Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[nextbigthing56]

I think many people seem to forget or not realise that both Wade and James are professional actors.

U can only go by facts, and there is so very facts out there that prove that this story doesn’t make sense.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you want to hear someone who clearly should have been in the <a href="https://twitter.com/HBO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HBO</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> “documentary,” but was mysteriously left out, take a listen (starting at 4 minute mark) to Michael Jackson’s niece <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> who dated Wade Robson for his entire teens <a href="https://t.co/GZPMXvNz3Y">https://t.co/GZPMXvNz3Y</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1103110282216239105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taj Jackson in the UK defending Michael Jackson on Channel 5 <a href="https://t.co/CxqHRJuuqI">pic.twitter.com/CxqHRJuuqI</a></p>&mdash; #MJINNOCENT (@MJStarOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJStarOfficial/status/1103093537241993216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People say <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> fans are in denial. I say denial is ignoring 20+ years of acquittals, no evidence, proven extortion, disgruntled ex-employees, failed book deals, dismissed lawsuits &amp; swearing by a documentary, whose narrative is purposely one-sided. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a></p>&mdash; Chris D'Onofrio (@FutureBoyChris) <a href="https://twitter.com/FutureBoyChris/status/1102685549964472320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing this just hurts my heart so bad &amp; seeing how Taj sounds at the verge of tears is even more devastating.. I cant believe people didn’t stop &amp; think about the lives they’d affect, the pain &amp; wounds they’d open back up.. I’m so sorry.. I’m heartbroken <a href="https://t.co/x1DJxmrnnn">pic.twitter.com/x1DJxmrnnn</a></p>&mdash; Lei&#65533;&#65533; (@themaskoflife) <a href="https://twitter.com/themaskoflife/status/1103029943573856256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">5. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[xscape guy 2003]

Today is a very sad day for a Michael Jackson fan! I used to wait in anticipation of new releases on TV, short films , interviews although very rare! However tonight in the UK Michael Jackson is once again getting judged not by a jury where there is a prosecution and defence but just people that think he is guilty of these hideous crimes.
One thing that really makes my blood boil is persons thinking that MJ fans think he do no wrong! If any evidence was revealed like video or the likes of Sean Lennon, macauley, and many of the other people who still defend Michael said otherwise I would drop defending him, and everything about him Music, merchandise! Everything! It goes against all my morals as a carer and father!

Read the court documents, Adrian Grant's latest interview where he says about channel 4 wanting to do a doc with him, but when none of it was negative they where not interested! As he said shockers, scandals sell , get ratings! Truth and good news, reports don't!

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My 2 cents on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waderobson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#waderobson</a> what I’m saying is truth <a href="https://twitter.com/Oprah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@oprah</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> I understand as a journalist and a reporter the responsibility to try to get both sides so I’m not upset it… <a href="https://t.co/bqtLjgBBCD">https://t.co/bqtLjgBBCD</a></p>&mdash; Darrin Henson MrDhen (@mrdhen) <a href="https://twitter.com/mrdhen/status/1103093324376883200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My family was around Michael Jackson 24/7. So, I think they would’ve know if anything was going on. Also, MJ would never harm a child. These people in this “documentary” whole demeanor is just off. Made me cringe.</p>&mdash; Anna Marie &#127470;&#127481; (@annamariex0) <a href="https://twitter.com/annamariex0/status/1103339107806298112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/2rMuPskLiX">https://t.co/2rMuPskLiX</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1103283334958993409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The MJfam is strong in London today <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/Xa4I1BRJ1m">pic.twitter.com/Xa4I1BRJ1m</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1103277431669043200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/dgHVWPTdfL">pic.twitter.com/dgHVWPTdfL</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1103270149757591552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In light of fresh abuse claims against Michael Jackson, music commentators weigh up whether the star's hits should be muted.<br><br>For more videos, head here: <a href="https://t.co/hhDQuPJRZP">https://t.co/hhDQuPJRZP</a> <a href="https://t.co/78a7jU4jqk">pic.twitter.com/78a7jU4jqk</a></p>&mdash; Sky News (@SkyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1102988394043334656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">5. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[wednesday]

What is going on in here?!

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Thanks @Paris78 for those tweets. I sent Dan Reed a tweet. It was good to see many positive tweets about MJ sent to Dan Reed. He of course doesn't respond to any of them, but hey.

 

[Themidwestcowboy]

I think it's time for me to throw in the towel. There is no coming back from this. I won't be investing in MJ anymore, it's been a fun ride and i've met some lovely people who are still friends but nah this is the end now. The Estate have handled it shambolically there has been very little defence (aside from fans) from people who knew Michael. Sorry but it's over.

Goodbye.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

I think it's time for me to throw in the towel. There is no coming back from this. I won't be investing in MJ anymore, it's been a fun ride and i've met some lovely people who are still friends but nah this is the end now. The Estate have handled it shambolically there has been very little defence (aside from fans) from people who knew Michael. Sorry but it's over.

But why?

Sure, I can agree that the estate should be doing more. That lawsuit can't be the only thing when you're the damn estate of such a huge mega star. And I can't deny I'm losing hope that they will have something up their sleeves. A freaking rebuttal doc should have been ready to launch as soon as this filth aired.

But don't give up. It sounds like you won't support MJ anymore and won't buy stuff of him anymore. Why?

 

[Scream]

I think it's time for me to throw in the towel. There is no coming back from this. I won't be investing in MJ anymore, it's been a fun ride and i've met some lovely people who are still friends but nah this is the end now. The Estate have handled it shambolically there has been very little defence (aside from fans) from people who knew Michael. Sorry but it's over.

This is the wrong time to throw in the towel. This is exactly what they want us to do.
If we all lie down then he'll be wiped from history. This is the time when we need to be defiant in our support. We can't let them win.

Step away from it all and breathe. This isn't the time to fall apart.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Protest carries on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/czNhXjL8sO">pic.twitter.com/czNhXjL8sO</a></p>&mdash; ILIA (@IliaMizani) <a href="https://twitter.com/IliaMizani/status/1103338223412146179?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael’s Children have been through too much already and now to have deal with this is too much. I always keep the Children and Mother in my Prayers! &#128591;&#127997;&#128591;&#127997;</p>&mdash; Brenda Harvey Richie (@BrendaRichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendaRichie/status/1103066266615537665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">5. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Celebrities: Do your research, or shut up. If you haven’t read the court documents, shut up. <br><br>People who mouth off about subjects they know nothing about are imbeciles. <br><br>When they have influence, they’re also dangerous. <br><br>Don’t be a dangerous imbecile. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1103217911978737664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">France has a petition to cancel Leaving Neverland ...Sign it ..and RETWEET the link <a href="https://t.co/0aoDmvIhCj">https://t.co/0aoDmvIhCj</a> TY @chrisboulvrai for sharing this information <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJinnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/8y0yjqWjHp">https://t.co/8y0yjqWjHp</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1103395762606489600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The court documents are available at your dispense if you’re actually interested in making an informed opinion. Y’all are gonna cancel Michael on Twitter until The bassline from don’t stop till you get enough plays at a wedding &#128514; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/VmdVOVu0E4">pic.twitter.com/VmdVOVu0E4</a></p>&mdash; Gary Fabian (@BerryFabian) <a href="https://twitter.com/BerryFabian/status/1103382058989023232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We ain’t playing people! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/boycottC4?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#boycottC4</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/justice4mj?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#justice4mj</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TruthWins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TruthWins</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonIsInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonIsInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/Njauzbb9Oc">pic.twitter.com/Njauzbb9Oc</a></p>&mdash; Mayah (@MayahCamara) <a href="https://twitter.com/MayahCamara/status/1103279761906896897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[DDam]

Let’s be honest everyone, yea there isn’t physical evidence but it’s so extremely rare to have a picture or video of this happening because it’s usually done behind closed doors with only two people.. none of us were there but I guess even during the trial I had just convinced myself that it must have been because of a scheme to get money and maybe it truly was idk still.. but I just wanted it to go away as a fan and was so happy to support him to my friends and family..it was almost like just fun for me.. but now I don’t think I’ll ever be able to again and I’m just hurting

You are free to think and feel how you want. Evidence doesn't just mean picture or video.

In Part 2 it shows a few images from the History teaser of James with MJ and LMP.. I guess I just missed your point I’m sorry

I think the point is that James says Michael cut off contact with him when James reached puberty, which is false as he's clearly past puberty there in the pic, and if they even show evidence that his claim is false in their own documentary that's even more odd, contradicting themselves. It's a common thing that tabloids always claimed saying he befriended young boys to abuse and when they were past puberty he threw them away. It isn't true.

 

[mthalen]

Estate can't really do too much right now: you can't attack two abuse survivors.
Sadly that's the times we live in now.

Maybe if Wade gets his appeal approved they'll go in hard in court.

 

[analogue]

The fact that it's being debated about whether or not radio stations should play Michael's music is really heartbreaking.

 

[DDam]

Flyers and leaflets have been handed out all over London and left in stations!

I mean fine but this also will make people who weren't aware of the film aware of it, and possibly more people will watch it.

 

[Scream]

The fact that it's being debated about whether or not radio stations should play Michael's music is really heartbreaking.

Again, we're in the eye of the storm right now, emotions are running high on both sides. We need to wait until the hype has died down and the dust has settled to assess the real damage. Who knows which way this will go and how things will be in a month or even a week. I wouldn't put to much stock in the threats being made right now, it's all part of the hoopla.

 

[Scream]

I mean fine but this also will make people who weren't aware of the film aware of it, and possibly more people will watch it.

This thing has been everywhere in the UK. You'd have to be living under a rock not to know about it.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Estate can't really do too much right now: you can't attack two abuse survivors.
Sadly that's the times we live in now.

Maybe if Wade gets his appeal approved they'll go in hard in court.

They aren't abuse Survivors.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m watching LN again, this time it’s Funny. Both Wade and James are mentally sick to have allowed themselves and their families to concocted this entire documentary. Should have been called “Living a Neverland Fantasy”</p>&mdash; Bill Whitfield (@MJBODYGUARDS) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJBODYGUARDS/status/1103393984615833600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Safechucks were Michael Jackson groupies (Not Fans) after the Pepsi promo tour they fell in love with MJ and started following his tours all over the world doing all they could to be seen, dressing up like MJ. They even harassed us in Vegas. GTFOH!</p>&mdash; Bill Whitfield (@MJBODYGUARDS) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJBODYGUARDS/status/1103407820471328769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 3 days, nearly 1/2 million people watched Live in Bucharest. <a href="https://t.co/JNZyzBO3Yk">pic.twitter.com/JNZyzBO3Yk</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1103348787961982976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THE LONDON PROTEST IS TRENDING!!!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnoccent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnoccent</a> <a href="https://t.co/GF71uAD8Em">pic.twitter.com/GF71uAD8Em</a></p>&mdash; Lei&#128330; (@themaskoflife) <a href="https://twitter.com/themaskoflife/status/1103334301905702914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After watching 'Surviving Neverland', here's my take. We'll never know what happened between Michael Jackson and those 2 boys. But we do know both of them filed lawsuits trying to get millions. Once someone who doesn't want money details MJ's sexual abuse, then I'll believe it.</p>&mdash; DJ Vlad - VladTV.com (@djvlad) <a href="https://twitter.com/djvlad/status/1103320556345090048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This documentary doesn’t feel right. Michael Jackson was acquitted for molestation charges when alive. He’s not even here to defend himself. Let him RIP.<br><br> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a></p>&mdash; Mita Mistry (@MitaMistry) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitaMistry/status/1103415384550658048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">APPLAUSE <a href="https://t.co/ls9EvwdnhN">https://t.co/ls9EvwdnhN</a></p>&mdash; DespicableDrew (@DespicableDrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/DespicableDrew/status/1103379861014482945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[fraroc04]

Theres one thing that I must admit does bother me. It has nothing to do with the documentary or the Robson/Safechuck claims directly....

Its Anthony King. Once one of MJ's biggest supporters and advocates, he's put on several MJ dance classes and dance workshops, he's done in-depth research into Michael Jackson's stage shows, dissecting all the onstage disappearing acts (like for WDAN and Thriller) and for all intents and purposes, was a major Michael Jackson supporter and fan.

It was a shocking surprise to see someone like him, do a complete 180, now supporting Wade and Jimmy and believing Michael Jackson was guilty of everything he was ever accused of.

 

[john13th]

I think the point is that James says Michael cut off contact with him when James reached puberty, which is false as he's clearly past puberty there in the pic, and if they even show evidence that his claim is false in their own documentary that's even more odd, contradicting themselves. It's a common thing that tabloids always claimed saying he befriended young boys to abuse and when they were past puberty he threw them away. It isn't true.

Yeah exactly, and he also specified in his lawsuit that he worked and participated in the Earth Song video in 1995, as a 17-year old. Even claiming that it was his handfists, not Michaels, that were hitting down in ground of sand in the video.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Theres one thing that I must admit does bother me. It has nothing to do with the documentary or the Robson/Safechuck claims directly....

Its Anthony King. Once one of MJ's biggest supporters and advocates, he's put on several MJ dance classes and dance workshops, he's done in-depth research into Michael Jackson's stage shows, dissecting all the onstage disappearing acts (like for WDAN and Thriller) and for all intents and purposes, was a major Michael Jackson supporter and fan.

It was a shocking surprise to see someone like him, do a complete 180, now supporting Wade and Jimmy and believing Michael Jackson was guilty of everything he was ever accused of.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. He actually seriously believes everything he's been accused of now? Chandler, Arvizo? Right.

 

[La74]

The fact that it's being debated about whether or not radio stations should play Michael's music is really heartbreaking.

And that shows everything that is wrong with the media. He has been accused oh. Go straight to debate should his music be banned without background check. This is a very onesided and manipulative ”documentary” about lawsuits that has already been dismissed and to have that debate without even go through the lawsuits first. They are not qulified to have that discussion. And to people who are upset why don’t discuss it with for example Charles Thomson or TSCM on Twitter.

 

[Very.b]

I wonder why Ben and Riley Lisa&#8217;s child never intervened in Michael&#8217;s defense (if I don&#8217;t miss something) they knew him so well, they spent a lot of time with him and they were very close. I understand privacy but now Michael needs everyone&#8217;s help. I hope that Estate and family are really planning something big behind the scenes.

 

[Cinnamon234]

^^^
They've only had positive things to say about him over the years though especially Riley.

Question for everyone....

Are you not considered a Michael Jackson fan if you disagree with his behaviours around children?

I’m seeing a pattern emerging on here. You’re instantly labelled a hater/troll if you don’t defend Michael 100% or question his relationship with children.

Let’s get real here, an adult Male sharing a bed with a child who is not a relative is pretty strange. I don’t care about how innocent it may be. If this wasn’t Michael Jackson you would all be disgusted with this type of behaviour if it was someone called John Smith who lived at the bottom of the road.

Except we're not talking about John Smith from the bottom of the road. We're talking about a very famous and rich individual. That cannot be ignored.

And if you want to go down that road and say you notice a pattern with MJ, I can also say that I notice a pattern with all these accusers.

In this latest case, they seem money driven. They're the ones suing the estate for millions afterall (a lawsuit which was dismissed).

This is all an act of revenge and driven by greed.

I see right through these two.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

I've asked this before but tomorrow I'm planning on reading the docs of the lawsuit The estate sent to HBO. I recall that it contains a lot of info and I've yet to read it. Where can I get it?

 

[Very.b]

I wonder why Ben and Riley Lisa’s child never intervened in Michael’s defense (if I don’t miss something) they knew him so well, they spent a lot of time with him and they were very close. I understand privacy but now Michael needs everyone’s help. I hope that Estate and family are really planning something big behind the scenes.

 

[CrazyVegasMJ]

When did James state that MJ never talked to him again after he hit puberty? Did he say that in the doc? I might’ve missed it

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No one has held Dan's feet to the fire like <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@piersmorgan</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/GMB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GMB</a> today — it's the duty of journalists to do so. In response, squirming Dan, so used to softball interviews in the US, claims Piers towed the Jackson line, showing that he, like <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a>, can't bear scrutiny. <a href="https://t.co/LokKqCv6vK">https://t.co/LokKqCv6vK</a></p>&mdash; Steve Dennis (@SteveDennis71) <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveDennis71/status/1103366242188984320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Facts don’t lie. People do. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/Pn7T2bOr6m">pic.twitter.com/Pn7T2bOr6m</a></p>&mdash; #MJINNOCENT (@MJStarOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJStarOfficial/status/1103387472011161600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m actually disgusted that a certified icon who did so much for these kids is now being publicly ridiculed and accused on TV worldwide after his death cos some people are trying to cash in. No chance of him defending himself then, right? These lowlifes are evil <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a></p>&mdash; N&#923;VIN KUNDR&#923; (@NavinKundra) <a href="https://twitter.com/NavinKundra/status/1103411508028035073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nah this Michael Jackson thing is bullshit. Motivated by money. I ain't having any of it. More I read the more dodgy it looks.</p>&mdash; Steve Brookstein (@stevebrookstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/stevebrookstein/status/1103334918690619393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Monique speaking on Oprah’s decision to go against Michael Jackson <a href="https://t.co/94WH77kmXF">pic.twitter.com/94WH77kmXF</a></p>&mdash; dez. (@breakofdez) <a href="https://twitter.com/breakofdez/status/1103393038435577865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the best articles I have seen yet. Read and share!<br><br>Why is there so little media skepticism about Leaving Neverland and its allegations against Michael Jackson? - World Socialist Web Site: <a href="https://t.co/qQ3eNaXS9W">https://t.co/qQ3eNaXS9W</a></p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1103360828475084800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[nextbigthing56]

Sorry if this has already been posted..

**FACT-BOMB: The evidence the media refuses to show you about Michael Jackson’s accusers**

For five years, these men – both professional actors – have been suing Michael Jackson’s estate for hundreds of millions of dollars. This lawsuit has generated thousands of pages of court records: witness statements, motions, depositions and disclosure. These public documents PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the men are lying. The whole media knows about these documents, but are refusing to report on them.

*Both men strenuously defended Jackson, including under oath, for decades, and only decided they’d been molested years after his death, when they were both in financial trouble and filed a lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars. That lawsuit was thrown out of court – twice – but the men are in the middle of an appeal, giving them a gigantic financial motive to lie.

*Since filing their lawsuit, both men have repeatedly changed their stories, frequently telling directly contradictory versions of the same supposed events. For example, Wade Robson has told at least four directly contradictory stories about the first time Jackson supposedly abused him.

*In the lawsuit, Robson was caught lying under oath so brazenly that the judge threw out his entire witness statement and said no rational juror could ever believe his account.

*Between 2012 and 2014, Robson wrote two drafts of an abuse memoir and tried unsuccessfully to sell them to publishers. Meanwhile, he lied under oath and said he’d never discussed his allegations with anyone except his lawyers. When the Jackson estate discovered he’d actually been shopping books, the court ordered him to produce the drafts as evidence. They revealed the story of his abuse had changed significantly from one draft to the next.

*Robson was also ordered to release his emails as evidence. He breached the order repeatedly, first by claiming they didn’t exist, then by simply refusing to hand them over. Then he redacted all the emails between himself and his family members and cited ‘attorney-client’ privilege, even though none of his family are attorneys.

*When he eventually complied with the court order and released the emails, they revealed that at the time he was constructing his lawsuit and abuse memoir, he was researching and emailing himself links to old tabloid newspaper stories about abuse allegations against Michael Jackson.

*The emails showed Robson found one particular story from the early 1990s which specifically named he and his mother. He emailed it to his mother and asked whether it was true. She replied, ‘Wow, none of that is true’. He then included it in his story anyway.

*Emails also revealed that throughout 2011/12, Robson was lobbying Jackson’s estate for a job directing and choreographing an official Michael Jackson tribute show in Las Vegas. His campaign to secure this role had included sending emails explaining that his amazing friendship with Jackson meant nobody was better qualified for the role than he was, and he was devoted to doing the best job he possibly could ‘for Michael’. After being told someone else had got the job, he suddenly claimed he’d been abused and filed a creditor’s claim against the estate for millions of dollars.

*Months later, according to Jimmy Safechuck, he flipped on the TV and saw Wade Robson being interviewed about his lawsuit. In that moment, Safechuck suddenly remembered that he had been abused by Jackson as well, so decided to join the lawsuit. He didn’t mention that this epiphany coincided exactly with his inheritance circling the drain after a relative died and the surviving siblings started suing each other – including him – for control of the family business.

*Robson was also ordered to produce his diaries as evidence. In them, he’d written about how these allegations might rescue his failing career by making him ‘relatable and relevant’. He also wrote, ‘It’s time for me to get mine.’ When questioned under oath about what he’d meant when he wrote that, he refused to answer.

*Both men tell stories in the TV show which directly contradict stories told under oath in their lawsuit. In fact, they have continued to change their stories as recently as within the last week.

*For example, Jimmy Safechuck claims under oath in the lawsuit that he only remembered Jackson had abused him in 2013 when he turned on the TV and saw Robson. Yet in tonight’s TV show and interviews promoting it, he claims he knew he’d been abused in 2005 and thus, when asked to testify for Jackson’s defence ‘towards the end of the trial’, he refused to do so.

*But that’s a provable lie. Safechuck was never asked to testify for Jackson’s defence. The judge ruled long before the trial began that testimony could only be heard about certain children, and Safechuck was not one of them. All testimony about Safechuck was literally banned from the courtroom. So Jackson’s defence cannot have asked him to testify – and certainly not after the trial was already underway.

*Robson claimed in a BBC interview last week that Jackson had abused him ‘hundreds of times’. Yet his mother’s sworn testimony is that they went to Neverland roughly 14 times but Jackson was almost never there. She estimates the number of times they visited the ranch and he was actually there was four.

*Questioned about their financial motive, the men now say they don’t care about money and are only suing to embolden other abuse victims by holding the Jackson estate accountable. This is a provable lie. The lawsuit was originally filed under seal and Robson tried to extract a settlement from the estate with zero publicity. Only when the estate refused to pay a bean did he go public.

I could continue, but if you’re still on board with the TV show and its accusers at this point, you are irrational to the point of mania.

This ‘documentary’ covers up all of this information, instead presenting two professional actors’ heavily edited and completely unchallenged testimony without ever examining their credibility, their proven lies and perjury, their constantly changing stories or their financial motives.

 

[wednesday]

"You try to get me to lose the man I really am" - Michael Jackson