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So, seafood is prohibited by the Bible? Interesting...
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What the Bible says ... about lobster

A true Christian believes that God is infallible, which means that if you believe one part of the Bible, you must believe the whole thing, not just bits and pieces. There are many things that your Bible would have outlawed.
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(Or maybe that stuff is missing context, it's a doctor telling someone not to eat stuff their allergic to? Maybe...)
 
I'm personally agnostic, A higher power would not and could not be what is described in Abrahamic religions. Reading the thread recently (which I used to post in here years ago), I see majority posts discrediting the Abrahamic religions and the correlating God. I'm curious what makes you (whoever wants to respond) feel sure that there is not a higher power(s) or energy/energies with intent. Physics shows us that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so I am wondering what your theory/belief is around where the energy that runs through us comes from and what happens after death..
 
KOPV said:
I'm personally agnostic, A higher power would not and could not be what is described in Abrahamic religions. Reading the thread recently (which I used to post in here years ago), I see majority posts discrediting the Abrahamic religions and the correlating God. I'm curious what makes you (whoever wants to respond) feel sure that there is not a higher power(s) or energy/energies with intent. Physics shows us that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so I am wondering what your theory/belief is around where the energy that runs through us comes from and what happens after death..
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Most of my theory/belief is "I don't know" and "I don't need to force an answer to it".

Physics, which I sometimes follow as entertainment (in the past I dropped out from physics studies before I got different career and diplomas), still can't really explain how all the matter/energy in our universe came into being. There are hypothesis like they could be some "disturbance" in some field, but then why does that background field even exist in the first place? What is the context the universe exists in, if any? There are hypothesis that for matter for form, an equal quantity of anti-matter must form, but then, where is all the anti-matter?
I already wrote about it in this forum (maybe during on of the "cross-over moments" in the Christian thread?) but I don't think that science can be opposed to believe in "God(s)". As beliefs can always be used to "answer" whatever science doesn't answer to (yet). And for science, "god(s)-or-whatever" would just be a weak hypothesis that has never been able to proven, and maybe never will. So religious beliefs are mostly unsignificant fantasy to science. And at the same time, as no can know everything, every one must use some beliefs (not necessarily religious) of some sort, or doubt. As long a beliefs don't go against what is proven, science and beliefs may coexist in an unrelated way.
 
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Was Jesus Really Wrapped in the Shroud of Turin? 3D Study Says Probably Not
In a simulation, a bas-relief pressed into digital fabric produced an imprint that resembled the Shroud of Turin more closely than the imprint of a fully 3D human body.
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This conclusion supports the theory that the Shroud was not wrapped around a real human (or divine) body. Instead, it may have been an artistic representation, he suggested, potentially related to funerary practices.
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Was Jesus Really Wrapped in the Shroud of Turin? 3D Study Says Probably Not

In a simulation, a bas-relief pressed into digital fabric produced an imprint that resembled the Shroud of Turin more closely than the imprint of a fully 3D human body.
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How do the creation story and these new discoveries of ancestors of modern humans fit together? One of them must be a fake...
“This new research shows that the image many of us have in our minds of an ape to a Neanderthal to a modern human is not correct—evolution doesn’t work like that,” Kaye Reed, a paleoecologist at Arizona State University, said in a statement. “Here we have two hominin species that are together. And human evolution is not linear, it’s a bushy tree, there are lifeforms that go extinct.”
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Newly Discovered Fossils Reveal Unknown Humanlike Relative

A set of teeth discovered in Ethiopia likely belonged to a previously unidentified species of early human-like ancestors.
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Sawyer Grubb said:
Exactly what am I lying about? All of what I have said has been backed up by evidence. Where is the evidence that your purpose of life is true? I know I don’t just get my purpose of life from random person like you who just says so. There is no purpose in life except a if you have a purpose maker. Don’t say that humans are purpose makers because that is all relative, like a serial killers purpose could be to kill but that doesn’t make it right does it? You know the world started out with believing in God, and Jesus doesn’t just change half the world because He is not reliable and a fake. You are also insulting half the world so I would be careful what you say.

“I” “Me” “Mine”. Atheists are their own God, and what a selfish way to live. Imagine saying that to others. If you told me Hitler said this, I wouldn’t be surprised.

It’s sad how culture has moved so far away from God. I also I want to leave you with this: if you died now, and a hundred or more years later someone said you were not real but you clearly lived, and they say “oh well I can’t see this person or I don’t have any proof of this person” (you can’t prove anything in life), would that make you fake or that you never existed?

Why do you feel the need to bring race into this? This is also just flat out twisting the words of the Bible which is just sad. I’m interested to see what this guy can come up with next to help convince himself God isn’t real.
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I am an atheist and I want to dedicate my life to others. And we can believe in God out of selfishness for fear of reprisals or just to reassure ourselves.

I want something tangible, something concrete. I believe in the existence of Jesus, this man would apparently have really existed (in 1000 years no one will be able to prove that I existed, I would have been dead a long time ago) but a being who seems mystical and divine having created the world and who cannot help all the innocent, seems to me more a legend. It's totally personal, I'm a Cartesian and I don't stop anyone from believing it, but I don't share these convictions. Religion is something good when it is healthy it is like everything. It must not be sectarian and harm us or anything else. For me, God is in us, in our heart, our way of acting, love and respect, the benevolence that we can bring to others, human or not.

And thank you for not mentioning you-know-who by making awkward comparison.
 
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