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Bryan Loren has passed away

"UNITED KINGDOM ā€” Bryan Loren, the producer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist behind some of Michael Jacksonā€™s unreleased Dangerous material, has died at 58. His brother Geno confirmed it over the weekend. Considered a musical prodigy, Loren cut his teeth at Philadelphiaā€™s Alpha International Studios on sessions for Rose Royce, Tavares, and Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes. His 1984 self-titled debut was entirely self-made. ā€œLollipop Luvā€ peaked at #23 on the R&B charts. ā€œDo You Really Love Me?ā€ charted for 17 weeks.

Additionally, Loren worked with Sting on ā€œNothing Like the Sunā€, wrote Whitney Houstonā€™s ā€œFeels So Goodā€, and produced Vesta Williams hits like ā€œSomething About Youā€ and ā€œDonā€™t Blow a Good Thing.ā€ By the late 1980s, Loren was doing what Teddy Riley, another prominent Jackson collaborator, was doing: fusing funk, soul, and digital production into what became New Jack Swing. Riley got the commercial wins and public recognition, but Loren was part of that early wave."


deckedoutmagazine.com

Remembering Bryan Loren: Michael Jacksonā€™s ā€˜Dangerousā€™ Era Collaborator

Decked Out Magazine honors the life and legacy of Bryan Loren. From 'Do The Bartman' to unreleased 'Dangerous' gems, we audit his pivotal role in Michael Jackson's 1990s sound.
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I always like stories from Bill so posting that comment in full (from the one posted by @michaeljackson.nl )

"Oh yes. Brian and I have talked about it. Last time was prob 8 years ago.
We don't disagree on the change he made:I asked him to rap the lines I wrote.
Just to play for M.
He very much didn't want to do it but he tried
2nd to the last line he couldn't phrase well.
He shortened my line: "I'm staring at the moon and it just gets duller"
To: "I've seen the bright get duller"
I said "oh that works!"
But he really didn't want to do the rap for the demo
And he left, back to his room.

It's a good change, and I've always mentioned him in that regard. I also rapped my original line and maybe should have used it. He never brought it up again till 14 years later. At that time we still agreed on what he changed.

Brian was a team member for the Dangerous sessions. I'd bring him in to play on occasions like B or W synth bass, drum programming on Who is It. Prob other things that got cut. Important stuff. I always included him and paid from my budget. Gave him verbal and official credit in the press. But when his good songs got cut, (by M) that "team" thing didn't feel so good. (I assume)

But he got a solo record deal from Clive Davis before Dangerous was done, he rolled up in a nice Merc.

(speculation) Maybe M. felt betrayed? I was not involved, but Brian has been resentful ever since. Not to me though.

I offer this public story because your question implies Brian still talks about B or W."
 
Beano Wild said:
when it came to loren, the estate wanted nothing to do with him professionally after the dangerous 25 talks, they went so bad that Karen said they'd never work with HIM specifically, meaning in a grotesque way, loren's passing means his work will be looked into.

That man knew his & his materials worth and took that worth to the grave, i hope to god whoever runs his estate keeps the same mindset.
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I was thinking about this and it doesn't make much sense for the Estate to not be interested by the material unless it's a negotiation tactic of course or Loren asking too much.

But is it possible they already have the rights to release the best/most complete Loren stuff? Since Dangerous SE CD2 was a thing. Or maybe CD2 was cancelled at the time because Loren already was too difficult to work with? After all, those tracks weren't used for TUC either (but Monkey Business was.)
 
So does that mean his meeting with the Estate was only about the work tapes he own because they don't have a copy of it? Can they release anything without asking the original producer(s) approval?

If not, they sent CD2 for mastering without having cleared the rights, which may be common practices I don't know.
 
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