The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[MsAshley]

First this is getting off topic.

Second I love PAC cuz he was young and bald and so am I. So not too much.

>young

ill give u on topic, check out this totally legit janet/michael duet snippet. very real: https://vocaroo.com/1cGOD1FsnCIL

 

[threepea11]

I'm assuming for the tracks that circulated in the 90s. She's Trouble was the updated demo that released on Thriller 40, Billie Jean is the version referred to as "Demo #2" (the one we have the multis for), and WBSS is that other demo with the alternate vocal take.

Yea, the released She's Trouble at least leaked on July 7th 2002, the one-take demo leaked sometime later on.

Also, what era is which for the WBSS demo from TII and the one that leaked in 2002? I can never seem to get a concrete answer.

 

[MsAshley]

Yea, the released She's Trouble at least leaked on July 7th 2002, the one-take demo leaked sometime later on.

Also, what era is which for the WBSS demo from TII and the one that leaked in 2002? I can never seem to get a concrete answer.

This Is It has the 1978 version according to wiki.

 

[Seldervi]

Yea, the released She's Trouble at least leaked on July 7th 2002, the one-take demo leaked sometime later on.

Also, what era is which for the WBSS demo from TII and the one that leaked in 2002? I can never seem to get a concrete answer.

The demo featured on This Is It is for sure the earliest demo, and it shares many of the same qualities as the demos for Don't Stop & Workin Day & Night from 1978. The second demo is very close to other Thriller demos, so I assume it's from 81 or 82.

ill give u on topic, check out this totally legit janet/michael duet snippet. very real: https://vocaroo.com/1cGOD1FsnCIL

I know this is an absolutely very real snippet (all Vocaroo snippets are after all, just look through this whole thread) but my immediate thought from hearing this was "this sounds like a remix of the YuYu Hakusho opening" lol

 

[MsAshley]

The demo featured on This Is It is for sure the earliest demo, and it shares many of the same qualities as the demos for Don't Stop & Workin Day & Night from 1978. The second demo is very close to other Thriller demos, so I assume it's from 81 or 82.


I know this is an absolutely very real snippet (all Vocaroo snippets are after all, just look through this whole thread) but my immediate thought from hearing this was "this sounds like a remix of the YuYu Hakusho opening" lol

its the very rare new jack janet mix of 微笑みの爆弾 uwu

 

[Fuzball]

These have been recently added to CMRRA database. Probably initiated by the estate of John Barnes. Michael's share has been mistakenly associated with Sony/Atv Publishing instead of Mijac.

Title: MAKE A BREAK

CMRRA Number: 00276822

CMRRA Total Claim% : 50.00

Author / Composer Details

	First Name​ Surname​ JOHN JOSEPH BARNES MICHAEL JACKSON ​

Publisher Details

	Publisher Name​ Represented​ BARNES BROTHERS MUSIC Yes SONY ATV HARMONY Yes Unknown Publisher (999990) Unknown ​

Alternative Titles

	Title​ MAKE OR BREAK ​

Performing Artist Details

	Band Name/Surname​ First Name​

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Title: TURNING ME OFF

CMRRA Number: 00239042

CMRRA Total Claim% : 50.00

Author / Composer Details

	First Name​ Surname​ JOHN JOSEPH BARNES MICHAEL JACKSON ​

Publisher Details

	Publisher Name​ Represented​ BARNES BROTHERS MUSIC Yes SONY ATV HARMONY Yes Unknown Publisher (999990) Unknown ​

Alternative Titles

	Title​ ​

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	Band Name/Surname​ First Name​

 

[mjfp]

Also, what era is which for the WBSS demo from TII and the one that leaked in 2002? I can never seem to get a concrete answer.

1981. Many believe it‘s 1978 for some reason but no

 

[Seldervi]

its the very rare new jack janet mix of 微笑みの爆弾 uwu

oh my god thats so sugoi! i always knew michael was an anime fan, but i never knew his sister was!! wow!!!

 

[SmoothCriminal1995]

These have been recently added to CMRRA database. Probably initiated by the estate of John Barnes. Michael's share has been mistakenly associated with Sony/Atv Publishing instead of Mijac.

Title: MAKE A BREAK

CMRRA Number: 00276822

CMRRA Total Claim% : 50.00

Author / Composer Details
​

	First Name​ Surname​ JOHN JOSEPH BARNES MICHAEL JACKSON ​

Publisher Details
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	Publisher Name​ Represented​ BARNES BROTHERS MUSIC Yes SONY ATV HARMONY Yes Unknown Publisher (999990) Unknown ​

Alternative Titles
​

	Title​ MAKE OR BREAK ​

Performing Artist Details
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	Band Name/Surname​ First Name​

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Title: TURNING ME OFF

CMRRA Number: 00239042

CMRRA Total Claim% : 50.00

Author / Composer Details
​

	First Name​ Surname​ JOHN JOSEPH BARNES MICHAEL JACKSON ​

Publisher Details
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	Publisher Name​ Represented​ BARNES BROTHERS MUSIC Yes SONY ATV HARMONY Yes Unknown Publisher (999990) Unknown ​

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	Title​ ​

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	Band Name/Surname​ First Name​

What do we think mate? Do we think this could be an indicator of any upcoming release? Also weren't both tapes spotted in an Xscape documentary?

 

[Eventidescape1]

1981. Many believe it‘s 1978 for some reason but no

Definitely 1981. It features a Linn drum machine, which was officially released in 1980 and features on other Thriller demos. So the demo we have can't date any earlier.

 

[MJJ Leaks]

What do we think mate? Do we think this could be an indicator of any upcoming release? Also weren't both tapes spotted in an Xscape documentary?

Just TMO was in the xscape documentary

Wasn’t Make or Break a BAD 25 outtake?

 

[threepea11]

These have been recently added to CMRRA database. Probably initiated by the estate of John Barnes. Michael's share has been mistakenly associated with Sony/Atv Publishing instead of Mijac.

Title: MAKE A BREAK

CMRRA Number: 00276822

CMRRA Total Claim% : 50.00

Author / Composer Details
​

	First Name​ Surname​ JOHN JOSEPH BARNES MICHAEL JACKSON ​

Publisher Details
​

	Publisher Name​ Represented​ BARNES BROTHERS MUSIC Yes SONY ATV HARMONY Yes Unknown Publisher (999990) Unknown ​

Alternative Titles
​

	Title​ MAKE OR BREAK ​

Performing Artist Details
​

	Band Name/Surname​ First Name​

.

Title: TURNING ME OFF

CMRRA Number: 00239042

CMRRA Total Claim% : 50.00

Author / Composer Details
​

	First Name​ Surname​ JOHN JOSEPH BARNES MICHAEL JACKSON ​

Publisher Details
​

	Publisher Name​ Represented​ BARNES BROTHERS MUSIC Yes SONY ATV HARMONY Yes Unknown Publisher (999990) Unknown ​

Alternative Titles
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	Title​ ​

Performing Artist Details
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	Band Name/Surname​ First Name​

Either its for Bad 40 or in case of potential leaks. We know TMO got leaked, but I'm not sure if Make Or Break is circulating among collectors or not

 

[threepea11]

Wasn’t Make or Break a BAD 25 outtake?

No, afaik, it wasn't considered for Bad 25

 

[Fuzball]

What do we think mate? Do we think this could be an indicator of any upcoming release? Also weren't both tapes spotted in an Xscape documentary?

I don't think the registration of these songs is related to any project. I'd like to be proven wrong, though.

iirc, the tape seen in the xscape documentary was labeled Loving You/Cheater/Turnin' Me Off.


@MJJ Leaks: according to Matt Forger Tomboy was considered for Bad25.

 

[Derek1984]

No, afaik, it wasn't considered for Bad 25

I think Make or Break started during the Bad sessions and then resurfaced for Dangerous.

Barnes loved the track and wished they had completed it. Bottrell didn't care for it (go figure).

 

[MJJ Leaks]

I don't think the registration of these songs is related to any project. I'd like to be proven wrong, though.

iirc, the tape seen in the xscape documentary was labeled Loving You/Cheater/Turnin' Me Off.


@MJJ Leaks: according to Matt Forger Tomboy was considered for Bad25.

Crack Kills too according to Damien

 

[michaeljackson.nl]

Bottrell didn't care for it (go figure).

what’s new

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Bottrell didn't care for it (go figure).

And yet he likes Monkey Business lol

 

[Derek1984]

And yet he likes Monkey Business lol

Well, because that's a Bottrell track.

 

[MsAshley]

is this monkey business hate im sensing :|

 

[lotfi]

Who better crack kills.tomboy.what you do to me

 

[JamesCMJJ]

Who better crack kills.tomboy.what you do to me

no one has heard those

 

[innuendo141]

Who better crack kills.tomboy.what you do to me

Jesus he's back

 

[robotchicken14]

Jesus he's back

Yep, Jesus is back and his name is lotfi

 

[MichaelJacksonaddict1989]

Since the January leaks have been over for a while now I was wondering if an original file for Brad Loop 3.3.7 was ever shared if so can you please send it my way?

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

is this monkey business hate im sensing :|

Monkey Business apathy more like it