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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

I hope we get to hear Michael's version of Christmas Star one day


We recorded a Christmas song during the summer of '94 that needed a children's choir. Michael insisted that the entire studio be decorated with xmas lights, tree, fake snow and a sled for their recording. And he bought presents for everyone. I'm not sure it was ever released. For some reason I think it might have been used in a movie possibly. I did an internet search for the title and it didn't come up. - Rob Hoffman
 
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Going to sequence the album in this order and see how it plays out

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BlackAnon said:
Going to sequence the album in this order and see how it plays out

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What about this fast song Get Up?
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The title was noted on a list with songs considered for Dangerous, leaked by Shana Mangatal. It is likely an instrumental. Judging by the title, it could be an early version of what would eventually become "Jam".
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Get Up

"Get Up" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the Dangerous album. The song was recorded between 1989 and 1990. The title was noted on a list with songs considered for Dangerous, leaked by Shana Mangatal. It's likely an instrumental. The track is an early version of what would...
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What about this fast song Get Up?
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Get Up

"Get Up" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the Dangerous album. The song was recorded between 1989 and 1990. The title was noted on a list with songs considered for Dangerous, leaked by Shana Mangatal. It's likely an instrumental. The track is an early version of what would...
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I think so too, just like 'Lying To Myself' is most probably 'Who Is It' (?)
 
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Hot_Street said:
What about this fast song Get Up?
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Get Up

"Get Up" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the Dangerous album. The song was recorded between 1989 and 1990. The title was noted on a list with songs considered for Dangerous, leaked by Shana Mangatal. It's likely an instrumental. The track is an early version of what would...
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Brad Sundberg said that Jam first originated from an older demo, kind of like Dangerous originated from Streetwalker. I wonder if that's the song he was referring to.
 
BlackAnon said:
I hope we get to hear Michael's version of Christmas Star one day


We recorded a Christmas song during the summer of '94 that needed a children's choir. Michael insisted that the entire studio be decorated with xmas lights, tree, fake snow and a sled for their recording. And he bought presents for everyone. I'm not sure it was ever released. For some reason I think it might have been used in a movie possibly. I did an internet search for the title and it didn't come up. - Rob Hoffman
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Didn't it leak from the laptop theft from last year? There was this studio footage of this Christmas song being recorded with a children's choir but that turned out to be a song from Home Alone 2. Maybe it's that song?
 
BlackAnon said:
Going to sequence the album in this order and see how it plays out

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Based on the demo we have for Men In Black, I wouldn't really consider it slow. More medium, just my opinion.

What I find most fascinating, this must be after Teddy Riley came on board, yet MIB and a few others that never made final tracklist still appear on this list.
 
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What about this fast song Get Up?
Here is some information:

michael-jackson.fandom.com

Get Up

"Get Up" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the Dangerous album. The song was recorded between 1989 and 1990. The title was noted on a list with songs considered for Dangerous, leaked by Shana Mangatal. It's likely an instrumental. The track is an early version of what would...
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I do think that “Get Up” was Jam. I can’t think of any other song it could be. He didn’t tell us the song titles, so I just went by what I heard. Also, if anyone is wondering, “Men In Black” was written way before the movie was made. I remember asking Michael if he had heard that there was a movie being filmed called, “Men In Black”. I told him that he should try to get his song to be the theme song for the movie. He told me that he hadn’t heard about it. I don’t know if he ever submitted the song for the movie, but it would’ve been perfect. Also, from this session, “Monkey Business” and “Remember The Time” really stood out. I couldn’t wait for the album to come out so I could hear those songs again. I was mad when “Monkey Business” wasn’t included - Shana
 
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good luck

The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

95% of the 'insiders' including those clowns who were coming at me calling Lovely Way fake can suck eggs (a song I shared a snippet for, more than can be said for most of these morons) No one knows anything and if you do, prove it who cares about lovely way, i want gywoom cdq gywoomy ❤️
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Fuzball said:
It's crazy that Bill had to lock away his tapes during Dangerous sessions because of BS.
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Has Brad mentioned the situation? Wasn't Bill a special guest at ITSWMJ at some point or am I thinking of someone else?
 
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BlackAnon said:
Has Bruce mentioned the situation? Wasn't Bill a special guest at ITSWMJ at some point or am I thinking of someone else?
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Bill's accused Brad of taking the tapes. This is what he had posted on X (the tweet is now deleted).
He had no access to H'hurst until the last day of my employment, when he showed up late at night and took away all the tapes. To go to Westlake.
This is why, on Dangerous, I bought a locker with padlock.
 
Fuzball said:
Bill's accused Brad of taking the tapes. This is what he had posted on X (the tweet is now deleted).
He had no access to H'hurst until the last day of my employment, when he showed up late at night and took away all the tapes. To go to Westlake.
This is why, on Dangerous, I bought a locker with padlock.
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This is strange because how did Brad get access to the studio? This had to have been a direct order from Michael or his camp
 
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This is what I feel sometimes since Bill and John said their tapes were stolen from Hayvenhurst without their permission and brought to Westlake.
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Would explain why when the laptop was stolen at one of his seminars, nothing was really done about it.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah, I've always taken this as he was asked to go and collect them.
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Had to be a direct order from Michael. He was probably asked to retrieve the material Michael was working on at Hayvenhurst and since Brad was new to the team, he sent him. Plus, if the studio at Hayvenhurst was locked, he had to get the key from someone
 
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Had to be a direct order from Michael. He was probably asked to retrieve the material Michael was working on at Hayvenhurst and since Brad was new to the team, he sent him. Plus, if the studio at Hayvenhurst was locked, he had to get the key from someone
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Correct, he said at ITSWMJ event that MJ wanted the tapes and Brad was hesitant to do it, bc he was employed by MJ but also felt it was wrong to take them. He ultimately decided to take them for MJ.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Interesting to get a glimpse of the rivalries and contentions between MJs collaborators. Maybe that's part of the reason he liked swapping out more and more often.
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My impression is that MJ truly thrived and instigated the contention between his team. Just listen to MJ cast episode 142. Buxer said something along the lines of “mj definitely didn’t mind the contention, it made people compete, what do you get? The greatest albums of all time” MJ was a business man, he understood how competition between different entities brought out the best of products.
 
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Interesting to get a glimpse of the rivalries and contentions between MJs collaborators. Maybe that's part of the reason he liked swapping out more and more often.
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Inthestudiowithmj said:
My impression is that MJ truly thrived and instigated the contention between his team. Just listen to MJ cast episode 142. Buxer said something along the lines of “mj definitely didn’t mind the contention, it made people compete, what do you get? The greatest albums of all time” MJ was a business man, he understood how competition between different entities brought out the best of products.
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Agreed. Michael loved it but it didn't always end well for the collaborators because some of them ended up bitter about certain situations, with valid reasons I would hope.
 
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