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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

BlackAnon said:
I don't recall reading about tapes being destroyed.

I have seen him write things which I don't think the public will ever hear. He has a song called 'Iowa' that he wrote. People will never hear that song. Just before he left to film The Wiz, he put all the songs he had written on to tape in the studio in our parents' house. Not one of them has been heard and those were songs to cry for. There are things that he's written for orchestras that are classical music, I swear to you. Like something by Bach or Beethoven. - Janet from Q Magazine 1993.

Iowa might or might not be classical, depending on how you receive the response from Janet.
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Would be nice to use in the biopic like others said or as an interlude in an album.
BlackAnon said:
According to John Barnes, Alright Now was recorded during Victory.

TYLA was recorded in 1988

Sunset Driver is before Thriller but mixed in 1982
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I can tell it was mixed in 1982. The quality is terrible. Sounds like an original dusty cassette tape
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
Would be nice to use in the biopic like others said or as an interlude in an album.

I can tell it was mixed in 1982. The quality is terrible. Sounds like an original dusty cassette tape
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Sunset Driver was also scheduled to be included on the special edition of Off the Wall before being removed

OFF THE WALL
1- Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
2- Rock With You
3- Working Day And Night
4- Get On The Floor
5- Off The Wall
6- Girlfriend
7- She's Out Of My Life
8- I Can't Help It
9- It's The Falling In Love
10- Burn This Disco Out
Bonus Tracks:
11- Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough [Demo]
12- Sunset Driver
13- You Can't Win
 
Michael describing a video concept to his videographer Steven Howell.

“Sun is setting and I must see the sunset from atop so I rush on top of the roof and my God, I become moved by the beauty of a sunset. Show the truth of its beauty on my expression how it inspires me in truth. Wind blows shirt and hair. Different locations of sunset.”

“Talk about myself my dreams and what I want to do. Show me preparing to dance with record glove hat and quick step. Magic shots like a Fosse movie. Then night fall the magic of the night .now. The film must be too good to be true, like a fairy tale. Something out of a story book. The key is to get and do exactly what I see in my head.”

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BlackAnon said:
Michael describing a video concept to his videographer Steven Howell.

“Sun is setting and I must see the sunset from atop so I rush on top of the roof and my God, I become moved by the beauty of a sunset. Show the truth of its beauty on my expression how it inspires me in truth. Wind blows shirt and hair. Different locations of sunset.”

“Talk about myself my dreams and what I want to do. Show me preparing to dance with record glove hat and quick step. Magic shots like a Fosse movie. Then night fall the magic of the night .now. The film must be too good to be true, like a fairy tale. Something out of a story book. The key is to get and do exactly what I see in my head.”

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Sounds like it could've easily fit The Lady In My Life like a glove.
 
Fuzball said:
I wouldn't be surprised, if Tomboy is lyrically a rip-off of Louisa May Alcott's biographical essay "Recollections of my Childhood's Days".

"No boy could be my friend until I had beaten him in a race, and no girl if she refused to climb trees, leap fences ..."


Her novel "Little Women" could have been an inspiration for the song "Little Girls". Just some weird thoughts, though.
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Possibly. There was also an obscure movie that was released called Tomboy..... In 1985.

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Alaslam said:
The original mix of the 1981 demo leaked
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Can you develop it a little more? You have thrown me off. And which demo are you referring to?

According to me:
- Off The Wall Sessions
* Startin' Somethin' [Demo] (2009 Leak) 05:28
* Startin' Somethin' [Demo] [This Is It CD 2] 05:43

- Thriller Sessions
* Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Demo] 06:19
* Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Demo] 06:16
* Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Demo] 06:20

Is it incorrect? I always found WBSS demos confusing.
 
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The mention of "Michael McKellar" has had me wondering...

a) Was it left off HIStory in favor of "Childhood" ?

b) What if MJ had considered it again for Invincible, and would it have fit better than "The Lost Children" ? Simply considering the broad themes of neglect and wanting to escape it.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the song was mentioned in Mike Smallcombe's book as being from HIStory, as well. Title only, blink and you'd miss it. But maybe we can put that part of the mystery to bed now.
 
Honestly, the stuff that came out of the Jeffre Philips lawsuit is some of the most fascinating info I've seen in a while.

What's really blown me away is how many Audio CD-Rs have made their way back to the estate: A mix dated May 09 of Ghost Of Another Lover, TYLA, Breath, and even some songs we know almost nothing about, like Love Heals, Dancing For Love, Heaven With A Smile, You Were There, and more.

Who knows if any of these have vocals or if they're just instrumental ideas.
 
Saka21 said:
Honestly, the stuff that came out of the Jeffre Philips lawsuit is some of the most fascinating info I've seen in a while.

What's really blown me away is how many Audio CD-Rs have made their way back to the estate: A mix dated May 09 of Ghost Of Another Lover, TYLA, Breath, and even some songs we know almost nothing about, like Love Heals, Dancing For Love, Heaven With A Smile, You Were There, and more.

Who knows if any of these have vocals or if they're just instrumental ideas.
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Plus it looks like they've got some of Michael Prince's tracks now. It's kinda funny because they turned down his offer to collaborate, but now they ended up with them anyway thanks to the lawsuit.
 
BlackAnon said:
Michael describing a video concept to his videographer Steven Howell.

“Sun is setting and I must see the sunset from atop so I rush on top of the roof and my God, I become moved by the beauty of a sunset. Show the truth of its beauty on my expression how it inspires me in truth. Wind blows shirt and hair. Different locations of sunset.”

“Talk about myself my dreams and what I want to do. Show me preparing to dance with record glove hat and quick step. Magic shots like a Fosse movie. Then night fall the magic of the night .now. The film must be too good to be true, like a fairy tale. Something out of a story book. The key is to get and do exactly what I see in my head.”

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This also sounds a bit like that home video of him dancing outside his ranch..?
I can't find it but I believe it was a demo video for this commercial:

 
Don't you think it has similarities to the video idea @BlackAnon posted?

Also it's strange that MJ is talking like the ranch footage is for Smooth Criminal while it looks more like that L.A. Gear commercial..?
 
Victorious said:
Don't you think it has similarities to the video idea @BlackAnon posted?

Also it's strange that MJ is talking like the ranch footage is for Smooth Criminal while it looks more like that L.A. Gear commercial..?
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Smooth Criminal video was either in '86 or '87 and Neverland Ranch was purchased in '88. So yeah, I'm not really sure.
 
Victorious said:
Don't you think it has similarities to the video idea @BlackAnon posted?

Also it's strange that MJ is talking like the ranch footage is for Smooth Criminal while it looks more like that L.A. Gear commercial..?
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Derek1984 said:
Smooth Criminal video was either in '86 or '87 and Neverland Ranch was purchased in '88. So yeah, I'm not really sure.
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Smooth Criminal started filming in March of 1987 and the footage from private videos was shot after so it could've been for LA Gear or he was just experimenting but I don't think his written idea was for this in particular
 
Fuzball said:
I always had the impression that MJ wrote the song in 1993. Therefor his surprised reaction at the deposition.
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Yeah that's the same impression I had too mate. Mike looked taken aback when the guy mentioned it to him, doesn't MJ even say "how do you know about Michael McKeller"
The way I took it was as if to say I've only just written that
 
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