
I don’t know, how many songs are finished.

Otherwise I know someone from 2seas. They have the recordings/demos in their vault. Next time I’m over there, I’m gonna ask and maybe listen, if they let me. I don’t know many people have contacted them about that either way.

Can’t comment on the other song.
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I was asking about the song "I'm Still The King". If it is complete and if MJ is only on the song.
 
firmware-god said:
Interesting thought. I haven’t asked him about the relationship with the Estate in a couple of months.
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I hope i dont bother you but i just gotta ask something more haha.

The mentioned 25 songs… are they MJ solo compositions (alla Speechless, Hollywood Tonight etc) or does this include songs with producers (like Jerkins)?
Also do you know anything about the songs MJ created with Neff-U?

Thanks again 😄
 
Fuzball said:
I think they're doing everything on purpose. The closest thing to the 2008 mux is Neff-U's treatment of HT (with Ace von Johnson on guitar), and yet they've chosen Teddy's abomination.
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I don't think it's on purpose, at least for the rest of the songs. For Xscape and Blue Gangsta they picked the earliest versions there were but for A Place With No Name they picked the most recent version. I think it's just a lack of research on their part.

Even some of the songs that came from the Sony server leaks are also outdated versions instead of recent ones.
 
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firmware-god said:
will.i.am doesn’t want the song out in the public in order to pay respect to Michael.

I don’t know everything about the state of the song. And I certainly won’t comment on who owns a copy.

What I can say; The recreation on YouTube is almost the correct beat. I have the version I heard in my head all the time.
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Paying respect to Michael Jackson does not seem to be an issue for will.i.am.

For example, some years ago will.i.am revealed that he tried to release the 'I'm Dreaming' unreleased song (which also have vocals from Michael Jackson) on his '#willpower' album (2013).

But much to will.i.am's dismay, the Michael Jackson Estate did not give the green light to that.
 
NetflexKing said:
Ah yes! John Branca my favourite Woman. Bro at least Korg shows off while establishing himself with proof, while you're just yapping.
So let me do the same. I have Dark Lady , I might upload a snippet in a few weeks.
Boom. Attention!
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I think he's talking about Alicia though, but if I'm not mistaken she retired a few years ago.
 
firmware-god said:
I‘d say it‘s probably 70/30 for Michael solos.

There are 2-3 more Jerkins tracks from Invincible that are complete. After Invincible, no more Jerkins tracks that are finished to my knowledge.

Neff-U did a great job after all.
I love the TYLA mix - to name one song that’s known already.
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Like get around from jerkins tracks ?
 
firmware-god said:
The someone was me. If I reveal to much information on the conversation itself, Michael Prince and other associates would know who I am. I am trying to prevent that.

Ask specific questions and I might answer them as in depth as I can.
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You contradict yourself, asked about the topic of 25 finished songs in MP‘s possession, you say that „the someone“ talking about it was you.

Some posts of you later you say that you don’t know how many songs are finished..
so what is it?

All in all, you don’t need to wonder why users here are skeptical about you.
You come across as dishonest by the way you post & the contradictions in said posts.
screams „attention seeking“ to me.
 
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MJJuniorSinceMW said:
You contradict yourself, asked about the topic of 25 finished songs in MP‘s possession, you say that „the someone“ talking about it was you.

Some posts of you later you say that you don’t know how many songs are finished..
so what is it?

All in all, you don’t need to wonder why users here are skeptical about you.
You come across as dishonest by the way you post & the contradictions in said posts.
All in all it screams „attention seeking“.
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Well to be fair… he was asked if he knows how many songs from the sessions with will.i.am are finished. It seems he doesnt have Information about that.

The 25 songs he is talking about here are in Michael Prince possession. Thats at least what i can read of his posts.
 
firmware-god said:
Because some kids on here thought I am not telling the truth although I don’t earn anything from it. And I certainly don’t need the attention.

I bought the unmixed stems.
You can guess how much it costs, but I am not revealing that.

But, and that is a very far stretch, if anyone is able to provide me with the whole Teddy Riley Dangerous mixes that popped up on eBay a couple of years ago, I might share the instrumental or some vocals to GOAL.

And no, we are not playing some games along the lines of ‚show us proof’. You guys had the opportunity back then.
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Considering your notorious past, you can't expect everyone to believe you.
 
firmware-god said:
I‘d say it‘s probably 70/30 for Michael solos.

There are 2-3 more Jerkins tracks from Invincible that are complete. After Invincible, no more Jerkins tracks that are finished to my knowledge.

Neff-U did a great job after all.
I love the TYLA mix - to name one song that’s known already.
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The TYLA is too overdubbed. You can barely hear the vocals on it.
 
@firmware-god since you're saying you own a complete version of GOAL why don't you share a short snippet of it and prove that you're being legit? You already said that you're willing to share the full song, sharing a snippet that's no longer than 5 seconds isn't going to make you lose anything. If you want us to think you're being legit at least send us just one proof.
 
ChanceToDance said:
@firmware-god since you're saying you own a complete version of GOAL why don't you share a short snippet of it and prove that you're being legit? You already said that you're willing to share the full song, sharing a snippet that's no longer than 5 seconds isn't going to make you lose anything. If you want us to think you're being legit at least send us just one proof.
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Watch it be a semi-decent MIDI remake
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
You contradict yourself, asked about the topic of 25 finished songs in MP‘s possession, you say that „the someone“ talking about it was you.

Some posts of you later you say that you don’t know how many songs are finished..
so what is it?

All in all, you don’t need to wonder why users here are skeptical about you.
You come across as dishonest by the way you post & the contradictions in said posts.
screams „attention seeking“ to me.
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The fact that he and MJFrenzy are on the same thread together is really alarming.
 
firmware-god said:
I'm not interested in sharing any of the song at the moment. It's also not a miracle to get to it. If you got money, you can buy things. If you have the right connections you might even be able to pull that deal of yourself. I am not gaining anything from anyones trust on this forum. I am sharing my knowledge for free and thats it.

What happens if I provide said snippet is predictable and I rather not have some "mix or extended version" floating around on YouTube.

Plus, you don't seem to be able to understand what I'm saying. I do not have the full song. I have the unmixed stems.
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When u release snippet from GOAL
Unreleased vocal
It's a prove that you have unmixed
 
firmware-god said:
I don't need to prove anything at all to anyone. People "up the chain" know me well enough. That's everything I need. Take the free knowledge or leave it.
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It's not me it's advice they want prove from you like korgnex did for changes
 
firmware-god said:
I'm not interested in sharing any of the song at the moment. It's also not a miracle to get to it. If you got money, you can buy things. If you have the right connections you might even be able to pull that deal of yourself. I am not gaining anything from anyones trust on this forum. I am sharing my knowledge for free and thats it.

What happens if I provide said snippet is predictable and I rather not have some "mix or extended version" floating around on YouTube.

Plus, you don't seem to be able to understand what I'm saying. I do not have the full song. I have the unmixed stems.
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Can you explain the difference between the “full song” and unmixed stems? I’m kinda confused about that. Are there any post 2005 titles that you could share with us that are complete?
 
firmware-god said:
A "full song" should be clear. It's the version thats properly mixed and ready for release.

While mixing the song, you are arranging every bit and peace to where it belongs.
Otherwise vocals or instruments may end up at the wrong time stamp.
You may also add different audio effects.

Then you get something like this:
Listen how the BG and lead vocals don't fit the beat? It's out of tune and sounds horrible.

The unmixed stems have NO time stamp. They have NO place to be and NO audio effects.
They are pretty much useless unless you start arranging them properly and make a song out of it, that sounds good.

That's it for now on infos about completed music. Maybe, if I get around and motivated again, I'll let you know.
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But for me I care more about Michael vocals .he released even changes snippets I mean the vocals are more important
 
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