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Now that Dangerous MoFi is back in stock, does anyone know if the sound imbalance on tracks such as Jam have been corrected?
 
Niteline said:
Now that Dangerous MoFi is back in stock, does anyone know if the sound imbalance on tracks such as Jam have been corrected?
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It was never considered an error by MoFi, so no. They released the album exactly as they intended, they said.
 
Niteline said:
Now that Dangerous MoFi is back in stock, does anyone know if the sound imbalance on tracks such as Jam have been corrected?
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They haven't fixed them and don't intend to do so as according to them, the original master tapes were like this, which is in fact true but has been corrected for the original release. Will You Be There was also falsely transferred with Dolby Noise Reduction enabled.
 
mjfp said:
They haven't fixed them and don't intend to do so as according to them, the original master tapes were like this, which is in fact true but has been corrected for the original release. Will You Be There was also falsely transferred with Dolby Noise Reduction enabled.
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Not sure whether to buy it or not now.
 
Niteline said:
Not sure whether to buy it or not now.
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the original 91 sounds far surperior, the only thing that makes it „worth it“ is the dynamic range but due to the balance and transfer issues it‘s not really great
 
mjfp said:
the original 91 sounds far surperior, the only thing that makes it „worth it“ is the dynamic range but due to the balance and transfer issues it‘s not really great
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I agree, especially the NJS songs lose their "edge". Those songs were supposed to sound noisy and hard hitting. Jam sounds incredibly muted in energy.

I do enjoy it as an alternate listen, though and there are some things that are clearer but nothing will top the OG.
 
katara said:
I hope both HIStory and Invincible are re-released. They deserve it. BOTDF too, but I don't see that happening.
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HIStory (3x33), BOTDF, Invincible 2x33 - SuperVinyl/SACD
Bad - 2x45 OneStep Vinyl/SACD

Bad is up next
 
Fuzball said:
Since History is a semi GH album, an April release would make sense. Just in time when the biopic hits theaters.
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it includes tracks from the Bad album tho, therefore it makes more sense to release Bad before HIStory
 
Fuzball said:
Since History is a semi GH album, an April release would make sense. Just in time when the biopic hits theaters.
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I'm 99% sure HIStory will just be "HIStory Continues" without the Greatest Hits part.
It would be pointless for MoFi to do the greatest hits section, since it's just an objectively bad sounding GH compilation, why would you "improve" a greatest hits that sounds horrible when you've already fixed the original tracks in the past? And considering that... then MoFi could just re-use their own remastered tracks for the compilation right?
Well, that's not what MoFi does at all, so that's not option either.
Not to mention, including the GH comp would make the price on HIStory sky-rocket for no reason.
 
Fuzball said:
This is up to Epic Records. If they says "no", then MoFi has to release a 3LP/2CD set.
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Again, 99% sure if that's the case, there will be no LP, only a 2 CD set.
It would be too expensive otherwise.
 
NeoGardiV12 said:
I'm 99% sure HIStory will just be "HIStory Continues" without the Greatest Hits part.
It would be pointless for MoFi to do the greatest hits section, since it's just an objectively bad sounding GH compilation, why would you "improve" a greatest hits that sounds horrible when you've already fixed the original tracks in the past? And considering that... then MoFi could just re-use their own remastered tracks for the compilation right?
Well, that's not what MoFi does at all, so that's not option either.
Not to mention, including the GH comp would make the price on HIStory sky-rocket for no reason.
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Have full confirmation that‘ll be 3LP/2SACD releases
 
NeoGardiV12 said:
Not to mention, including the GH comp would make the price on HIStory sky-rocket for no reason.
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Indeed. I think the original was a triple vinyl, but I pity the fools who would want a MoFi version, because, as you say, it would run into the hundreds of dollars, lol. Complete waste of time, money and plastic.

Fuzball said:
This is up to Epic Records. If they says "no", then MoFi has to release a 3LP/2CD set.
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Why? HIStory Continues already had a standalone release at least once.
 
I think everyone here doesn‘t know that HIStory won‘t be released as a One-Step but as a standard Vinyl by MoFi, same as Dangerous, Blood and Invincible

$59,99 for Blood and Invincible, $119,99 for HIStory and $125 for Bad

a mint HIStory and Blood costs around 450, Invincible 250 for comparison
 
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I sent an email to MOFI (MFSL : Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab) to request some explanations. After exchanges, Bridget Citro Davis (COO & Co-owner) put me in touch with Krieg Wunderlich.
I would like to thank Krieg Wunderlich for his warm welcome and the time he devoted to our discussion.

We had a very interesting and insightful discussion regarding the issues observed on the SACD. Krieg Wunderlich told me that he handled the mastering work for the vinyl (LP) version. We discussed his working method, particularly how he ensures proper channel balance so that the lead vocal is centered, as well as the possibility of subtly enhancing the vocal presence through fine EQ adjustments.


Regarding the diversity of masters used, Krieg Wunderlich explained that this was due to the album being mixed in different studios. For the Dangerous album, first-generation masters were used. All master tapes were transferred to DSD256 in order to capture the full detail of the original recordings and to deliver the most faithful possible reproduction of the master on both LP and SACD formats. The same master was used for both releases.


As for the issue observed on the SACD, it is not present on the vinyl version. We discussed several possible causes for the difference between the two version which is particularly noticeable on “Jam” and “Why You Wanna Trip on Me”, such as a damaged tape or a misalignment of the tape heads during the transfer of the ½” / 30 IPS analog master tape with Dolby SR noise reduction. However, we cannot draw any conclusions without more information.


Krieg Wunderlich specifies that the SACD is in fact more true to the master tape than the LP, and both were approved by representatives of the Michael Jackson estate and Sony. The decision of whether to more precisely match the master tape or to make changes is an aesthetic one.


Krieg Wunderlich also mentioned that he did not work on the SACD, and that it would be necessary to speak with the person who did the mastering in order to clarify the difference between the SACD and the vinyl.

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