Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

The Me Too movement has led to the media in particular of believing accusers. There has been a high profile case in the last couple of years in the UK of singer Cliff Richard (he is less well known in America). He was accused of abuse. The Police kept the case open for around 2 years without charging or even arresting him. There was even some collusion between the Police and the BBC which meant that the search of his home was broadcast live on TV. Eventually the Police dropped the case and Cliff successfully sued the BBC.

I only mention this case because I see this story today on the BBC website that Cliff is giving his support to victims of false accusations. This is important as the reality that there are many false accusers needs to be back on the agenda.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47502383.
 
MJRemixed;4248059 said:
Talk radio are asking should
Mjs music be banned, in their debate this morning. If anyone would like to tweet them with clear concise opinions on how mj is innocent and these ppl are lying, so a ban on his music is not necessary then please feel free. Present the facts.

It’s a phone in radio show but they are accepting tweets too.

‪@ alexisconran ‬
@ ‪talkRADIO ‬

If anyone is feeling brave to phone in live:
0344 499 1000

Listen here h**p://talkradio.co.uk/live

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I sure as hell will sent a tweet. This whole crap about banning music is as pathetic as it gets anyway. While we're at it let's boycott any Polanski movies, let's ban Woodie Allen, let's also ban David Bowie.

The first two are sick ****s, proven too. Bowie are merely claims from what I've read, which is exactly like LN, just claims.
 
I’m getting so sick of how all the articles in the media are talking about this like it is 100% proven and factual that Michael was a paedophilie. It really is disgusting that they’re allowed to present unproven accusations from individuals that have a clear motive to and proven track record of lying as factual truth.
There really is no justice. What is the world coming to, anyone can say anything or accuse someone of anything and we just take it as truth now? With no opportunity given for a defence.
 
MJRemixed;4248059 said:
Talk radio are asking should
Mjs music be banned, in their debate this morning. If anyone would like to tweet them with clear concise opinions on how mj is innocent and these ppl are lying, so a ban on his music is not necessary then please feel free. Present the facts.

It’s a phone in radio show but they are accepting tweets too.

‪@ alexisconran ‬
@ ‪talkRADIO ‬

If anyone is feeling brave to phone in live:
0344 499 1000

Listen here h**p://talkradio.co.uk/live

Replace ** with tt

This AlexisConran has a interesting picture in a tweet of hers. Look!

Check out @alexisconran’s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/alexisconran/status/919880347222933504?s=09
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4248063 said:
This AlexisConran has a interesting picture in a tweet of hers. Look!

Check out @alexisconran’s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/alexisconran/status/919880347222933504?s=09

Interesting.
Thanks please tweet.

Just to note that **** Dan Wooton is also associated with talkRADIO (he has his own separate show) and there’s even a tweet endorsed by him on their main page encouraging ppl To watch LN and the Oprah special. So it’s impor to get our voice out there.
 
AG5050;4248062 said:
I’m getting so sick of how all the articles in the media are talking about this like it is 100% proven and factual that Michael was a paedophilie. It really is disgusting that they’re allowed to present unproven accusations from individuals that have a clear motive to and proven track record of lying as factual truth.
There really is no justice. What is the world coming to, anyone can say anything or accuse someone of anything and we just take it as truth now? With no opportunity given for a defence.

Don't click on it! They whrite this because those hedlines get attention, money and ratings and are not interesting in the truth!
When you support it they will whrite more!!!
This is how it works.
Even commemts with informations help their ratings.
In YouTube its the same.
Don't click on negative MJ video when you don't have an apperatus which did not play the video automatically when you click on it like a Wii U ( I can go in the comment section without the video starts playing)!

We want that the media calm down about this subject.
We shouldnt help to fill their, Reeds, Wades and James pokets, get famous and being relevant.
This only produces more interviews and money for them.
 
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MJRemixed;4248064 said:
Interesting.
Thanks please tweet.

Just to note that **** Dan Wooton is also associated with talkRADIO (he has his own separate show) and there’s even a tweet endorsed by him on their main page encouraging ppl To watch LN and the Oprah special. So it’s impor to get our voice out there.

He's a right ****
He works for the Scum newspaper too,says it all really.
 
I’ve recently found that rather than being confrontational I’ve had more success just spreading doubt. For instance a colleague asked i saw LN and that it proved MJ was guilty. I said it didn’t look good but didn’t he think it odd that it was so one sided. I also mentioned that Piers Morgan had said there was a multi million dollar lawsuit going on. Then I finished with saying I guess it’s always about money. I didn’t go into anymore detail than that. A bit later that day I heard him talking to someone else in the office. When he was asked if he’d seen LN he said “It’s a load of bollocks. They just want money”. No fights, no arguments and another convert to the truth. I honestly think the majority of people (who are not fans) have too many other things in their lives to be interested in this. Next week most will have moved on to the next news story.
 
MJRemixed;4248064 said:
Interesting.
Thanks please tweet.

Just to note that **** Dan Wooton is also associated with talkRADIO (he has his own separate show) and there’s even a tweet endorsed by him on their main page encouraging ppl To watch LN and the Oprah special. So it’s impor to get our voice out there.

I just replied to his tweet that he points to about this Matt guy. Calling the two liars brave and what not for coming forward. It's about 7 tweets I sent to Alexis there explaining Wade and James motives.
 
Yeah I think MJsupporters are not so stupid to support tabloids like the dayly mail!
When are so stupid and wanna belive tabloids when it comes to Michael Jackson without being sceptical amd start reseaching and wanna hate an defenceless man they should do it!

Again I don't understand what your intentions are with this kind of informations and depressing comments in this thread!

I will try to ignore your comments you can not stop for one day. Annoying influencer!!!
 
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The media are trying to create a mind set re banning music by bringing it up in the first place. Create the question put it into ppls thougts when they were never thinking or asking that question to begin with. Its called planting an agenda.

The public have spoken already. Sales up. They cant handle that and will keep pushing their B.S while refusing to publish all the evidence that doesnt fit their agenda. Just like brandi said re GMA and others cancelling her interviews.

You shouldnt bother getting into arguments on twitter. The best attack is to be civil and friendly as that annoys the hell out of the trolls. Remember aswell that the gen public are clueless of the facts because the media refuse to report them.their ignorance is explainable. Link to websites and you tube vids which show the facts. Ppl who are generally intrested in the truth will then look at the info provided. These are the ppl you should concentrate on. Dont waste your time on haters.
 
Will you all please start using the ignore function with speed demon. If you stop reading and replying to them they will get bored very quickly.
 
Next week in the UK it will ALL be about Brexit. That and knife crime will dominate the news. And it looks like North Korea is to begin missile testing again which will be major international news
 
Hey guys, my friend just sent me a link to TheDailyMail and I was like whyyyyy. But then I saw they reported on MJ's former lawyer calling Wade and James liars. That is quite something for a MSM source to cover.
 
Yes alot of celebrities don't want to defend MJ.....Tom Mesereau said that exact thing when they approached some for the trial.....after he was acquitted they were praising him.
 
Its definitly the right time to talk about on the two autobigraphic books MJ wrote where he talkes a lot about children

Dancing the Dream

 
1nn5;4248081 said:
10/03/2019 : Moderators, when will you disable the inscription to MJJC ?

Do you mean the ability for people to join the site? Don’t you think that could potentially be isolating new supporters of fans who discover this community from joining us?
 
That means, no new member created for LN ;)

Hmmm, I'm a bit conflicted about that. Because genuine people could be trying to join in too.

Goddamn it. A female friend of mine, whom I told to watch two Razorfist videos a week or two ago is now watching After Neverland. I strongly advised her to watch the Razorfist videos before watching any of LN or Oprah's trash, but I really doubt she has watched the videos I sent her, even though she said she was going to.

Why subject yourself to the Oprah crap?
 
AG5050;4248091 said:
Do you mean the ability for people to join the site? Don’t you think that could potentially be isolating new supporters of fans who discover this community from joining us?

I think the opposite is the case.
They wanna have a save place when they belive in Michaels innocence and can work on his vidification without reading all this grarbage and negativity they must read online in articles, comment sections when they defending MJ.

We have enough threads in this fromum were doubters, influencers and depressed people can post, but all these discussions should be NOT part of this thread.
But maybe the title of this thread could be better.
 
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A french chronicer defended well MJ in a french program.
Before reading what he wrote, he said, I admire MJ and I will always defend him.
"It's not understanding anything at #MichaelJackson. Michael Jackson was a child, but a child does not sleep with other children. Get him peace in his Neverland eternity where sex does not exist more than death! "
https://twitter.com/lesterriens/status/1104458409817112577
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hope you don't mind, but I'll take that gag out of his mouth.<br><br>You, fans, are being his voice.<br><br>So, he's not mute.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjinnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/2lxcFDbMyX">pic.twitter.com/2lxcFDbMyX</a></p>&mdash; LaVelle Smith Jr. (@lavellesmithjr_) <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_/status/1104170711155961856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona;4248098 said:
I think the opposite is the case.
They wanna have a save place when they belive in Michaels innocence and can work on his vidification without reading all this grarbage and negativity they must read online in articles, comment sections when they defending MJ.

We have enough threads in this fromum were doubters, influencers and depressed people can post, but all these dicussions should be part of this thread.
But maybe the title of this thread could be better.
I agree. I just don’t think we should be stopping new people from joining.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the BEST interview about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> saga, journalistic shortcomings, and facts around the MJ allegations so far:<br><br>&#128279; <a href="https://t.co/nBAS6vyFGa">https://t.co/nBAS6vyFGa</a><br><br>Investigative journalist <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEThomson</a> delivers the cold hard facts in a cool, calm, reasonable &amp; rational masterclass &#128293;</p>&mdash; Damien Shields (@damienshields) <a href="https://twitter.com/damienshields/status/1104586784434872321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Brandi Jackson interview is so good - <a href="https://t.co/cb7xO28hPd">https://t.co/cb7xO28hPd</a></p>&mdash; Ivy (@Ivy_4MJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ivy_4MJ/status/1104587896370147328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In my humble opinion, right now is not the time for any in fighting, Forget whatever issues you might have with any other fan and join forces to fight together. Our strength is in our numbers and how loud and how far away we can spread our voices defending Michael.</p>&mdash; Ivy (@Ivy_4MJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ivy_4MJ/status/1104570996403724289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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When i open Chrome browser on my phone I see a list of new articles and Metro is posting about Latoya during the early nineties. HOWWWWWW?

Didn't any actual mainstream media source cover the news that this was all lies and that she was being abused herself? How is this possible?
 
When i open Chrome browser on my phone I see a list of new articles and Metro is posting about Latoya during the early nineties. HOWWWWWW?

Didn't any actual mainstream media source cover the news that this was all lies and that she was being abused herself? How is this possible?

I know that MJ facts posted a video about LaToya a few days ago.
Maybe they send it to a few tabloids?!
 
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