A.I Michael - opinions

[R1chard]

As for the rest, all I am doing is expressing some sympathy for the artists that are not well served by the system that currently exists.

Meh. It doesn't matter.

If being a singer is suddenly seen as a job that pays below the minimum wage, and if that's the reason somebody doesn't want to be a singer any more, good riddance, they won't be missed.

Literally 99.999% of all the musicians who ever lived, made zero money from it. The reason people pick up a guitar is because they enjoy it and they want to learn. It's never because they want to make a career out of it. And having fun is literally the only valid reason to become a guitarist.

We really need to stop worrying about how Taylor Swift will make her next hundred million. People are passionate about music. It's only recently that people have started to be passionate about the music industry. And I find that bizarre.

WTH? I mean, when people still used horses as vehicle? Impossible

Seriously, just look it up.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Meh. It doesn't matter.

If being a singer is suddenly seen as a job that pays below the minimum wage, and if that's the reason somebody doesn't want to be a singer any more, good riddance, they won't be missed.

Literally 99.999% of all the musicians who ever lived, made zero money from it. The reason people pick up a guitar is because they enjoy it and they want to learn. It's never because they want to make a career out of it. And having fun is literally the only valid reason to become a guitarist.

We really need to stop worrying about how Taylor Swift will make her next hundred million. People are passionate about music. It's only recently that people have started to be passionate about the music industry. And I find that bizarre.


Seriously, just look it up.

You are an expert at not understanding why people like things.

 

[zinniabooklover]

[...] If being a singer is suddenly seen as a job that pays below the minimum wage, and if that's the reason somebody doesn't want to be a singer any more, good riddance, they won't be missed.

Weird direction to go in but, OK.

Literally 99.999% of all the musicians who ever lived, made zero money from it. The reason people pick up a guitar is because they enjoy it and they want to learn. It's never because they want to make a career out of it. And having fun is literally the only valid reason to become a guitarist.

Y'know, I do understand all of this. Not sure why you feel the need to spell this out. So many of the bands I saw live never even got signed. Of the ones that did get signed, probably 80% of those never got past their first little EP. I've lost count of the number of gigs I've been to where a band performed in front of maybe 10 - 20 people ... and two of those people were bar staff waiting to start their shift, lol. I'm fully aware that throughout most of human history most people made their own music in their own home. See Paul McCartney.

We really need to stop worrying about how Taylor Swift will make her next hundred million.

I'm not. ffs!

People are passionate about music.

I'm aware of that. Having been passionate about music since I was 3 yo, yes, I understand that.

It's only recently that people have started to be passionate about the music industry. And I find that bizarre.

Who the **** is passionate about the music industry? If that's what you got from my posts ... actually, I'm speechless ...

Meh. It doesn't matter. [...]

We can agree on this, at least.

 

[zinniabooklover]

You are an expert at not understanding why people like things.

 

[R1chard]

I'm not. ffs!

Fair enough. But in this thread (and others), instead of talking about whether AI music is any good, it seems to devolve into "but the estate will lose out on royalties!"

I'm aware of that. Having been passionate about music since I was 3 yo, yes, I understand that.

Great. We're on exactly the same page.

Who the **** is passionate about the music industry? If that's what you got from my posts ... actually, I'm speechless ...

Seemingly a lot of people are. I never cease to be amazed by how many people bang on about "song x has just set a new record for the longest time at #1 on the charts", or trying to come up with new ideas to make the sharing ratio fairer.

 

[innuendo141]

Look at this thumbnail.

Christ tonight.

 

[Masonh]

My biggest dream is about fans, creating music video for Unbreakable song using AI! That would be right thing to do! We already know the script, how Michael wanted this video look like. We know about Notorious BIG hologram plans. So just imagine what we can do with it!

 

[Robbsaber01]

 

[Hot_Street]

AI is all that's left for us MJ fans.

 

[wendijane]

AI is all that is left really..you are right @Hot_Street
Slightly like the concept of this one..

 

[Hot_Street]

Thriller - Ruined by AI

 

[AdhesiveAaron]

I actually thought this was real for a moment...

 

[Robbsaber01]

Watch unnamed | Streamable

Watch "unnamed" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Starlight mini model from Topaz is now available locally. It is slow (over an hour for this 1 minute clip) Figured I'd test on the HQ yet compressed Tokyo '87 snippet. (Still needs improvement with faces lol)
Brisbane '87

Watch WBSS_Before_1_starlight_mini | Streamable

Watch "WBSS_Before_1_starlight_mini" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Close-up shots with a decent source seem to give the best results.

 

[Hot_Street]

What’s A Guy Gotta Do (AI Cover)​

 

[Robbsaber01]

Found this site that uses "smart removal" for watermarks. I decided to give it the ultimate Logo test...

Video Test :

Watch Compare_Final | Streamable

Watch "Compare_Final" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Free tier only allows 5s clips so I stitched some together for this example. Curious what you guys think of the results compared to current methods. It seems "cleaner".
The site is called VMake If you want to test it out.
Edit : Link

Watermark & Text Remover | Vmake AI

Remove watermarks, logos, and text from videos and images with Vmake AI. Perfect for repurposing,editing,or archiving—just upload and clean up your content.

vmake.ai

 

[kai]

Found this site that uses "smart removal" for watermarks. I decided to give it the ultimate Logo test...

Video Test :

Watch Compare_Final | Streamable

Watch "Compare_Final" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Free tier only allows 5s clips so I stitched some together for this example. Curious what you guys think of the results compared to current methods. It seems "cleaner".
The site is called VMake If you want to test it out.

this actually looks great.. if you didn't know there was a logo you wouldn't notice..
any chance you can do the full thing without quality loss?

 

[Beano Wild]

Found this site that uses "smart removal" for watermarks. I decided to give it the ultimate Logo test...

Video Test :

Watch Compare_Final | Streamable

Watch "Compare_Final" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Free tier only allows 5s clips so I stitched some together for this example. Curious what you guys think of the results compared to current methods. It seems "cleaner".
The site is called VMake If you want to test it out.
Edit : Link

Watermark & Text Remover | Vmake AI

Remove watermarks, logos, and text from videos and images with Vmake AI. Perfect for repurposing,editing,or archiving—just upload and clean up your content.

vmake.ai

Only realised after the fact that one of the photographers at kingvention was lounis himself, if I knew that beforehand I would have confronted him myself

 

[Robbsaber01]

this actually looks great.. if you didn't know there was a logo you wouldn't notice..
any chance you can do the full thing without quality loss?

Here's a raw output test from V-Make for APOM ending (ignore the audio de-sync, I don't know what happened there lol) They don't accept .VOB so I had to mux to mp4.

Transfer.it

transfer.it

 

[MichaelD]

Here's a raw output test from V-Make for APOM ending (ignore the audio de-sync, I don't know what happened there lol) They don't accept .VOB so I had to mux to mp4.

Transfer.it

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Interesting, not too bad actually. Maybe de-interlacing the vob embedded mpg first (QTGMC) can do the trick?
(vob -> deninterlace and export as mpg or mp4 or even better prores, then running this ai model).

I'm out of the loop and only familiar with Topaz Video AI, though.

 

[MichaelD]

Only realised after the fact that one of the photographers at kingvention was lounis himself, if I knew that beforehand I would have confronted him myself

Yeah, but we do know that it wasn't him who slapped that big ass logo onto said footage?!

 

[kai]

Yeah, but we do know that it wasn't him who slapped that big ass logo onto said footage?!

Well… he slapped it on it but underneath his big logo there was the „not for broadcast“ logo.

 

[MichaelD]

Well… he slapped it on it but underneath his big logo there was the „not for broadcast“ logo.

Nvm

 

[Robbsaber01]

Only realised after the fact that one of the photographers at kingvention was lounis himself, if I knew that beforehand I would have confronted him myself

We could make a mini series on the Lounis-saga lmao. He's gotta be the most infamous figure in MJ forum history .
That logo is embedded in MJ lore forever.

Edit: I'll be there test (seemed to struggle a bit on this one, I wish this tool was local)

Transfer.it

transfer.it

Sadly, even on paid tier only 300mb size limit.

 

[Fuzball]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929905172064469364

 

[R1chard]

^meh, that's just industry greed. Doesn't affect any of us.

 

[Beano Wild]

Just want to apologise for anyone i might've upset over the MIB situation, i think i just felt as though the track "couldn't" be real because of who was behind the leak, rather than the song itself, even if its insane that its the only MJ track from that era that has no tape warple.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Just want to apologise for anyone i might've upset over the MIB situation, i think i just felt as though the track "couldn't" be real because of who was behind the leak, rather than the song itself, even if its insane that its the only MJ track from that era that has no tape warple.

What, dude? I don't understand what you're talking about.

Even the drama around here is boring now haha. Happy Monday

 

[kai]

Just want to apologise for anyone i might've upset over the MIB situation, i think i just felt as though the track "couldn't" be real because of who was behind the leak, rather than the song itself, even if its insane that its the only MJ track from that era that has no tape warple.

Well, i knew this was going to happen one day.. that's why i tried to explain you (private messages) that you are on the wrong path with this but you didn't wanna listen. Also not sure if you missed this but i was not behind the leak of MiB or Street. I do not leak stuff. I was just one of the persons who got this tracks months before. But anyways..

edit: i still am very interested to know WHO hacked my account with that "proton" email.

 

[Hot_Street]

You Rock My World - Ruined by AI

 

[Victorious]

You Rock My World - Ruined by AI

It would be interesting to see a deepfake of 'YRMW' with MJ's 80's/90s face.. I wonder if, and if so how much, that makes a difference in appreciating the video.. @Beano Wild ?