Well you can either have all that WITH a biopic to balance it with some positivity or you can have all that WITHOUT a biopic and nothing but negativity. Either way, haters are gonna hate, as they have been doing for decades, so who cares? Just ignore them and enjoy the biopic, like every generation of fans has always done and will continue on doing.
it's a very tone deaf approach to such a controversial figure, and it goes in favor of guilters only.
maybe. but some of us saw this as a rare opportunity to vindicate Michael. I don't care about going to theaters to sing along to Thriller, respectfully
Oh, I definitely get that. I wish there was a way for this to have been produced without the estate's involvement. That way, they wouldn't have been contractually obligated to cut out and reshoot so many scenes. I *still* think they can *touch* on the subject without going into great detail. I read the contract provided by another kind user (Thank you so much!), and I believe that they can sort of say "accusations of abuse". The term "abuse" is broad and can refer to various things, not just child m*lestati0n. We'll see. I am saddened that the reshoots happened and will forever wonder why Jordan doesn't come clean about what happened. He's an adult now, and as traumatic as the experience was for him, he can still do the right thing and clear this mess up.
They can still cover the 2005 trial in part 2 and that will go a long way to show Michael was a victim of false allegations.
I definitely get that too, it's bittersweet for me as well, tbh. I am both excited, and deeply saddened. I am coming to the sad realization that Michael, the human, will never ever be fully vindicated. Too many decades of slander, the LaToya fiasco that showcased a family member corroborating false allegations, the estate that hunts MJ's money, "friends" of Michael who turned against him when money ran out, opportunists everywhere, even Klein and Fiddes did MJ disservice after disservice back in the day with some of their false statements (which even after being properly debunked are still believed by some). Michael, the man, was surrounded by too many vultures and his image is still surrounded by them today. I think only Michael, the musical prodigy & legend, can be properly recognized today. In the words of Quincy Jones, "in 50 yeas, 70 years, 100 years from now, all that will be remembered about Michael Jackson is the music". This doesn't mean we should stop defending Michael, and I am glad to see more rebuttals made public by the day. I am very much looking forward to buying Jael Rucker's "How Come Nobody Ever Apologizes To Michael Jackson" book, her articles are incredibly well documented. The media no longer has the monopole over public opinion and I am sure that terrifies them to some degree. Maybe in a few decades things will be different, but for now, there are *still* too many opportunists surrounding Michael's name and image.
This! As far as I know, they only reshot the Chandler section. 2003-2005 will probably be represented and shown through Michael's perspective, the absurdity of that trial, along with all the inconsistencies and falsehoods propagated by the Arvizos. Hoping that at least this part will showcase a different narrative than what the media spouted back in the day.
how are they possibly going to make a 2nd movie when 1/3 of his kids likely don't want to be portrayed in the movie? they can't actually show MJ fight with Sony because now Sony owns MJ music? do you really think Priscilla Preasley will let a MJ biopic portray Lisa Marie?
MJ's fans have been the ones taking the brunt of it for a while. Forever, it seems. It's the fans that properly defend Michael and spread rebuttals everywhere. We also have people like Taj Jackson and Danny Wu helping out, the "Square One" documentary is exceptional, and "Michael Jackson: Chase The Truth" is also very well done, imo. I *had* hoped a statement of some kind would be made by MJ's estate regarding the Epstein fiasco, but as another user pointed out, given all the legal issues they're dealing with, they probably just wanted to let it die down and not attract too much attention to it? A statement would have gone a long way, but...this is the same estate that can't even clean up Michael's Spotify, Youtube and Instagram profiles. Prince's estate is much more hands-on. I know fans will have a lot on their hands even after the biopic, but...I think some good can still come of it. I also know that being a MJ fan sometimes does take a toll on you, or at least it does on me. I consider myself pretty well-balanced, and I don't take things personally when I know they're not even about me (being too fanatic lessens your credibility sometimes), and even so, at times I need to take a step back, all the negativity the media and the detractors project can certainly sour anyone's mood. I mean, at the end of the day, this biopic will probably be available on multiple streaming services, so if anyone wants to revisit it in the future, they can. I suspect there will be a lot of chaos in April, both good and bad.
Ohh, these are interesting points indeed! I do wonder about that! Given that Tommy Mottola has ceased to be Sony's CEO in 2003, and now runs Mottola Media Group, I know he collaborates with Sony only on specific projects. I think it depends on how much they focus on Sony as a whole or specifically on Mottola? I admit I haven't even given this much thought until now. Also, does Priscilla Presley even have a say in how Lisa Marie is portrayed? As far as I know, family members don't have a legal "say" in how relatives are portrayed in movies unless they own the rights or are involved in production. I could be wrong though, if anyone knows differently, please correct me, I do not want to spread misinformation.
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They need no permission to portray his kids, his sisters and brothers or LMP in the movie.
Paris never said she didn't want to be portrayed in the biopic, let's not make things up. She just doesn't want to be involved in the creative process because she feels like they're gonna do whatever they want to do regardless of her input. And given what she put in her complaint about the Estate, it seems that her problems with the biopic are related to John Branca's portrayal, not the allegations (unlike what guilters are trying to insinuate).
But that has nothing to do with the 2005 trial and they still have plenty of other things to cover (A LOT happened from 1990 to 2009), so it was always unlikely to be included anyway.
They don't need her permission.
If anyone wants to be messy this year, they will be with or without the biopic. There was no biopic in 2019, did that stop anyone? How could anyone seriously think that it would be better not to make a biopic and just let the lies be one-sided?
Perfect song for the biopic
Can you imagine if right before that they have him say those things from Conrad Murray's recording:
I couldn't think of a more powerful message to end the movie with. A message that is not just about Michael, but also to remember all the children who suffer in the world.
TBF I rarely see the 1998 complaint mentioned anywhere, and something I keep forgetting about.
That ending would absolutely make me cry alot. Its so sadCan you imagine if right before that they have him say those things from Conrad Murray's recording:
Michael: "I’m taking that money, I’m building a children… children’s hospital. The biggest in the world. Michael Jackson’s Children Hospital. Gonna have a movie theatre, game room. Children are depressed. They’re in those hospitals, no game room, no movie theatre. They’re sick because they’re depressed. Their mind is depressing them. I want to give them that. I care about them, them angels. God wants me to do it. God wants me to do it. I’m gonna do it, Conrad."
Conrad Murray: "I know you would."
Michael: "All we have is this hope, no more hope. That’s the next generation that’s gonna save our planet. I’m starting with… We’ll talk about it. In the United States, Europe, Prague… My babies…. They walk around with no mother. They dropped them off, they leave – a psychological degradation of that. And they reach out to me – please take me with you. I want to do that for them. I’m gonna do that for them. That will be remembered more than my performances. My performances will be up there helping my children, it’ll always be my dream. I love them. I love them because I didn’t have a childhood. I had no childhood. I feel their pain. I feel their hurt. I can deal with it. Heal The World, We Are The World, Will You Be There, The Lost Children. These are the songs I’ve written because I hurt, you know, I hurt.
Conrad Murray: "You okay?"
Michael: "I am asleep."
And then the song starts playing as he "falls asleep"... And remember what I told you ... And remember for all time... Please let me go... Please... Please... Please let me go...
Oh the heartache
It's not like he says anything in that recording that he hasn't said before or wouldn't have said if he hadn't been drugged. It actually shows that even drugged, that was where his heart truly was. If you want to convince skeptical people that he was not a pedophile, then showing how sincere he was even in a vulnerable state can be very effective. I don't find it exploitative, I find Michael's words were beautiful, and it would be a shame if people never heard them. I remember during the trial, the media only ever played the first part of the tape where he sounds drugged, but never the second part where he talks about children. It was almost like they didn't want the world to hear that beautiful side of him. (Gee, I wonder why?) When you read the transcript instead of listening to the tape, you can even forget he was drugged and truly pay attention to his words.
trust me, people who are either dead set about him being a pedophile or that simply want to believe he is one won't be moved by him saying anything while under the influence. people who can't be reasoned with hard facts, data, court case documents or just in general positive witness won't change their minds because Murray recorded Michael while in that awful state.
No, those people want him to be guilty. It's the general public that can be swayed by seeing this was who he truly was.
I don't know what Michael would want or would not want. He has often tried to be open and show his vulnerability, so who knows? At the end of the day, I think he would simply want the world to know he truly cared about children. That's what he wanted to be remembered for, as he says in that recording.
It was but it also shows just how messed up the whole situation was.Its a real complete shame that was one of the last things we heard him say and in that state so sad
Prince and Bigi are involved in the movie. I doubt they would want to relive those moments.I kinda hope they don't show anything related to his last days/weeks, the situation he was in etc. ...I agree it could be a great ending and would make people think about the whole situation but at the same time I really don't want to see that, especially not an a big movie screen
Thank you for sharing this!
So glad I don't own a tv and pay for the licence.
