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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

SeriousFX said:
I'm pretty sure that vocal take was from 1994, judging by the operatic intro.
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I'd say so too. If I remember correctly, there was a scan of an insert of a "Ghosts" DAT tape dated 1994 among the stuff leaked during the Brad Sundberg laptop theft.
SeriousFX said:
XTRA INFO: you can actually re-create what the Dangerous-era instrumental sounded like through the leaked multitracks. It has a different intro and lacks the driving rhythmic sound that defines "Ghosts."
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Yup. I've been wanting to create a remix of the song using the multitracks of the early version but there are so many empty or unused tracks I gave up on that. I have to look at it again. :)
 
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SmoothGangsta said:
I was referring to the fact he used a mix down of the song to build his mix, not like he was using an amatuer recording. It wouldn't sound nearly this bad. If it's real I guess the file we have has just been massacred sound quality wise lol.
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Is it possible to restore this mix?
 
ToMi said:
Was "Ghosts" really recorded in 1991? There's a list which originates from the Dangerous sessions that includes a track called "Ghost", but, to be honest, I'm pretty much leaning towards it being "Ghost of Another Lover", given by the fact the note next to the title says "Teddy do overdubs, get lyrics from writer" - who is Thom Russo.

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I doubt it’s “Ghost of Another Lover.” Signs point to “Ghost” first being worked on around 1991. Plus, on a more irrelevant note, it seems odd that MJ would spell out every song title but that one.

Plus, Thom Russo is an engineer, not a writer.
 
I once made a post about 'Ghosts', BOTDF and RTT having the same samples; and that's why to me it always sounded like they originated from the same sessions:

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AlwaysThere said:
I doubt it’s “Ghost of Another Lover.” Signs point to “Ghost” first being worked on around 1991. Plus, on a more irrelevant note, it seems odd that MJ would spell out every song title but that one.

Plus, Thom Russo is an engineer, not a writer.
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Oh... I always thought Russo wrote GOAT. Is that incorrect then?
 
firmware-god said:
This is untrue. GOAL was played once at Kingvention and never again. You can't have heard it, since the original sessions are residing with the Estate, Michael Prince, Brad Buxer and me. There is a CD with two mixes. But it has never leaked and never will.

Edit: Thom Russo obviously owns a copy too.
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Is there more to GOAL than what we hear on the leak or are both of those mixes of the mumbling type? I love the demo already btw, although I hope he did work on it later on in life, like planned..
 
It's fascinating to me how MJ revisited that song only 2 months before he died. I wonder what was the exact amount of songs he had worked on in 2009 since 2008 was supposedly the last time he had given full effort into creating music.

Iirc Prince once said that MJ would work on music right after he'd come back from the TII rehearsals so there had to be some amount of songs that were progressed further.
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
In who's possession is this CD?
I hope the estate..
Anybody knows what "rvi. Prince" means?
If there's a "Mix 7" there's at least 6 other mixes..
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Those CD's were stolen by LaToya's husband after Michael's death. The Estate has taken legal actions to get them back. "rvi" is actually "M" reffering to Michael Prince
 
NetflexKing said:
Those CD's were stolen by LaToya's husband after Michael's death. The Estate has taken legal actions to get them back. "rvi" is actually "M" reffering to Michael Prince
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If I remember correctly, this case was finished, they did get all the music back, or no?

Zzz LaToya.. Always damaging MJ's legacy in one way or another..
 
firmware-god said:
3. I can not provide any snippets. Even if I wanted to. This would burn a shit ton of bridges. And I know these people are reading here.
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The problem everyone here has with you is that you have provided exactly nothing that backs up what you're saying in any way. You've been on here for a long time now, and all you do is add fuel to the fire, whilst simultaneously revealing nothing new.

Korgnex is (relatively) well respected because he doesn't need to brag about what he owns. Even if what he puts out is utter nonsense, like his Best of Joy "mix", at least it shows that he has something that everyone else wants to hear.

All you do is come up with crackpot schemes like "wear a shirt with the MJJC logo to a random European seminar and I'll give you a special CD with rare material!!" Or whatever else you go on about.

If all you can contribute to this thread is "I have lots of unreleased material, but I can't tell you anything about it", then what's the point in even doing what you do? Unless you're so sad that you'd make up everything just to wind us all up
 
firmware-god said:
You know what’s funny? I offered multiple individual who are well respected here to come and listen for themselves. They refused.

What would be sufficient proof?

And please include a reason on why I should.
What are my gains?
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Buddy you've become a Lotfi level Meme in the forum. Congratulations 👏
In this very Forum there are people who legitimately have things you can't even imagine.
In their eyes you are a little clown who makes us giggle with your pathological lying.
 
firmware-god said:
You know what’s funny? I offered multiple individual who are well respected here to come and listen for themselves. They refused.
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Listen to what exactly? A snippet? Full song? Are you referring to the GOAL mix that you claim to own?
firmware-god said:
What would be sufficient proof?
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Sufficient proof would be either the first option I listed above: a snippet that confirms that you own unreleased material, sent to a trustworthy member of this forum - or, alternatively - written proof of some kind that confirms that you possess information that is not available anywhere else. This could be, for example, production notes.
firmware-god said:
nd please include a reason on why I should.
What are my gains?
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You're only gain would be that everyone here would take what you're saying seriously. If you do indeed have unreleased material, I can understand your dilemma in that you have promised to never share anything. But like I said before, what's the point in trying to discuss the topic if all you're doing is reiterating information that's already well-known?
 
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