Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

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This may have been posted Before but at the end of this it says there Jordan Chandler was living in 2013

February 19 2013 An open House is held at Jordan’s NY apartment, and the real estate agent tells potential buyers that Jordan is currently in Europe.
Jordan is currently living in Marina Del Ray with his yoga instructor girlfriend.—Pictured below with his girlfriend, June Chandler and others.


Nathalie’s mother and Emmanuelle Chandler
Nathalie Chandler and Nick Chandler
 
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Someone please tell me people can't be this stupid, right? Oh wait, too late.

I was on Facebook and I saw a post by the MJ page and I don't know why but there are comments from haters there. You gotta wonder how and why, I mean they clearly dislike MJ, yet they manage to arrive in a MJ page and post comments. Da ****?

But here's the thing.

"Still glorified, even after raping all those kids. MJ is immune. Not to mention all the child porn they found in his house."

Then a poster with a mind of their own provides this total numbskull of a loser with facts. A link to the FBI page about MJ. And his response is...

"ahuh".

Another total ass clown goes... and I kid you not...

"yeah sure he was proven innocent. Or maybe the people who had him rightfully killed didn't want to ruin their chances of all the money that they make off his name and kept the truth hidden. He was a textbook child predator. To the letter. Particularly if you are aware of a certain words and symbolism that are used in the occult that are reflected in his lyrics and lifestyle. "

And sure, I did comment and gave these assholes facts Radar Online with the doctored photos and more things but really... it's when I see shit like this that just makes me want to give up trying to give people the other side of the story.

Seriously, **** these people. For this guy to say he was rightfully killed. Yeah sorry, I couldn't control myself and I wished the exact same upon him.

So done.
 
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You know one thing I just realized is that at least Wade and James can kiss their court appeal goodbye because you can't go to court to testify when you have been buddiying and talking about the case with another witness. If the case is on "appeal" then they are still bound by the rules.
 
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You know one thing I just realized is that at least Wade and James can kiss their court appeal goodbye because you can't go to court to testify when you have been buddiying and talking about the case with another witness. If the case is on "appeal" then they are still bound by the rules.

Doubt they care at this point. They're gonna be seen as victims worldwide and their careers will be made.
 
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Dan can interview Jordan and Gavin all he wants. The court verdict will still remain not guilty for those cases inicluding all the evidence that was presented in that tral. And if he would do that, that is when he REALLY will lose all his credibility and make his agenda visible.
 
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Doubt they care at this point. They're gonna be seen as victims worldwide and their careers will be made.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Wade already has a reputation in the entertainment industry and not necessarily a good one. People know that he is willing to lie, cheat, deceive and throw anyone under the bus to advance his own career. People will take note.
 
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Its always been the same for the last 30 years.the media have always hated his guts. Now they see this as their chance to finally destroy him .hes not here to fight and the estate are as useful as a chocolate teapot.they have been waiting for someone to come along since 09 and nows their chance.
But now it's a new level I think: media people don't even try to hide their bias and lies, like they are proud of breaking the basic rules of their own profession. A practically unknown director openly saying his film is as one-sided as possible is given many platform while the Estate of MJ, who is the target of all this, is not. Airing this film is already a shame, but at a minimum an opportunity to react must have been granted to MJ's side as well.

I think it's crossing a line (even if considering their decades-long awful treatment of MJ).
 
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Wade already has a reputation in the entertainment industry and not necessarily a good one. People know that he is willing to lie, cheat, deceive and throw anyone under the bus to advance his own career. People will take note.

I really hope so because all these Pro W&S comments on Twitter are starting to annoy the hell out of me. Nobody is looking at the other side of the story, the factual side of it. I don't expect the media to do that anymore, it's only gonna be more BS from them from here on out.

So who would tweet out more level headed responses, people in the entertainment industry that know Wade who have seen the mockumentary? I certainly hope so, God nows its needed.
 
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Side note....HELLO DAN!!! *waves* Enjoying what you're reading and the attention you are getting? Hooked on all the comments like it's a reality show or an exiting thriller? Is the truth and the fear of getting exposed causing you any sleepless nights yet? Any plans on what you will do once you will get discredited and outed as a tabloid reporter who have not done any research at all and initentionally lied to the audience to push a false narrative? You may want to ask Claas Relotius, who was also once an "award winning journalist" who got caught in having made up stories and whose awards were taken away as a result. Enjoy your BAFTA while you can. Now would be a good time to sell it on eBay. You're gonna need the money. Toodaloo! *waves*
 
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So the trailer is out. What a joke, neither of them look or sound at all credible. People are definitely being paid to say they do because wade sounds like he's reading off of a massive card held right on front of him.
 
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I really hope so because all these Pro W&S comments on Twitter are starting to annoy the hell out of me. Nobody is looking at the other side of the story, the factual side of it. I don't expect the media to do that anymore, it's only gonna be more BS from them from here on out.

So who would tweet out more level headed responses, people in the entertainment industry that know Wade who have seen the mockumentary? I certainly hope so, God nows its needed.

A lot of these MJ haters think that our logic is to say "MJ IS INNOCENT BECAUSE HES MY FAVORITE SINGER SO THERE!!!" When in reality, the fans are really saying, "We've looked at the court documents, we looked at the FBI reports and all the documents and affadavits on record, all these allegations are full of holes and inconsistencies. Based on that, we've come to the conclusion that there is no way MJ is guilty."
 
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Good luck getting chandler to come forward mate
 
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Good luck getting chandler to come forward mate

Stuff like this kinda scares me because if he convinced him it could be quite bad for MJ.
 
La74;4241784 said:
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https://turningthetableonthechandlerallegations.wordpress.com/2014/04/20/chandler-timeline/

This may have been posted Before but at the end of this it says there Jordan Chandler was living in 2013

February 19 2013 An open House is held at Jordan’s NY apartment, and the real estate agent tells potential buyers that Jordan is currently in Europe.
Jordan is currently living in Marina Del Ray with his yoga instructor girlfriend.—Pictured below with his girlfriend, June Chandler and others.


Nathalie’s mother and Emmanuelle Chandler
Nathalie Chandler and Nick Chandler
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So this is what he looked like in 2013
 
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A lot of these MJ haters think that our logic is to say "MJ IS INNOCENT BECAUSE HES MY FAVORITE SINGER SO THERE!!!" When in reality, the fans are really saying, "We've looked at the court documents, we looked at the FBI reports and all the documents and affadavits on record, all these allegations are full of holes and inconsistencies. Based on that, we've come to the conclusion that there is no way MJ is guilty."
And we have done this for decades actually..
 
SmoothGangsta;4241800 said:
Stuff like this kinda scares me because if he convinced him it could be quite bad for MJ.

Not happening chandler divorced his parents and refused to testify in 2005 so I think sneddon brought in the prior bad acts to counteract the fact he wouldn’t testify
 
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Holy shit, that ****ing trailer.

People are seriously believing this? I understand it's just a short preview of a four-hour film and they've omitted the grotesque commentary, but the acting is just horrendous. James is decent at best, but Wade just sucks. They both have such vacant expressions, empty eyes, and they clearly sound like they're reading from a pre-written script.

What an absolute joke. The fact that people are falling for this blows my mind. For their sake, I hope that HBO just sucks at cutting trailers, because they chose the worst footage to lead with.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4241794 said:
I really hope so because all these Pro W&S comments on Twitter are starting to annoy the hell out of me. Nobody is looking at the other side of the story, the factual side of it. I don't expect the media to do that anymore, it's only gonna be more BS from them from here on out.

So who would tweet out more level headed responses, people in the entertainment industry that know Wade who have seen the mockumentary? I certainly hope so, God nows its needed.
They did say they were going to have a screening for influencers so there are people beeing paid to repeat ”watch the movie” right now and ofcpurse they want us to look like the irrational ones.
 
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Holy shit, that ****ing trailer.

People are seriously believing this? I understand it's just a short preview of a four-hour film and they've omitted the grotesque commentary, but the acting is just horrendous. James is decent at best, but Wade just sucks. They both have such vacant expressions, empty eyes, and they clearly sound like they're reading from a pre-written script.

What an absolute joke. The fact that people are falling for this blows my mind. For their sake, I hope that HBO just sucks at cutting trailers, because they chose the worst footage to lead with.


There was a person at Sundance who left after 2 hours and says that then she left atleast 25 people had already left.
 
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Stuff like this kinda scares me because if he convinced him it could be quite bad for MJ.

Because of that settlement, he can't or won't say anything incriminating according to the confidential agreement. It would breaching the agreement point on not go out to public or the media about the case. Then the Estate would sue him and win the lawsuit within a heartbeat. If Evan Chandler could do that on Michael with that 60 million dollar lawsuit back in 1996, so can the Estate.
 
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Holy shit, that ****ing trailer.

People are seriously believing this? I understand it's just a short preview of a four-hour film and they've omitted the grotesque commentary, but the acting is just horrendous. James is decent at best, but Wade just sucks. They both have such vacant expressions, empty eyes, and they clearly sound like they're reading from a pre-written script.

What an absolute joke. The fact that people are falling for this blows my mind. For their sake, I hope that HBO just sucks at cutting trailers, because they chose the worst footage to lead with.

It is ridiculously bad, the happy birthday part made me feel a bit sick, they're really trying to make everything look sinister.
 
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Because of that settlement, he can't or won't say anything incriminating according to the confidential agreement. It would breaching the agreement point on not go out to public or the media about the case. Then the Estate would sue him and win the lawsuit within a heartbeat. If Evan Chandler could do that on Michael with that 60 million dollar lawsuit back in 1996, so can the Estate.

That is good to know.
 
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Stuff like this kinda scares me because if he convinced him it could be quite bad for MJ.

It wouldn't change anything though. He was given a chance to say something in 2005 but he refused. All the evience that was found in his '93 case was presented in 2005 anyhow but MJ was still found not guilty because there was no evidence that he did anything wrong. He can say what he wants now, it still won't change the fact that there was no evidence and the court agreed. If Dan were to go on with this 2nd documentary he would make it even more obvious that he is only using MJ's name to get people to see his sad films because he can'tachieve it other wise. Not to mention if he would try to twist the story the same way he is twisting this one and would refuse to present facts the same way he was omitting and hiding facts and lying about them in this one....no one could ever take him seriously anymore as a serious journalist or someone who makes serious documentaries if he went and did that. And that is when we could REALLY raise hell to get him in exposed in commiting journalistic fraud. As well as anyone who would agree to show that crap. Because that would be a violation of every single journalistic rule on fair and truthful reporting and on ethics from the get go.
 
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When news hit that the Danish mall had removed the #Michaeljackson vax figure, our dear Swedish friend and tribute artist Majki, decited to show up as a billiant protest. Luckily #MJ was reinstated, so the @moowalkersdk #mjfam got together and paid tribute.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson fans in Changsha, Hunan province support Michael and protest against lies and smear campaign. <a href="https://t.co/FjLDBkEBGE">pic.twitter.com/FjLDBkEBGE</a></p>&mdash; MJJChina (@MJJCN1) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJCN1/status/1097914047712747520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">19. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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Well, we live in even more tougher times now. History repeats itself, and unfortunately, people find other ways to express themselves, and not in a good way. People will talk about you until the day you die, even after you're gone. When you're gone, people can pretty much say anything, and it's totally unfair. It's important that we must continue to fight with love, never give up hope. There are times even when I feel hopeless, until I turn to Michael's music (songs like "Man In The Mirror," "Keep The Faith," "Morning Glow," etc.), say a prayer, and keep going. We've all got our lives as well, and I will not give in to hate and fear. I WILL NOT BOW DOWN!
 
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Hold On!!!

I just watched the trailer for Leaving Neverland.. Who the f** did they talk to to get access to Neverland post Michael Jacksons death? How did Dan Reed get that access into Neverland.. That Gate they show opening is the gate they put up AFTER the actual gates were removed.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Poor Chinese children in China's remote rural area believe in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJINNOCENT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJINNOCENT</a> and the spirit of Heal the World. <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://t.co/Zt2DjXm7zZ">pic.twitter.com/Zt2DjXm7zZ</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1097866047737217034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">19. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Which version of the story are they telling when I look into their eyes? The 2005 version? The 2013 version? The 2015 version? Or the version in the TV show, which contradicts all the previous versions? <br><br>Just want to be clear on which version of their story is the credible one. <a href="https://t.co/HwWeXZT63M">https://t.co/HwWeXZT63M</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1097776693912195072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">19. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the first time today, I smiled. I could feel the global love from around the world for Michael Jackson. Please watch, share, RT. Thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJJusticePrjct</a> for this, I needed it. &#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://t.co/hcDQ3p1PxZ">https://t.co/hcDQ3p1PxZ</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1097718212857192450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">19. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;But therein lies the problem - no investigative journalism or police investigation has uncovered any wrongdoing by Jackson.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/s59OBsiXqw">https://t.co/s59OBsiXqw</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Harris (@JohnnyAi) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnnyAi/status/1097879728348979201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">19. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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