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Dangerous Short Films are currently being upscaled to 4K on YouTube!

I still say upscaling the visuals is missing the point. I don't care about that. Leave it until 2035 when the software is even better and you can get 32K resolution instead of 4K.

Much more important is to record the audio for a director's commentary. This needs to be done soon, before everybody dies.

Upscaling isn't nearly as important or as urgent.

Galactus123 said:
I'm glad they aren't changing aspect ratios. The directors framed them that way.
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This. I don't want them to change anything.
 
R1chard said:
I still say upscaling the visuals is missing the point. I don't care about that. Leave it until 2035 when the software is even better and you can get 32K resolution instead of 4K.
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If you talk about scanning 35mm film then 8K is really the top I think. Maybe even 6K. You can scan it but you probably wouldn't get more detail. Also they fade and can get damaged over time.
 
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I won’t click on the YouTube link.
And I’ll say it again… stop buying anything from the estate. You can only change them that way.. they won’t change just because you send them mass emails. You need to get them where it hurts. And that’s money.
 
kai said:
I won’t click on the YouTube link.
And I’ll say it again… stop buying anything from the estate. You can only change them that way.. they won’t change just because you send them mass emails. You need to get them where it hurts. And that’s money.
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I didn't think ppl actually bought that cheap ass bs they try to sell
 
Galactus123 said:
Also they fade and can get damaged over time.
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Sure they can. But otherwise, unless they get lost, the reels will always be there. The directors won't be.

Bruce Gowers died in 2023. Colin Chilvers died in 2024. One by one we're losing the chance to get director's commentary for all those videos.

With trying to improve the picture quality, we're at the point of diminishing returns. And really, it's just not necessary. Far better for the estate to do something worthwhile like rounding up all those directors and giving them a microphone for 15 minutes.

I'd happily buy Number Ones again to get commentaries. But otherwise, I will definitely never buy another MJ release for the rest of my life.
 
I don't think restoring music videos into 4K is a good way to make money, if that is the goal. To save the footage before the sources deteriorate into nothing, would have to be the reason. Most music videos of the 1980s & 1990s were edited on videotape (or filmed that way with late 1970s & early 1980s videos). People in general don't buy physical media as it is and the numbers get less every year. Some people still buy DVDs (of movies/TV), records, & tapes. But music video compilations were most popular in the VHS era. They're not really much of a thing today. People can watch music videos on Youtube for free, and Youtube is not the best video quality anyway. Or they watch other people watching them (reaction videos). Even with audio music, most people today stream it, and the companies like Spotify, Apple, Facebook, Youtube, etc. pay little if anything to the artist, even if they get a billion streams. That's the reason Prince did not allow his music on any of those places when he was alive, except with Tidal, in which he made a deal personally with Jay-Z. Now they're filling up with AI songs and artists that they don't have to pay anything to.
 
DuranDuran said:
I don't think restoring music videos into 4K is a good way to make money, if that is the goal. To save the footage before the sources deteriorate into nothing, would have to be the reason. Most music videos of the 1980s & 1990s were edited on videotape (or filmed that way with late 1970s & early 1980s videos). People in general don't buy physical media as it is and the numbers get less every year. Some people still buy DVDs (of movies/TV), records, & tapes. But music video compilations were most popular in the VHS era. They're not really much of a thing today. People can watch music videos on Youtube for free, and Youtube is not the best video quality anyway. Or they watch other people watching them (reaction videos). Even with audio music, most people today stream it, and the companies like Spotify, Apple, Facebook, Youtube, etc. pay little if anything to the artist, even if they get a billion streams. That's the reason Prince did not allow his music on any of those places when he was alive, except with Tidal, in which he made a deal personally with Jay-Z. Now they're filling up with AI songs and artists that they don't have to pay anything to.
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It's not a good way to directly make money (although I think you can earn some with YouTube) but it can definitely influence people buying stuff (whatever that may be). Especially after the Biopic there will be new fans/people who are interested in his short films. And when they only get toaster-quality the probability is high that they will lose interest. Or the other way around: if the quality is decent, it's more likely they will watch it more often and share the content. That's marketing and makes it easier to sell... whatever people are buying atm. T-shirts? Dunno 😛
 
DuranDuran said:
I don't think restoring music videos into 4K is a good way to make money, if that is the goal. To save the footage before the sources deteriorate into nothing, would have to be the reason. Most music videos of the 1980s & 1990s were edited on videotape (or filmed that way with late 1970s & early 1980s videos). People in general don't buy physical media as it is and the numbers get less every year. Some people still buy DVDs (of movies/TV), records, & tapes. But music video compilations were most popular in the VHS era. They're not really much of a thing today. People can watch music videos on Youtube for free, and Youtube is not the best video quality anyway. Or they watch other people watching them (reaction videos). Even with audio music, most people today stream it, and the companies like Spotify, Apple, Facebook, Youtube, etc. pay little if anything to the artist, even if they get a billion streams. That's the reason Prince did not allow his music on any of those places when he was alive, except with Tidal, in which he made a deal personally with Jay-Z. Now they're filling up with AI songs and artists that they don't have to pay anything to.
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Youtube is a good way to make them available. Many bands and artist have done it. George Michael's Careless Whisper and many old Linkin Park videos look amazing in 4K. I think seeing the videos in great quality can make new fans. There might be some kids who are more interested watching them if they look like they were filmed today. With film that is possible.
 
Galactus123 said:
Youtube is a good way to make them available. Many bands and artist have done it. George Michael's Careless Whisper and many old Linkin Park videos look amazing in 4K. I think seeing the videos in great quality can make new fans. There might be some kids who are more interested watching them if they look like they were filmed today. With film that is possible.
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If they're watching on a phone, I don't think it makes that much of a difference, mainly if they're watching on a TV or monitor. Most of the videos (of anything) on Youtube are not 4K. 4K on Youtube doesn't necessarily mean anything. There's a lot of videos that people have uploaded on Youtube (from 5th generation videotape, lol) has a 4K. I've seen 360p videos that look better. I Want You Back has over 83 million views and The Ed Sullivan Show was shot on video, not film. So What by Miles Davis is over 31 million and it is in 480 (also black & white from 1959), and he's jazz, which in general is not really a popular genre with the mainstream today. There's also audio only videos where the video quality doesn't really matter that has lots of views. I think people watch mainly because they become aware of the music or they're promoted someway elsewhere like Fleetwood Mac & Kate Bush. September by Earth Wind & Fire is a meme. Rick Astley's career was resurrected with Rickrolling. A lot of younger people get exposed to songs with TikTok which often doesn't even have the entire song, just snippets. And it's background music to people doing stuff, it's not the music video. Dreams by Fleetwood Mac was in a video of a guy skateboarding that went viral and re-entered the Top 10 singles chart. Like every year very old Christmas recordings reach the top 10 in Billboard, & many don't have music videos, or a current lyric video is made for them.
 
There's also the case that DVD still outsells Blu-ray & 4K discs put together. 4K sells the least. Most of the sales of 4K comes from modern blockbusters like the MCU.
 
Galactus123 said:
Youtube is a good way to make them available. Many bands and artist have done it. George Michael's Careless Whisper and many old Linkin Park videos look amazing in 4K. I think seeing the videos in great quality can make new fans. There might be some kids who are more interested watching them if they look like they were filmed today. With film that is possible.
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Stumbled across David Bowie's 1997 "I'm Afraid of Americans" the other day, and died a little inside thinking how good Michael's stuff could look if the resources were spent properly remastering it. If only we had an Estate like Bowie's, Prince's, Queen's, Elvis', etc:
Like you said, if the Estate wants to maximize Michael's relevancy with younger generations, they need his short films to look (as close as technically possible) like they could have been shot yesterday; they're relegating his work to a dated era instead of maintaining its true relevancy with remasters like this.
 
CodaBroda said:
Stumbled across David Bowie's 1997 "I'm Afraid of Americans" the other day, and died a little inside thinking how good Michael's stuff could look if the resources were spent properly remastering it. If only we had an Estate like Bowie's, Prince's, Queen's, Elvis', etc:
Like you said, if the Estate wants to maximize Michael's relevancy with younger generations, they need his short films to look (as close as technically possible) like they could have been shot yesterday; they're relegating his work to a dated era instead of maintaining its true relevancy with remasters like this.
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This is how I want my MJ short films to look like, that’s absolutely perfect! Just imagine seeing Bad, Stranger in Moscow or TDCAU in that quality! One can only hope at this point😪
 
CodaBroda said:
Stumbled across David Bowie's 1997 "I'm Afraid of Americans" the other day, and died a little inside thinking how good Michael's stuff could look if the resources were spent properly remastering it. If only we had an Estate like Bowie's, Prince's, Queen's, Elvis', etc:
Like you said, if the Estate wants to maximize Michael's relevancy with younger generations, they need his short films to look (as close as technically possible) like they could have been shot yesterday; they're relegating his work to a dated era instead of maintaining its true relevancy with remasters like this.
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I was kinda floored when I first saw this remaster. So well done.
 
CodaBroda said:
Stumbled across David Bowie's 1997 "I'm Afraid of Americans" the other day, and died a little inside thinking how good Michael's stuff could look if the resources were spent properly remastering it. If only we had an Estate like Bowie's, Prince's, Queen's, Elvis', etc:
Like you said, if the Estate wants to maximize Michael's relevancy with younger generations, they need his short films to look (as close as technically possible) like they could have been shot yesterday; they're relegating his work to a dated era instead of maintaining its true relevancy with remasters like this.
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I would assume that was 2014, but it’s probably from the 90s.

Not even the actual 4K Remasters look that good. Not even This Is It in actual HD or the Munich looks that well shot. That’s an incredibly well done video.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Eu presumiria que fosse de 2014, mas provavelmente é da década de 90.

Nem mesmo as remasterizações em 4K originais têm uma qualidade tão boa. Nem mesmo "This Is It" em HD ou o documentário de Munique têm uma qualidade de imagem tão boa. É um vídeo extremamente bem feito.
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It's unbelievable that This Is It, which was digitally recorded in HD (or 4K according to some rumors), was posted on YouTube in 480p.
 
CodaBroda said:
Me deparei com "I'm Afraid of Americans" do David Bowie, de 1997, outro dia, e fiquei com uma pontada de tristeza ao pensar em como as músicas do Michael poderiam ficar incríveis se os recursos fossem investidos na remasterização adequada. Quem dera tivéssemos um espólio como o do Bowie, do Prince, do Queen, do Elvis, etc.
Como você disse, se o espólio quiser maximizar a relevância de Michael para as gerações mais jovens, precisa que seus curtas-metragens pareçam (o mais próximo possível tecnicamente) como se tivessem sido filmados ontem; estão relegando seu trabalho a uma era ultrapassada em vez de manter sua verdadeira relevância com remasterizações como esta.
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But Queen still has Brian May and Roger Taylor to decide. Although most of the videos from the album The Miracle were upscaled, the one for I Want It All looks incredible in true 2K/QHD.
 
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