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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

beltrano said:
Mick Jagger in the Michael biopic !!

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Bill Bottrell's comments on this:

Jagger was an insignificant blip in Michael's career and music.
This seems like pandering.

It's hard to keep the vision simple and pure during a long, complex process where art meets technical.
Not many can keep it together.

I hope nobody is making it even harder by losing faith and resorting to pandering. But it happens all the time.

Michael's life and work got a lot more interesting when he matured and took control.




OK here's what I mean: Ok so you wanna write a sub plot about SOS. Ok the story is MJ loved Freddy and some of you here probably know more than me how he reached out and then Freddy comes to the house and they jammed out this banger that sounds like the whole roof is gonna catch fire and they're laughing and rocking on the tape.

Then the drama comes when Epic sits at a conference table and blah blah blah well, we'd better make Michael use Mick 'cause we own him, not Freddy, so... bla blah.

So they try to r- record the whole thing and you just can't replicate the sheer juice MJ and Freddy had that one day, but damn they're gonna def make it better and promote Mick off of Michael too!

the scene ends with MJ dejectedly walking out the studio door with his head down and Mick doing the same out the other side.
 
I don't think Mick Jagger's appearance in the biopic is that unimportant. I can imagine that the collaboration influenced the harder, tougher sound that you'll hear a few more years later on Bad.
 
Fuzball said:
The "new, harder sound" that you'll hear on Bad did already exist when Jagger's joined MJ on SoS in spring of 1984.
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could be true, because Abortion Papers was recorded during the Victory sessions (late 1983 - early 1984)

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Also, I have found the multitrack sheets of some of the songs from the Bad album on which Bruce Swedien has written dates of when particular instruments (including vocals and Background vocals) have been recorded.(Sorry for posting two posts in a row). Liberian Girl: Lead vocal: September...
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Its seem to be a Black Lives Matter Film (j5, otw, Thriller Little Bit Bad and maybe dangerous era)
 
If they want to address the allegations, they should just use another case, not the Chandler one. There was gossip about Jimmy Safechuck in the late 1980s, and Maculauy Culkin in the early 1990s. They could also use the Jason Francia case; MJ settled with his family in 1995. Mentioning or referencing the Chandler case is asking for problems.
 
Spaceship said:
If they want to address the allegations, they should just use another case, not the Chandler one. There was gossip about Jimmy Safechuck in the late 1980s, and Maculauy Culkin in the early 1990s. They could also use the Jason Francia case; MJ settled with his family in 1995. Mentioning or referencing the Chandler case is asking for problems.
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Could they not use the Arvizo case and trial? Aside from the Chandler case, I couldn't think of a better way to tackle the allegations. I mean it was the Arvizo case that proved his innocence in a court of law. Regarding the allegations, having the last scene being him walking out of court after being declared not guilty is the perfect ending IMO.
 
nextbigthing56 said:
having the last scene being him walking out of court after being declared not guilty is the perfect ending IMO.
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In theory yes, but having recently seen the footage of MJ leaving victorious from the courthouse, (aside from the fan celebrations) there really was nothing triumphant about it, he looked absolutely traumatised leaving that courthouse.
 
jasmine.uddin said:
In theory yes, but having recently seen the footage of MJ leaving victorious from the courthouse, (aside from the fan celebrations) there really was nothing triumphant about it, he looked absolutely traumatised leaving that courthouse.
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It shouldn't be seen as a triumphant moment though. By the way, I don't mean this should be the final scene in the movie, only the final scene regarding the allegations.
 
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I'm curious to see what they make of it in the biopic:
While Jagger should be grateful to Jackson for asking him to collaborate, his experience of the recording session was a memory he’d rather forget. Speaking to the New York Times, The Stones singer recounted: “He had the two of us practice scales for two hours and then we recorded the vocals in two takes.

“When he sent the finished track to me later I was kind of disappointed in the production and the mix. But I think he’s a really good singer,” Jagger added.

According to Mick: The Wild Life and Mad Genius of Jagger by Christopher Andersen, Jackson also shared similar feelings of discontent towards the project. He wrote: “As for the collaboration itself, neither star was impressed with the other. Jackson accused Jagger of singing off-key (‘How did he ever get to be a star’).”
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faroutmagazine.co.uk

Why Mick Jagger is indebted to Michael Jackson

How Michael Jackson gifted Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger with the highest-charting solo single of his career when they worked together in 1984.
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🧚‍♀️I ONLY pray and hope that all the films/books/tributes they make about Michael in the future are all the TRUTH and not what PC people want to view the traumatizing of an innocent and honest angel to validate themselves!
Everyone knows that playing this FALSE ACCUSATION TRASH out of a courtroom is flat out wrong and the problem with this type of allegations when the real victim is clearly innocent and they blantantly telling lies so people believe their lies should be A CRIMINAL OFFENCE to admit to PRE-MEDITATING, and PLANNING OUT CAREFULLY to make someone look guilty for MONEY is EXTORTION and it is a CRIME but apparently ONLY when it is about Michael Jackson and his millions, they can bend, break, stretch, bribe, payout, pay off anyone including the legal system as they see fit!!

It doesn't matter what they try to do they will die miserable FAILURES just like Tom S and the entire LA PD , FBI, LA COUNTY SHERIFFS al failed and the tax payers paid for it!.... 🙀
They have forgotten about US his L.O.V.E A.R.M.Y and we will be PRESENT and ACCOUNTED FOR if they want to attack him anywhere for the rest of our lives then it is a WAR they will surely get!
And we will teach our children how to defend and fight for him into the generations and genertaions to come and we will be their BLINDSIDE every single time!! We will take over them and their comfortable places once they are replaced by Michael's Army of Love, they don't even know US at all oooh but they will!!

Let us not forget a very important factor here, that all those leeches and press suckers will become irrelivent and pass away and WE MJ lovers will replace them and there will be no more haters once they are gone like T.S. died a failure in life and an embarassment to his profession as a defender of the law! We will see the day when there will never be any other FINANCIAL FALIURES that need a big pay out that only attacking Michael could ever bring them!!

😤😤😤So sorry to go off topic here, I just get so so enraged just thinking about these lowlifes and how our Angel had to defend himself against the garbage and trash that never did anything in their lives for anyone but themselves compared to Michael his entire life!
👉I won't go off topic here again I am so sorry my anger slipped out HUGS!!

I AM ALWAYS READY FOR SOME IDIOT TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID ABOUT MY ANGEL!! I AM READY FOR THEM WITH A SMILE!! 💯

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Fuzball said:
Bill Bottrell's comments on this:

Jagger was an insignificant blip in Michael's career and music.
This seems like pandering.

It's hard to keep the vision simple and pure during a long, complex process where art meets technical.
Not many can keep it together.

I hope nobody is making it even harder by losing faith and resorting to pandering. But it happens all the time.

Michael's life and work got a lot more interesting when he matured and took control.




OK here's what I mean: Ok so you wanna write a sub plot about SOS. Ok the story is MJ loved Freddy and some of you here probably know more than me how he reached out and then Freddy comes to the house and they jammed out this banger that sounds like the whole roof is gonna catch fire and they're laughing and rocking on the tape.

Then the drama comes when Epic sits at a conference table and blah blah blah well, we'd better make Michael use Mick 'cause we own him, not Freddy, so... bla blah.

So they try to r- record the whole thing and you just can't replicate the sheer juice MJ and Freddy had that one day, but damn they're gonna def make it better and promote Mick off of Michael too!

the scene ends with MJ dejectedly walking out the studio door with his head down and Mick doing the same out the other side.
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Bill Bottrell = pure Gold
 
kelley said:
Michael's life was interesting enough without the need to add in people like jagger and Freddy Mercury. Michael is bigger than both of them.

I'll be pissed if the movie is filled with celebrity castings
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The thing is, IF you have the feeling it's necessary to ad an encounter or collaboration to your story, ad a significant one.
There were way more significant collabs than Mick Jagger.
 
Fuzball said:
The "new, harder sound" that you'll hear on Bad did already exist when Jagger's joined MJ on SoS in spring of 1984.
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Especially when the song the storyline is build around, is a collaboration between MJ and a whole other artist (Freddie).
Jagger brought nothing new to it other than standing in for Freddie vocally.

The "new harder" rockier sound was already on "Beat It".
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Especially when the song the storyline is build around, is a collaboration between MJ and a whole other artist (Freddie).
Jagger brought nothing new to it other than standing in for Freddie vocally.

The "new harder" rockier sound was already on "Beat It".
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so funny mj ( Jagger he sing flat)!!!
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Especially when the song the storyline is build around, is a collaboration between MJ and a whole other artist (Freddie).
Jagger brought nothing new to it other than standing in for Freddie vocally.

The "new harder" rockier sound was already on "Beat It".
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State of Shock dates back to early 1982(!). Just checked the album credits where Brent Averill's given engineering credits for the original 16 track recording. He did work with Michael in early 1982. Afaik, he did not work with MJ in 1983/4.
 
Hot_Street said:
I would find it much more interesting if the session with Llama Louie and Mercury were included in the biopic instead of Jagger. That would have charm.
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And also Another One Bites The Dust playing with MJ saying "you should release it as a single" and Freddie like "you sure? doesnt seem like single material" or somthing along the lines :)
 
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