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Elephant in the room.

I stopped giving a shit about anybody who believes that BS when I was around 15. Why waste your time arguing? You'll only upset yourself. Being photographed with a person does not mean you're best friends or do everything that they do.

Didn't they only meet one time, when Mike was house hunting? People will see what they want to see.
 
webslinger said:
well maybe not argue but just put the information out there, let it speak for itself. yeah mike was just looking for properties to buy and epstein happened to be someone selling one. they never met again after that, and a victim even said mj didn’t do anything
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Exactly. People will believe what they want but there really isn't anything scandalous here at all. As you said, let's not waste our time arguing with people. Instead, just post the truth and keep it moving.
 
He has been at his house in Palm Beach Florida, and then on the plane to Africa with Chris Tucker, Bill Clinton, so he has met him two times at least. That seems to be facts.
 
mysterygirl7 said:
He has been at his house in Palm Beach Florida, and then on the plane to Africa with Chris Tucker, Bill Clinton, so he has met him two times at least. That seems to be facts.
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i don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest michael ever spent time with epstein outside of the thing in florida. the picture with bill clinton was in washington dc and technically has absolutely nothing to do with epstein.
 
webslinger said:
i don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest michael ever spent time with epstein outside of the thing in florida. the picture with bill clinton was in washington dc and technically has absolutely nothing to do with epstein.
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I think it was Chris Tucker, who was more connected to Epstein.
 
Unfortunately, MJ had questionable people around him that he realised quickly that they couldn’t be trusted. One is Brett Ratner, who he cut ties with. I think Brett introduced him to those circles regarding finance and estate.
 
Surprisingly, the general response to this seems to be “this proves nothing.” I think people are more focused on the political element of the files.

Not saying it doesn’t matter, but thankfully this wasn’t as much of a nightmare as I expected.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Surprisingly, the general response to this seems to be “this proves nothing.” I think people are more focused on the political element of the files.

Not saying it doesn’t matter, but thankfully this wasn’t as much of a nightmare as I expected.
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i’m seeing different takes. i’ve explained the facts in some instagram comments and have been getting a ton of likes. i’ve also seen good posts from fan accounts. i’m hoping this stays a blip in this whole circus.
 
Epstein had a lot of celebrity friends and acquaintances and was around powerful people for large chunks of his life - it’s no surprise to see the he crossed paths with Michael on a few occasions.

That’s literally it…..

Considering all the horrendous stuff pointed at MJ throughout the years , this is literally nothing.

Bill Clinton on the other hand 😬
 
I saw that photo of Michael, Bill Clinton and Diana Ross, but they blacked out Michael's and Diana's children, you can find that photo easily, they did a poor job trying to cover up... I knew that sorry-poor-excuse-of-a-45/47 would throw him under the bus... I knew that whole time Trump is not Michael's friend! This is nothing but another attempt to cover up the real monsters out there!

It was already out there that one of Epstein's victims said that Michael didn't do anything inappropriate. He was looking for property, took a picture, and that was that

I'm glad there wasn't any much of a nightmare, we've had more than enough of that!

Bill Clinton? Yeah, after the Monica Lewinsky affair... yeah...
 
As usual, when you look at the facts, MJ did nothing wrong. It's just annoying that we have to even explain. Yes, on its face it isn't a good look (and we can add Epstein to the long list of people Mike should have never met).

I think its just another sad distraction from the real pervs in the files. (Especially the one who was selling condoms with his name on it at the epstein properties..)
 
:unsure:I am not sure why you think we are not all out here doing just that defending Michael DAILY, the question is not what WE are doing it is about what the HATERS won't STOP doing what they love doing no matter what WE DO!
You will never stop them nor should we waste our energy trying to change others minds when they make their own scummy choices!

LIVE TO LOVE and FIGHT FOR MJ :love: just my own thought here of course!!

😘 👑 🧚‍♀️
 
AlwaysThere said:
Surprisingly, the general response to this seems to be “this proves nothing.” I think people are more focused on the political element of the files.

Not saying it doesn’t matter, but thankfully this wasn’t as much of a nightmare as I expected.
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its quite bad on twitter, people seem to be going off with the "Michael Jackson's legacy is offically over" which is what they said in 1993. 2003, 2019 and now 2025 lol. It's just getting embarrassing at this point, when will people learn.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
As usual, when you look at the facts, MJ did nothing wrong. It's just annoying that we have to even explain. Yes, on its face it isn't a good look (and we can add Epstein to the long list of people Mike should have never met).

I think its just another sad distraction from the real pervs in the files. (Especially the one who was selling condoms with his name on it at the epstein properties..)
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another thing about it is those photos aren't even new, they've been around for ages and can be found in articles published over 15 years ago. The timing of them resurfacing is very strange, like they wanted to deflect from the fact that the US president was best buds with epstien, and of course like usual, they turned to the most famous name of all time to do that.
 
ITSMEMICHAEL said:
another thing about it is those photos aren't even new, they've been around for ages and can be found in articles published over 15 years ago. The timing of them resurfacing is very strange, like they wanted to deflect from the fact that the US president was best buds with epstien, and of course like usual, they turned to the most famous name of all time to do that.
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Quite clearly a distraction, who else but the biggest star who ever lived. A real shame nothing has changed in media and they’d rather get clicks than report facts.
 
When Michael met Epstein, wasn't this years/ decades before Epstein even suspected of criminal wrongdoing? Michael may have been a celebrity with connections, but he wouldn’t know the dark secrets of other famous people. Just like R Kelly and P Diddy. Celebrities are people, too - they don’t know everything.
 
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