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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Gluepix said:
Unfortunately, that technology is currently only available to Peter Jackson, his team, and Giles Martin, who’s behind the remixed Beatles albums; it doesn’t seem like they intend on sharing it, either.
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I think if the Estate aren't actively negotiating this right now, around the time of the biopic, there'll definitely be a renewed interest in this idea.
 
BlackAnon said:
Getting back on track. I'm ready to hear unreleased material from The Jacksons. That Girl was considered for Destiny and Triumph and originally scheduled to appear on the former but was replaced by Blame it on the Boogie. Bobby Colomby, who was responsible for The Jacksons with Epic said Blame It On The Boogie and Push Me Away were recorded first. Epic wanted Blame It On The Boogie on the album because they wanted to guarantee at least one hit on Destiny since they planned on dropping them after Goin' Places.
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Probably been mentioned here before but speaking of Destiny and Push Me Away, listen to this track. Also from 1978 and ironically called "Destiny". Sound a bit like Push Me Away? String arranger is Clare Fischer. Horns by Jerry Hey.

 
Derek1984 said:
Probably been mentioned here before but speaking of Destiny and Push Me Away, listen to this track. Also from 1978 and ironically called "Destiny". Sound a bit like Push Me Away? String arranger is Clare Fischer. Horns by Jerry Hey.

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I can hear this on Destiny or Off the Wall but it reminds me of I Can't Help It a little.
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
So anyways…. I have a hot take that could potentially land me in jail.

Get Your Weight Off Of Me >>>>> Throwing Your Life Away
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WHY ARE THEY BOOING YOU? YOU’RE RIGHT!

Honestly though, neither are spectacular songs, but I just don’t get the hype for “Throwin’ Your Life Away.” The chorus is such a nonstarter, and the melody is bland in my opinion. GYWOOM is far catchier and, to be honest, I’d probably rank it above at least two Darkchild songs on Invincible.
 
BlackAnon said:
Getting back on track. I'm ready to hear unreleased material from The Jacksons. That Girl was considered for Destiny and Triumph and originally scheduled to appear on the former but was replaced by Blame it on the Boogie. Bobby Colomby, who was responsible for The Jacksons with Epic said Blame It On The Boogie and Push Me Away were recorded first. Epic wanted Blame It On The Boogie on the album because they wanted to guarantee at least one hit on Destiny since they planned on dropping them after Goin' Places.
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How do you know "That Girl" was replaced by BIOTB? What's the source? Just curious.

I'm going to guess the song is uptempo. Surprised it wasn't good enough to still find a place on Destiny. I wonder if it was re-recorded for Triumph?
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
So anyways…. I have a hot take that could potentially land me in jail.

Get Your Weight Off Of Me >>>>> Throwing Your Life Away
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To me, TYLA sounds like a hit that never got the chance to become one.
Here the man who told Oprah that he is married to his work sings “Now I must find, there’s no love in my life.”
TYLA is super direct and honest.
 
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BlackAnon said:
Getting back on track. I'm ready to hear unreleased material from The Jacksons. That Girl was considered for Destiny and Triumph and originally scheduled to appear on the former but was replaced by Blame it on the Boogie. Bobby Colomby, who was responsible for The Jacksons with Epic said Blame It On The Boogie and Push Me Away were recorded first. Epic wanted Blame It On The Boogie on the album because they wanted to guarantee at least one hit on Destiny since they planned on dropping them after Goin' Places.
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Tito and Jackie said that they're planning to release a new album next year. It'd be interesting if they take Michael's vocals from some of those outtakes and re-use them for the new album or if they decide to complete those songs.
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The Jacksons to release a docu-series and a new album - MJVibe

The Jacksons told Fox that they are working on an 8-part documentary which should come out in August 2025 along with a new album.
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ChanceToDance said:
Tito and Jackie said that they're planning to release a new album next year. It'd be interesting if they take Michael's vocals from some of those outtakes and re-use them for the new album or if they decide to complete those songs.
www.mjvibe.com

The Jacksons to release a docu-series and a new album - MJVibe

The Jacksons told Fox that they are working on an 8-part documentary which should come out in August 2025 along with a new album.
www.mjvibe.com www.mjvibe.com
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hopefully they get support from Jaafar
 
ChanceToDance said:
Tito and Jackie said that they're planning to release a new album next year. It'd be interesting if they take Michael's vocals from some of those outtakes and re-use them for the new album or if they decide to complete those songs.
www.mjvibe.com

The Jacksons to release a docu-series and a new album - MJVibe

The Jacksons told Fox that they are working on an 8-part documentary which should come out in August 2025 along with a new album.
www.mjvibe.com www.mjvibe.com
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I would think using MJ's vocals would require approval from the Estate and you know what will happen there.

The brothers need to focus on re-releasing Destiny, Triumph, and Victory with all the outtakes and extended cuts.
 
Thinking of the 'Just Say No' campaign again: could TYLA be about drugs? Apparently my English is not good enough to completely make out the lyrics..

And now I am speaking about lyrics: what is Streetwalker about? Is it about a prostitute? Who he wants to take on vacation??
Do you think 'Streetwalker' would be the final title if it would have been on Bad, isn't it pretty controversial word..?




@BlackAnon
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
So anyways…. I have a hot take that could potentially land me in jail.

Get Your Weight Off Of Me >>>>> Throwing Your Life Away
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I'd agree.

They're both mid but Weight is at least complete and HQ while TYLA is LQ with placeholder lyrics but still neither one of them would've brought anything to the albums they were intended for
 
AlwaysThere said:
WHY ARE THEY BOOING YOU? YOU’RE RIGHT!

Honestly though, neither are spectacular songs, but I just don’t get the hype for “Throwin’ Your Life Away.” The chorus is such a nonstarter, and the melody is bland in my opinion. GYWOOM is far catchier and, to be honest, I’d probably rank it above at least two Darkchild songs on Invincible.
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I know it is not a popular opinion but I think both songs are pretty crap tbh. Of course it always nice to hear unheard stuff. However neither song especially TYLA does anything for me , very repetitive and quite mumbly. Ok there may be a more complete version but I do not think it would alter my opinion. Same with the Loren songs , Men in Black , Serious Effect etc , boring songs. The Loren song i do love however is Superfly Sister.
 
Throwin' Your Life Away is catching strays because Don't Be Messin' Round was so mid that nobody remembers it.
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Don’t Be Messin’ ‘Round” is a good song and I’ll die on that hill. Nothing spectacular, but it’s an interesting little experiment.
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Of course it is nothing spectacular it is a very rough demo with zero comprehensible lyrics apart from the title
 
filmandmusic said:
Of course it is nothing spectacular it is a very rough demo with zero comprehensible lyrics apart from the title
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PS could the bad 25 demo be one of earliest ones considering Michael does the throat Oh Oh sound he often did during the early 80s with the Jacksons. I don’t recall him doing those post Thriller’
 
filmandmusic said:
Of course it is nothing spectacular it is a very rough demo with zero comprehensible lyrics apart from the title
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I don’t think that matters tbh. Plenty of MJ demos are mostly mumbling (“In the Back,” “Al Capone,” “Days in Gloucestershire”) and they’re still excellent. It’s all about the vibe and the music.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I don’t think that matters tbh. Plenty of MJ demos are mostly mumbling (“In the Back,” “Al Capone,” “Days in Gloucestershire”) and they’re still excellent. It’s all about the vibe and the music.
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Yeah but none of them have the wow factor because of the state they are in. It are good basic ideas nothing more nothing less
 
I used to love TYLA back when it first leaked and I listened to it every single day for 2 years. Back during that time I'd say it was easily the best unreleased MJ song there was but now that we have the song in better quality I can hear that it's actually a weak song. My main problem with it is that the vocals lack substance and make the song sound pretty dull in return.

The 2010 remix sort of brought back my liking for the song though, those strings at the end are seriously amazing and I've been listening to that part on repeat for a while now. I don't know if that's just the excitement of hearing new MJ material and if it'll fade away soon but the strings Neff-U did is the only redeeming quality of the remix and of the song overall lol.
 
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According to Brad Sundberg PoF wasn't considered for the album.
So, all the work at Westlake was just for the Pepsi spot?
 
Fuzball said:
According to Brad Sundberg PoF wasn't considered for the album.
So, all the work at Westlake was just for the Pepsi spot?
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Where else would they work on the song? I don't think everything recorded at Westlake meant inclusion on an album
 
When it comes to unreleased stuff I love songs that have their own distinctive vibe. There's nothing in Mike's discography like Don't Be Messin' Round, Ghost Of Another Lover, In The Back, Beautiful Girl or Days In Gloucestershire for example.

I'm not sure how songs like these would have fit on albums, but I love that Mike was experimenting and trying to push his productions in different directions
 
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