The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

yeah thats the one i meant !
i still find it weird as to why they didnt just go with that version for the Michael album, its been described by people as the absolute best one
like why use the first demo from like a decade before instead of one thats recent and well...mostly finished
The only plausible reason I can conclude is, they must hate Michael immensly.
 
I'm honestly fine if this snippet is all that leaks from "Crack Kills", it's already enough to give us an idea on how it sounds like but at the same time to keep it a mystery. And since this song was considered for Bad 25—and word has it that it was pulled from the tracklist at the last minute—then it's definitely only a matter of time until it gets officially released by the Estate. In that case I'd rather it's kept as a surprise.

We already got a nice amount of new songs leaking out this year (with more possibly on the way) anyways so it's really not a problem for me if mofos out there insist on gatekeeping it lol.
 
is it a legit snippet? Has its authenticity been confirmed by Joe Vogel or Bill Bottrell?
No idea, not sure if they've ever even responded. Assuming that it's real of course, then I don't mind if this is all we get from leakers.
 
Yes. There were a lot of calls for the “Such A Loser” chorus hook snippet being fake, but I’ve always thought it sounded real and pretty catchy.

Kai is more in the know about what is real/AI though so may well be a fake

It could be real.. the snippets are just too short… but I just said the music kinda sounds AI generated. But also AI generators are good so i can be wrong 🤣🤣
 
Yeah I don't see a reason to have doubts when everything this channel posted has been legit. I agree that it does sound like a YT recreation a bit (I swear I've found one on YT a while back that's scarily alike but I'm having trouble remembering which it was) but then so did the "Adore You" snippets and those were real, so.
 
Yeah I don't see a reason to have doubts when everything this channel posted has been legit.
Those old enough to remember the X-Files may remember the quote "a lie is most convincingly hidden between two truths". Not saying this is the case here. Just be wary.
 
Those old enough to remember the X-Files may remember the quote "a lie is most convincingly hidden between two truths". Not saying this is the case here. Just be wary.
Fair point. There is that other leak channel that posted a fake snippet of Victory not even a week ago lol

And also, the leaker is saying they'll be posting "Monster" and "Water" in CDQ next.
 
Wasn't there anyone from this forum who was actually at that event with Buxer and Michael Prince?

Water, Adore You, RWITY, Dark Lady, Michael's Affirmation, it all seems to come from there. What else could they have made the people present hear?
 
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I'm not wishing that something like this happens to other people who worked with MJ, but if this incident happened in the seminar with Michael Prince and Brad Buxer we would be getting tons of new songs like GYWOOM, Monster, Rocker or any other song from the 2000's. Kind of crazy to think about.
I'm trying to dig up old posts from around the seminar, funny how it kinda happened but they've been gatekeeping the recording ever since
 
There's a lot more instruments in this track than what was audible in the earlier snippets, which kinda changed my whole view on it.

It's such a shame that the Hold My Hand leak messed things up, it scared Michael into avoiding vocals in the recordings and thinking it was better to add them just before release. These instrumentals on their own sound so sick tho...
 
Michael singing "water" echoing in the background at the end of the snippet sounds ethereal. Criminal that the snippet ends right there.

Hearing this in HQ is gonna be such a trip. What a wild time in the fandom with all these leaks, to me it already surpassed the 2023 leaks for an absolute fact.
 
LegendZX1 :

Everything is on my hard drive. Those snippets are from my phone in mono on purpose. Buxer is one of the sources. I don’t know any other people who may have what I have. For example my version of ‘Adore You’ runs 6:11. My version of ‘Changes’ file says it is 8:00, but the file stops at 7:25 on the dot as the backing choir plays.

Who is this guy?
 
Wasn't there anyone from this forum who was actually at that event with Buxer and Michael Prince?

Water, Adore You, RWITY, Dark Lady, Michael's Affirmation, it all seems to come from there. What else could they have made the people present hear?
I was at two seminars with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince as a guest at Dierks Studio in Stommeln, near cologne. At least druing the seminar organized by Brice Najar, they played Adore You (but not the full thing, they did fade it out), Water and Michaels Affirmation. Dark Lady was to my knowledge never ever played at a seminar. The remaining snippet leaks are not from seminars either. Changes or Innocent Man (doesn't contain many additional vocals, but has a cool guitar solo at the end) have never been played anywhere, or even mentioned.
 
I was at two seminars with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince as a guest at Dierks Studio in Stommeln, near cologne. At least druing the seminar organized by Brice Najar, they played Adore You (but not the full thing, they did fade it out), Water and Michaels Affirmation. Dark Lady was to my knowledge never ever played at a seminar. The remaining snippet leaks are not from seminars either. Changes or Innocent Man (doesn't contain many additional vocals, but has a cool guitar solo at the end) have never been played anywhere, or even mentioned.
So you can confirm that both Adore You Snippets and Water are legit?
 
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