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Rock With You 4K

In this case, being extremely low-budget is part of the charm.
 
MJbr2 said:
It's not all bad. Looks pretty decent and, honestly, it's better than anything we could do since we don't have access to a clean, untouched transfer of the master tape. Quality is subpar on any of the DVDs, even altered in some (remastered, if you will).
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Yeah, given the source it looks OK.
 
flight85 said:
Does this mean Wembley 4K coming soon? Maybe Victory tour 4K that they teased on the T40 doc? One can dream.
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Do you just want them to upscale the SD source of Wembley? It wouldn't make it more detailed.
 
R1chard said:
They actually don't have the SD source.
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There have been rumours for years that they actually managed to locate the tape master a year after the DVD was released. If that's true, will they ever let us know and replace the messed up VHS copy with that? I don't think so.
 
MJbr2 said:
All the material from the Wembley concerts (except APOM) has been lost, theoretically.
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That is probably true but I want to think that they might have a lot of the material. Maybe not enough for a full concert release. If they have the "outtakes" of Another Part of Me music video then its likely that they or Warner have Moonwalker Man in the Mirror "outtakes" too.
 
Galactus123 said:
That is probably true but I want to think that they might have a lot of the material. Maybe not enough for a full concert release. If they have the "outtakes" of Another Part of Me music video then its likely that they or Warner have Moonwalker Man in the Mirror "outtakes" too.
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Yeah, not enough for a full concert is credible. However, if I remember correctly, WB still owns the negatives of Moonwalker. If anything, the Estate could only possess prints of the live concert bits on the movie.
 
Kazu MJ Wilson said:
My twitter follower told me this may be the part of promotion for OTW Mobile Fidelity Hybrid SACD and Vinyl which will come out next week. so we might be able to have hope for the remaster of Don’t Stop and She’s out of my life too.
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Interesting, might be true.
 
↑↑↑ That seems to be the most plausible explanation, I was about to ask here why they did this so randomly. Can't possibly be promo for the biopic since it's way too early for that. HIStory 30 is coming out soon, this makes me think they'll at least upload upscales of the video clips from that album in the upcoming months as well.
 
Kazu MJ Wilson said:
My twitter follower told me this may be the part of promotion for OTW Mobile Fidelity Hybrid SACD and Vinyl which will come out next week. so we might be able to have hope for the remaster of Don’t Stop and She’s out of my life too.
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Well, (1) I don't think the estate are even aware of the MoFi release. And even if they were, they definitely wouldn't want to promote it.

But (2) you've hit the nail right on the head. It amazes me how people are so obsessed with getting 4K video resolution out of a 40 year old VHS tape, and yet very few people seem to care about getting high-resolution versions of the actual music itself, lol.

Get excited guys - we are about to receive the best version of the album that you ever heard!
 
AlwaysThere said:
I mean, since it’s not possible to get a true 4K upscale of the original video, this certainly could’ve been worse. I don’t see much of a difference personally, but whatever.
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I don’t feel any necessity of upscale from SD to 4k too but I evaluate their remaster this time becouse some artist’s managements like oasis or Queen (Miracle era) are using ai upscale too much and these looks unnatural often for me.


 
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R1chard said:
Well, (1) I don't think the estate are even aware of the MoFi release. And even if they were, they definitely wouldn't want to promote it.

But (2) you've hit the nail right on the head. It amazes me how people are so obsessed with getting 4K video resolution out of a 40 year old VHS tape, and yet very few people seem to care about getting high-resolution versions of the actual music itself, lol.

Get excited guys - we are about to receive the best version of the album that you ever heard!
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I’m personally skeptical for this DSD remaster by using 46 years old original analog master tape. Analog tapes gradually deteriorate, and with them the sound quality. Some artists start using another copy master or degital master to deal with this. but if they use original mastertape, it must be corrected with modern mastering techniques strongly, which are unlikely to compete with the original vinyl in 1979. In my opinion tho🤔
 
Kazu MJ Wilson said:
I don’t feel any necessity of upscale from SD to 4k too but I evaluate their remaster this time becouse some artist’s managements like oasis or Queen (Miracle era) are using ai upscale too much and these looks unnatural often for me.


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Yeah, these videos are too far. I think the MJ video is done tastefully enough.
 
This has led me down a YouTube rabbit hole that made me rediscover the Diana special performance of rock with you and I would argue that it would make for a better music video. There's a crowd, more interaction with the camera, slightly different vocals.
 
Kazu MJ Wilson said:
I’m personally skeptical for this DSD remaster by using 46 years old original analog master tape. Analog tapes gradually deteriorate, and with them the sound quality. Some artists start using another copy master or degital master to deal with this. but if they use original mastertape, it must be corrected with modern mastering techniques strongly, which are unlikely to compete with the original vinyl in 1979. In my opinion tho🤔
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I don't know man, Thriller MOFI's release was preeeetty god damn good, all i'm gonna say lol
 
NeoGardiV12 said:
I don't know man, Thriller MOFI's release was preeeetty god damn good, all i'm gonna say lol
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Let's not downplay it, the MoFi SACD version of Thriller has become the standard that all other versions are judged against...

And the OTW master tape is only 3 years older.

Maxym said:
No, they are not aware of it, and they don't promote it. No no no, they don't: https://www.shopmichaeljackson.com
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Um, what? You realise that's just a random site that's in no way official?

Right?
 
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