No doubt about that.
I wonder if being on the list means there is a version with more vocals or that it was still just in his head..?
Ah I see. It's just so weird that he would consider so little for an album
it's interesting yes.. Sad also, I hoped there would be some more of 'Man In Black'..
Could be Nightline? (sp? Nite Line?)
Yeah that must be it! I wonder if there are any vocals on the dismissed stuff for Bad, by the way he talks about it I am afraid not though..
10 Glen Ballard songs! It would be awesome if Michael had done vocals on any of them but ...
... I agree. It doesn't seem likely, does it?
Pretty sure this is in the footage that leaked from Brad
It is
It does seem inspired by The Nutcracker or some Debussy so could be Michael allright!
It's so sweet how MJ was still in contact with Bobby Taylor as late as his final days.
www.songwritingmagazine.co.uk
"Rod Temperton was there". Yet none of his tracks made it on BAD. Groove of Midnight most definitely had to have been recorded. I wonder if there was anything else.
“So, Man In The Mirror… At the time that song was written, I was working for Quincy Jones as a staff producer for Qwest Records. So I was really intimate with Michael, I’d worked with him – we’d been making the Bad record, and I’d worked on Thriller. For Bad, I’d written at least 10 songs – all uptempo, driving tracks – and none of them [were recorded]. They just wanted the right songs and, you know, Michael was doing some great work, Rod Temperton was there… So I just thought, ‘Okay, the ship has sailed, I took my 10 shots, it isn’t going to work…’ because I’d been disappointed on Thriller [as well].
How we wrote Michael Jackson's 'Man In The Mirror' by Glen Ballard - Songwriting Magazine
The award-winning songwriter had to be convinced by his co-writer to write one more ballad for the King of Pop...
Yeah, that tiny Groove of Midnight clip that exists, that can't be all there is. They have to have recorded the whole thing, surely? Drives me mad with frustration, that one!
I'd love to know.
Matt Forger said they've recorded the song but weren't able to locate a tape with vocals while they're prepping material for Bad25.
Oh, I keep forgetting that. Thanks for the reminder. Not that it helps with the frustration, lol.
The problem might be Temperton and his estate not giving permission. Not saying Forger is lying, but they *could've* found the tape with vocals but would not be given permission. I just hope it didn't just disappear.
Precisely this. I recall hearing years ago that Temperton and the Estate were at odds because he wanted an egregious amount of money to license “Thriller” being used in This Is It. It’s not a surprise to me that none of his unreleased songs have yet been released, other than those that already had attained authorization.
Yeah Temperton and Quincy were/are at odds with the Estate. Anything released with their name on it was pre approved prior to death.
Yes it is (he cites it expressely in another interview, which might be the other one I posted on the latest MITM thread)
The initial demo recording at Hayvenhurst with Bill Bottrell was in late 1986.Going back to TYLA, someone said it's from 1986 but I don't see a registration from 1986, only 1988
It's in the video I posted upthread.
Yeah, would also explain why HotStreet never made Thriller 40 and whatever was recorded for Rolling The Dice.
Hot Street was considered for T25. Michael rejected the proposed tracklist though.