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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

SmoothGangsta said:
Where are these details that it was only one of the cascio family that tried to extort the estate coming from?
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Well it isn't "confirmed" that it was the cascio family but it basically was
In all the articles past the "MJ estate settled with 5 new accusers" headline, they all detail the fact that an individual through lawyers contacted the estate saying they want 213M
John Branca made this very clear when he spoke about it to the news.
Now it's not known if the rest of the family are also apart of what this individual tried doing, but it wouldn't shock me since during LN they asked for money to defend Michael

The "Ten years on and goin' strong" episode on The MJCast goes deeper into what happened with the cascios, so I recommend giving that a listen
 
Absolute Goon said:
Well it isn't "confirmed" that it was the cascio family but it basically was
In all the articles past the "MJ estate settled with 5 new accusers" headline, they all detail the fact that an individual through lawyers contacted the estate saying they want 213M
John Branca made this very clear when he spoke about it to the news.
Now it's not known if the rest of the family are also apart of what this individual tried doing, but it wouldn't shock me since during LN they asked for money to defend Michael

The "Ten years on and goin' strong" episode on The MJCast goes deeper into what happened with the cascios, so I recommend giving that a listen
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Yeah I listened to the episode. I thought you were saying it was confirmed the rest of the family weren't involved.
 
Arckangel said:
An idea... If you don't want to give it views, press "Pause" as soon as you land on the YouTube page of the documentary, and then post a supporting comment for MJ. Of course, only if you want! It just looks better when the vast majority of the comments are pro-MJ.
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I'm pretty sure posting comments also boosts the video. It's probably best not to interact with it at all. But if you do decide to click on the video, at least report it to get it age-restricted, I don't know why it isn't already marked as such... Does Dan Reed think those graphic descriptions of sexual abuse are appropriate for children? Getting it age-restricted, as it should be, will require people to have a youtube account to watch it, so they will get less views.
 
Absolute Goon said:
yep i 100% agree with you, they were really salty that their disrespectful tracks were removed by the estate after the legal troubles that happened
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It says so much about them tho. Out of all the lies they could have threatened with (and regardless, lying is messed up no matter what the lie) but why go for the lie that ultimately killed your supposed friend and caused him to live a nightmare. 😑
 
etoile 37 said:
I'm pretty sure posting comments also boosts the video. It's probably best not to interact with it at all. But if you do decide to click on the video, at least report it to get it age-restricted, I don't know why it isn't already marked as such... Does Dan Reed think those graphic descriptions of sexual abuse are appropriate for children? Getting it age-restricted, as it should be, will require people to have a youtube account to watch it, so they will get less views.
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I feel we need to mass report it! Hit pause and report! 🙂

*Edit* I just noticed where you said report it!
 
etoile 37 said:
I'm pretty sure posting comments also boosts the video. It's probably best not to interact with it at all. But if you do decide to click on the video, at least report it to get it age-restricted, I don't know why it isn't already marked as such... Does Dan Reed think those graphic descriptions of sexual abuse are appropriate for children? Getting it age-restricted, as it should be, will require people to have a youtube account to watch it, so they will get less views.
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PLEASE use an adblocker (uBlock origin with firefox) when you open the video on youtube so they dont earn a penny with it when you watch or just open it!!!!
 
just found out that leaving neverland 2 is a thing and hs just been released, that shit is making NO NOISE whatsoever. hadn't i gone on the streaming services just then; i wouldn't know about it.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Where are these details that it was only one of the cascio family that tried to extort the estate coming from?
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In one of the articles (there were two that contradict each other and then Stacy brown further added confusion by insinuating the cascios didn't make allegations after all) branca is quoted as saying "one of them" came back to demand more money.
 
etoile 37 said:
I'm pretty sure posting comments also boosts the video. It's probably best not to interact with it at all. But if you do decide to click on the video, at least report it to get it age-restricted, I don't know why it isn't already marked as such... Does Dan Reed think those graphic descriptions of sexual abuse are appropriate for children? Getting it age-restricted, as it should be, will require people to have a youtube account to watch it, so they will get less views.
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THIS is an excellent suggestion.
 
This Jane Doe character, I’m so curious about this one.

Alleged abuse in the mid 80’s, cheques made out in her name etc, what were these for? Does anyone know?
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
This Jane Doe character, I’m so curious about this one.

Alleged abuse in the mid 80’s, cheques made out in her name etc, what were these for? Does anyone know?
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Its fake checks. What is there to be curious about? Anyone can forge a check.

And who keeps checks from the person who abused their child? Wouldn't that incriminate the parents for prostitution?

And what predator would pay someone off with a check thats traceable?? You do that kinda shit with cash.

People don't even use common sense when it comes to MJ. They just believe whatever BS is put in front of them.
 
Arckangel said:
Yes. There are two Arvizo brothers who accused MJ, and there are also Michael Jacobshagen and Orlando Brown. Including Francia, that would be 13 total. Michael Jacobshagen and Orlando Brown are not credible, but neither are the other eleven.
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WTF! You added new fake accusers to the list of false accusers??

I find your post highly suspect.

If you're going to include people like orlando brown (who never even met Michael) and Jacobshagen (who met him 1 time with dozens of other adults and kids around) why didn't you include all the billie jeans, and other women like Michelle Flowers who accused him of Rape. Why didn't you include Jane doe?

Only bringing up the boys huh? sounding like a real guilter. Not going to lie. It's very suspect.
 
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Blues_Away2023 said:
Tbh I’m sure the 10 includes Chandler , Robson, Safechuck and Arvizo. So both pre and posthumous. The 5 is supposed to be all the Cascio kids , was there 5 of them?

It’s all very confusing to me. Someone on here should be able to clarify exactly who and what.

The Cascio case screams nothing but a total scam.
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Can you all please stop saying there are 5 new accusers or that the Cascios made accusations.

That's not True even you believe the financial times article, at most Some of them THREATENED to make accusations. There's a big difference. No actual allegations have been made yet.

And according to the story it was never all 5 of them threatening to make allegations it was "some" of the 5, and then the story was that just 1 of them came back to demand more money.

I swear "fans" often do the guilters dirty work for them.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
Apparently they mentioned about a pay off to a girl in the late 80s?

Don’t think I’ve heard of this one before. Does anyone have knowledge of this or like the others , it’s made up crap?
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The guilter cult has been spreading lies about imaginary Pay offs since the original 1993 fiasco. But they never explain why Michael would make secret payoffs before 1993 and then NOT pay off Evan Chandler in secret when he had the chance.

Logic just flys right out the windows with the guilters.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
This Jane Doe character, I’m so curious about this one.

Alleged abuse in the mid 80’s, cheques made out in her name etc, what were these for? Does anyone know?
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This is the complaint she made. It's worth noting that this was the same lawyer that was representing the current two and tries to push the same nonsense narrative about the companies. Be aware that it makes for graphic reading.

www.docdroid.net

CombinedComplaint.pdf

View and download CombinedComplaint.pdf on DocDroid
www.docdroid.net www.docdroid.net

Here are the cheques, notes and other relevant bits of 'evidence' that were submitted, including a photo of her that is blacked out. It's difficult to know for sure who it is.

https://imgur.com/a/fKoVtQE
 
LiveItOffTheWall said:
Isn't a central argument of all the guilters that he was exclusively into prepubescent boys? Obviously, that falls apart when JS had to change his story to him being abused until he was 16 in order to make his train station story possible. Also, this is the 1st I'm hearing of a girl. Does Jane Doe = a member of the Cascio family?
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Fictional predator Michael changes to be whoever these charlatans need at the moment. One minute he's exclusively into "little boys" and dumps them when they hit puberty, the next minute he's into boys and and girls. Then he's also into 19 year old Brett. According to the guilters and haters he's gay, and also a girl and boy pedo and also asexual! All at once!

And on top of all that. according to Wade he was also obsessed with 20 year old fully sexually mature Britney Spears as well. So I guess he was just a pansexual who went after anything with a pulse.
 
StellaJackson said:
This is the complaint she made. It's worth noting that this was the same lawyer that was representing the current two and tries to push the same nonsense narrative about the companies. Be aware that it makes for graphic reading.

www.docdroid.net

CombinedComplaint.pdf

View and download CombinedComplaint.pdf on DocDroid
www.docdroid.net www.docdroid.net

Here are the cheques, notes and other relevant bits of 'evidence' that were submitted, including a photo of her that is blacked out. It's difficult to know for sure who it is.

https://imgur.com/a/fKoVtQE
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That is the most lackluster "evidence" I've ever seen. These people really think that mundane memos and notes that Michael sent to literally EVERYONE around him are some kind of smoking gun evidence that their ridiculous sex stories are true.

The fact that Wade and James and their backers dropped Jane Doe and never brings her up tells you everything you need to know. They know she messes up the classic guilter narrative of "little boyzzz!!" and they also know that the nambla type pedos who make up most of their supporters don't want to hear anything about her because she's a girl.

As for those checks. If they are real (which I highly doubt) there are loads of explanations for them, for starters they might not even be hers. She could have been paid for doing an actual legitimate job like being in a commerical or an ad campaign or something. It might have been for charity. We don't know because for some insane reason she is allowed to hide her identity. Which means she can say and claim anything and not be challenged. Hell she might not even exist at all.

The whole thing is just a sham. And in a just world all these people would be rotting in jail right now.
 
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kelley said:
Fictional predator Michael changes to be whoever these charlatans need at the moment. One minute he's exclusively into "little boys" and dumps them when they hit puberty, the next minute he's into boys and and girls. Then he's also into 19 year old Brett. According to the guilters and haters he's gay, and also a girl and boy pedo and also asexual! All at once!

And on top of all that. according to Wade he was also obsessed with 20 year old fully sexually mature Britney Spears as well. So I guess he was just a pansexual who went after anything with a pulse.
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Sounds more like they're describing Diddy actually.
 
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