"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

[filmandmusic]

I'm confused, I've so far seen very little hype other than from a few articles and those who attended the screenings? There is obviously discussion and snippets of Jaafar but have I missed something? Lol

Not THAT many people even know about an upcoming biopic.

I would fully expect that to change big time over the coming months but this is the most hyped I've ever seen a movie be among the public? That's straight up lies.

There is zero hype apart from the fanbase at this point in time. The awareness will come when the trailer hits.

 

[dam2040]

There is zero hype apart from the fanbase at this point in time. The awareness will come when the trailer hits.

This is very disconnected from reality. TikTok & other social platforms all contain hype about the movie, from non fans alike.

The MITM pic was a huge moment and there's been a number of viral moments since generating hype. It's not going to be daily discussions, but the excitement and awareness is definitely there.

 

[dethorro]

The things I listed in the second sentence do not invalidate the 1st sentence. I think those things would be good to see. But hardly mandatory.

For all we know, it could be showing his childhood, the moonwalk, and then just the allegations.

I agree. I’m also glad they chose to cover the late 90s/early 00s. You can hardly get a definitive telling of the man’s life if you do not cover the latter part of it.

 

[Absolute Goon]

There is zero hype apart from the fanbase at this point in time. The awareness will come when the trailer hits.

Ehh I kinda agree and don't agree, there has not been any mainstream hype for this movie, and it is true alot of people still dont know there is a biopic coming out, but there is still a large portion of non fans that know about it, I'm pretty active on social media, and I see non fans getting excited for the movie, even people I know IRL are intrigued in the film despite not even being an MJ fan

 

[IhateTheMedia]

Ehh I kinda agree and don't agree, there has not been any mainstream hype for this movie, and it is true alot of people still dont know there is a biopic coming out, but there is still a large portion of non fans that know about it, I'm pretty active on social media, and I see non fans getting excited for the movie, even people I know IRL are intrigued in the film despite not even being an MJ fan

Michael Jackson Biopic Will “Be the Biggest Movie We’ve Ever Had,” Lionsgate Exec Says​

“The buzz that we’re getting every time a photo gets released is kind of crazy," Jim Packer, president of worldwide TV distribution, told an investor conference.​

“The buzz that we’re getting every time a photo gets released is kind of crazy," Jim Packer, president of worldwide TV distribution, told an investor conference.

Jim Packer, president of worldwide television distribution at Lionsgate, is betting the upcoming spin off of his Hollywood studio’s film and TV production and library business will become a franchise machine.

“It’s clear it’s going to be an IP-focused company. It’s going to produce, distribute, film and TV,” Packer told the Gabelli Media & Entertainment Symposium during a session that was webcast. He pointed to the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic Michael, directed by Antoine Fuqua and set for an April 2025 release.

“The buzz that we’re getting every time a photo gets released is kind of crazy. And I think that’ll be the biggest movie we’ve ever had,” Packer forecast. On the intellectual property front, he also pointed to Lionsgate’s Hunger Games movie series, which has brought in around $3.3 billion in box office to date. This means Packer believes that Michael will gross more than every Hunger Games film

 

[Victorious]

This is Papa Joe's father

I know who he is, he is also on my first image, with very blueish eyes. The one with vitiligo holding Michael isn't him, sorry bout that

 

[DuranDuran]

I know who he is, he is also on my first image, with very blueish eyes. The one with vitiligo holding Michael isn't him, sorry bout that

Rufus Thomas didn't have vitiligo. That's his white mutton chop sideburns. Big sideburns were in style then. He was an older guy in the 1970s (I think in his 50s) and was known as the "world's oldest teenager" because he had a few dance craze songs (in the younger Black audience) during the early 1970s. It was sort of a comeback for Rufus at the time. But he had been performing since the 1950s as you can see in the picture with Elvis. Rufus was also a radio DJ, so was B.B. King.

 

[filmandmusic]

This is very disconnected from reality. TikTok & other social platforms all contain hype about the movie, from non fans alike.

I only follow or read traditional old school media like a lot of people still do (at least I think lol) but I do agree a little big that I am disconnected from some reality. I simply don’t care for social media or tiktok or whatever latest hype.

The MITM pic was a huge moment and there's been a number of viral moments since generating hype. It's not going to be daily discussions, but the excitement and awareness is definitely there.

I still don’t know how to measure and give “going viral” weight, I’m sorry.

 

[dam2040]

I only follow or read traditional old school media like a lot of people still do (at least I think lol) but I do agree a little big that I am disconnected from some reality. I simply don’t care for social media or tiktok or whatever latest hype.

I still don’t know how to measure and give “going viral” weight, I’m sorry.

Traditional press media won’t show any hype for it. That’s not really how the modern world works for this sort of thing.

There’s an online buzz for this that will only continue to get stronger.

 

[zinniabooklover]

I only follow or read traditional old school media like a lot of people still do (at least I think lol)

Yep! Me also!

The msm will be a bit more of a slow burn, imo. The other day I posted this from an interview Colman Domingo did with The Times:

Adding in the previous paragraph:

Colman Domingo interview, The Times, 15 August 2024
by Kevin Maher

"Joe fiercely loved his children", Domingo says. "He may not have been a warm person, but he loved them. And he had a different way of showing it, like, 'I'm going to make you the best that you are, because that's my way of loving you.' He was a very complicated man."

And on whether the film, which has been approved by the family, will address the accusations ... he says, "We go through three decades of Michael's life and we get to the early Noughts. That's all I can say." He adds that the Jackson family are "on board with us making the most complex film possible."

It was a two page spread bc Domingo has a new film out (Sing Sing) so he's doing PR for that. The bit about the Michael biopic was a short piece right at the end. The bit I couldn't be bothered to include was this:

"[Domingo] is being courted by Marvel ... Next up though comes, comes another Oscar-baiting behemoth of a part - Joe Jackson,the controlling and controversial patriarch of the Jackson family, in Michael."

I think it's just too soon to see much hype in the msm. As the release date gets closer and more of the actors start doing more interviews, it'll start to build up. Even when the actors have other projects to promote they are going to be asked about this one.

 

[IhateTheMedia]

Yep! Me also!

The msm will be a bit more of a slow burn, imo. The other day I posted this from an interview Colman Domingo did with The Times:

It was a two page spread bc Domingo has a new film out (Sing Sing) so he's doing PR for that. The bit about the Michael biopic was a short piece right at the end. The bit I couldn't be bothered to include was this:

"[Domingo] is being courted by Marvel ... Next up though comes, comes another Oscar-baiting behemoth of a part - Joe Jackson,the controlling and controversial patriarch of the Jackson family, in Michael."

I think it's just too soon to see much hype in the msm. As the release date gets closer and more of the actors start doing more interviews, it'll start to build up. Even when the actors have other projects to promote they are going to be asked about this one.

Seeing as rthe mainstream media literally hates Michael's ****** guts and wishes that he was erased from history, i'm not sure why anyone expects them to hype this movie up. They want it to fail, unless it demonizes Michael.

 

[filmandmusic]

@zinniabooklover what the hell is msm though

 

[filmandmusic]

Seeing as rthe mainstream media literally hates Michael's ****** guts and wishes that he was erased from history, i'm not sure why anyone expects them to hype this movie up. They want it to fail, unless it demonizes Michael.

It’s been ages, there are enough new, young media people who can look at it with an open mind

 

[zinniabooklover]

@zinniabooklover what the hell is msm though

mainstream media. newspapers.

Are we not on the same page (lol)?

 

[IhateTheMedia]

It’s been ages, there are enough new, young media people who can look at it with an open mind

LOL, i wish this was true. They hate Michael more than the orange man. It's apart of the system, they have to hate Michael. See all of those crooked journos shilling that faux LN documentary and review bombing the musical? Or cries from the media to remove him from the Musical Hall of Fame, not including his images in the Wembley anniversary etc. They go out of their way to avoid mentioning him or they'll intentionally rate him low out of spite since they are angry he's not cancelled. Every outlet in America hates Michael Jackson, no figure is hated more by the media than him.

 

[filmandmusic]

mainstream media. newspapers.

Are we not on the same page (lol)?

I figured it out by now but I’m a bit slower

 

[zinniabooklover]

Seeing as rthe mainstream media literally hates Michael's ****** guts and wishes that he was erased from history, i'm not sure why anyone expects them to hype this movie up. They want it to fail, unless it demonizes Michael.

I'm not expecting anything. But that comment from The Times counts as a positive, imo. For sure there will be a lot of negative msm comment about the biopic. Perhaps there won't be any msm hype. I don't really care. But, for me, The Times write-up was a pleasant surprise. I hope to see more of it. If I'm to be disappointed, so be it.

 

[IhateTheMedia]

I'm not expecting anything. But that comment from The Times counts as a positive, imo. For sure there will be a lot of negative msm comment about the biopic. Perhaps there won't be any msm hype. I don't really care. But, for me, The Times write-up was a pleasant surprise. I hope to see more of it. If I'm to be disappointed, so be it.

It's the people vs Media, and the public will win. Michael Jackson is by far the most popular figure in the world. The estate has broken industry records with every posthumous release across multiple entertainment mediums

 

[filmandmusic]

It's the people vs Media, and the public will win. Michael Jackson is by far the most popular figure in the world. The estate has broken industry records with every posthumous release across multiple entertainment mediums

Business wise everything is going well but if I wasn’t a fan I would not have any knowledge about any of the projects surrounding Michael. If you are above 40 like me and have no clue about modern media there simply is no buzz surrounding MJ anymore. The last buzz that caught my attention through mass media was sadly LN and also Thriller40 but that died out really quickly.

 

[IhateTheMedia]

Business wise everything is going well but if I wasn’t a fan I would not have any knowledge about any of the projects surrounding Michael. If you are above 40 like me and have no clue about modern media there simply is no buzz surrounding MJ anymore. The last buzz that caught my attention through mass media was sadly LN and also Thriller40 but that died out really quickly.

Lionsgate says otherwise, also so do most people

More than half of adults (56%) are interested in watching a biopic about Michael Jackson. Among generations, Gen Zers (75%) were most likely to be interested, followed by millennials (67%). A musical about Jackson is currently on Broadway, while many of his songs have been used on TikTok, perhaps boosting awareness among the youngest adult generation.

New Morning Consult data has more good news for the movie’s financial — and cultural — prospects. Well over half of U.S. adults (58%) said they plan to see “Avatar: The Way of Water”

52% of Americans plan on Watching Avengers Endgame, this is lower than the 55% for Black Panther. With 73% of Parents with Children under the age of 18 interested in Avengers Endgame (Gen Z / Millennials)

Michael has higher interest than Avengers Endgame around Millennials and Zoomers.

 

[filmandmusic]

Lionsgate says otherwise, also so do most people



Michael has higher interest than Avengers Endgame around Millennials and Zoomers.

I just hope you don’t put too much importance on social media only because you could be disappointed when you realize there are still dozens of millions of old school people who find their information through other means. I can only hope I will also see ads for the film on billboards, tv ads, newspapers and other more tangible ways for me.

 

[DuranDuran]

Seeing as rthe mainstream media literally hates Michael's ****** guts and wishes that he was erased from history, i'm not sure why anyone expects them to hype this movie up. They want it to fail, unless it demonizes Michael.

When the movie gets ready to come out, the actors (maybe the director too) are going to have to go to mainstream outlets to promote it. Like on TV talk shows: Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Steven Colbert, The View, Entertainment Tonight, Kelly Clarkson, GMA, Kelly & Mark, Graham Norton, etc. and also entertainment magazines like Rolling Stone or Variety. Not everybody follows stuff online.

 

[IhateTheMedia]

I just hope you don’t put too much importance on social media only because you could be disappointed when you realize there are still dozens of millions of old school people who find their information through other means. I can only hope I will also see ads for the film on billboards, tv ads, newspapers and other more tangible ways for me.

As of April 2024, there were 5.44 billion internet users worldwide, which amounted to 67.1 percent of the global population. Of this total, 5.07 billion, or 62.6 percent of the world's population, were social media users.

 

[Victorious]

The question is: if you were not a fan, would you go see this movie..?

 

[filmandmusic]

The question is: if you were not a fan, would you go see this movie..?

I probably wouldn’t. It’s not the type of film I would visit a cinema for but this being MJ and me being a hard fan I will make an exception.

 

[Blues_Away2023]

Seeing as rthe mainstream media literally hates Michael's ****** guts and wishes that he was erased from history, i'm not sure why anyone expects them to hype this movie up. They want it to fail, unless it demonizes Michael.

Don't want to be too critical but can you go a little easy please rather than ****** this and ****** that, hate etc all the time?

You always sound so angry, relax

 

[Blues_Away2023]

It's the people vs Media, and the public will win. Michael Jackson is by far the most popular figure in the world. The estate has broken industry records with every posthumous release across multiple entertainment mediums

Sorry dude, but I can't help but notice that you exaggerate absolutely everything.

Michael is the most popular figure in the world, a few days ago it was that he was the most loved person in the world.

Can you not just accept that he was human? He doesn't have to the best, or have the most followers , it's not a competition.

Your obsession about him being number 1 at everything will eventually bite you on the backside.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

First off I'd argue Cirque De Soleil and The Broadway Musical both get tons of good publicity for MJ. They really have the longest legs.

There's no MJ hype because there hasn't been any "new" music since 2014, 2018 if you count the Drake song. Awful in hindsight but it did notch MJ another top 10 Hit. Anyway, there's nothing there. No summer hit to hear, the school year just started, so that's over. Thriller 40 was as clinical a project as can be, in a streaming deal that's basically locked behind a treasure map.

The We Are The World was positively received also.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Anyway, on a side point maybe, in this movie thread, let's talk about the movie, I guess:



The movie has to have good acting. We like good acting in movies.

I just saw Twisters yesterday. I had absolutely no interest in it, I was chaperoning..but I got. Invested. Because stories have that affect. Because being in the cinema is made for immersion. And my investment was kept because the acting was good and the narrative progressed, I was invested. S/O to Glen Powell in particular, mans a master class.

And it's the same with Michael, get the audience hooked and we will notice. Good acting will sound great to those who want it. And word of mouth might just work just like it did for MJ in his entire career.

And I'll even be generous: long movies can work. But I had to pee a lot and I hate getting up so it's also annoying. But sure, the film can be a few hours long.

 

[Ronald Stain]

Anyway, on a side point maybe, in this movie thread, let's talk about the movie, I guess:



The movie has to have good acting. We like good acting in movies.

I just saw Twisters yesterday. I had absolutely no interest in it, I was chaperoning..but I got. Invested. Because stories have that affect. Because being in the cinema is made for immersion. And my investment was kept because the acting was good and the narrative progressed, I was invested. S/O to Glen Powell in particular, mans a master class.

And it's the same with Michael, get the audience hooked and we will notice. Good acting will sound great to those who want it. And word of mouth might just work just like it did for MJ in his entire career.

And I'll even be generous: long movies can work. But I had to pee a lot and I hate getting up so it's also annoying. But sure, the film can be a few hours long.

I just watched Oppengamer, and that's masterpiece! I hope Michael will have something in common with this movie (in a way of acting)