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That's very sad news. Rest in peace, Bryan...
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Bryan Loren has passed away
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It's the Estate that sold fake songs. You can't expect much from them.
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"UNITED KINGDOM ā Bryan Loren, the producer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist behind some of Michael Jacksonās unreleased Dangerous material, has died at 58. His brother Geno confirmed it over the weekend. Considered a musical prodigy, Loren cut his teeth at Philadelphiaās Alpha International Studios on sessions for Rose Royce, Tavares, and Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes. His 1984 self-titled debut was entirely self-made. āLollipop Luvā peaked at #23 on the R&B charts. āDo You Really Love Me?ā charted for 17 weeks.
Additionally, Loren worked with Sting on āNothing Like the Sunā, wrote Whitney Houstonās āFeels So Goodā, and produced Vesta Williams hits like āSomething About Youā and āDonāt Blow a Good Thing.ā By the late 1980s, Loren was doing what Teddy Riley, another prominent Jackson collaborator, was doing: fusing funk, soul, and digital production into what became New Jack Swing. Riley got the commercial wins and public recognition, but Loren was part of that early wave."
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Additionally, Loren worked with Sting on āNothing Like the Sunā, wrote Whitney Houstonās āFeels So Goodā, and produced Vesta Williams hits like āSomething About Youā and āDonāt Blow a Good Thing.ā By the late 1980s, Loren was doing what Teddy Riley, another prominent Jackson collaborator, was doing: fusing funk, soul, and digital production into what became New Jack Swing. Riley got the commercial wins and public recognition, but Loren was part of that early wave."
Remembering Bryan Loren: Michael Jacksonās āDangerousā Era Collaborator
Decked Out Magazine honors the life and legacy of Bryan Loren. From 'Do The Bartman' to unreleased 'Dangerous' gems, we audit his pivotal role in Michael Jackson's 1990s sound.
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Bill elaborated om this statement
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Found this too, painful in hindsight
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I always like stories from Bill so posting that comment in full (from the one posted by @michaeljackson.nl )
"Oh yes. Brian and I have talked about it. Last time was prob 8 years ago.
We don't disagree on the change he made:I asked him to rap the lines I wrote.
Just to play for M.
He very much didn't want to do it but he tried
2nd to the last line he couldn't phrase well.
He shortened my line: "I'm staring at the moon and it just gets duller"
To: "I've seen the bright get duller"
I said "oh that works!"
But he really didn't want to do the rap for the demo
And he left, back to his room.
It's a good change, and I've always mentioned him in that regard. I also rapped my original line and maybe should have used it. He never brought it up again till 14 years later. At that time we still agreed on what he changed.
Brian was a team member for the Dangerous sessions. I'd bring him in to play on occasions like B or W synth bass, drum programming on Who is It. Prob other things that got cut. Important stuff. I always included him and paid from my budget. Gave him verbal and official credit in the press. But when his good songs got cut, (by M) that "team" thing didn't feel so good. (I assume)
But he got a solo record deal from Clive Davis before Dangerous was done, he rolled up in a nice Merc.
(speculation) Maybe M. felt betrayed? I was not involved, but Brian has been resentful ever since. Not to me though.
I offer this public story because your question implies Brian still talks about B or W."
"Oh yes. Brian and I have talked about it. Last time was prob 8 years ago.
We don't disagree on the change he made:I asked him to rap the lines I wrote.
Just to play for M.
He very much didn't want to do it but he tried
2nd to the last line he couldn't phrase well.
He shortened my line: "I'm staring at the moon and it just gets duller"
To: "I've seen the bright get duller"
I said "oh that works!"
But he really didn't want to do the rap for the demo
And he left, back to his room.
It's a good change, and I've always mentioned him in that regard. I also rapped my original line and maybe should have used it. He never brought it up again till 14 years later. At that time we still agreed on what he changed.
Brian was a team member for the Dangerous sessions. I'd bring him in to play on occasions like B or W synth bass, drum programming on Who is It. Prob other things that got cut. Important stuff. I always included him and paid from my budget. Gave him verbal and official credit in the press. But when his good songs got cut, (by M) that "team" thing didn't feel so good. (I assume)
But he got a solo record deal from Clive Davis before Dangerous was done, he rolled up in a nice Merc.
(speculation) Maybe M. felt betrayed? I was not involved, but Brian has been resentful ever since. Not to me though.
I offer this public story because your question implies Brian still talks about B or W."
