Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh shut up..you obviously don’t know Michael Jackson and how dare you respond in that manner to those who know him. Shut up!</p>&mdash; Paul Mooney (@PaulEalyMooney) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulEalyMooney/status/1109562998283272192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That sounds about right. <a href="https://t.co/WWlEAPC37p">https://t.co/WWlEAPC37p</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1109673133416419329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That sounds about right. <a href="https://t.co/WWlEAPC37p">https://t.co/WWlEAPC37p</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1109673133416419329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> Chilean fans right now, hours before The Jacksons concert &#10024;&#127464;&#127473; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheJacksonsEnChile?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheJacksonsEnChile</a> <a href="https://t.co/IbfC2MgDhL">pic.twitter.com/IbfC2MgDhL</a></p>&mdash; mapi&#127464;&#127473; #MJInnocent (@moonwalkjade) <a href="https://twitter.com/moonwalkjade/status/1109551562869878785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/gv1RTkNJ1P">https://t.co/gv1RTkNJ1P</a></p>&mdash; Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/status/1109597791641366528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">STOP trying to sell your concert tickets on <br>Mr. Jackson’s documentary ALLEGATIONS &amp; FOOLISHNESS . <a href="https://t.co/aCt1dn2kH3">https://t.co/aCt1dn2kH3</a></p>&mdash; Stephanie Mills (@PrettyMill1) <a href="https://twitter.com/PrettyMill1/status/1109493310165536768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How do know were you there? Mr Jackson is not here to defend himself . Go sit down and let the King Rest In Peace. Now I don told y’all. <a href="https://t.co/2VZo2su1wA">https://t.co/2VZo2su1wA</a></p>&mdash; Stephanie Mills (@PrettyMill1) <a href="https://twitter.com/PrettyMill1/status/1109487447229034497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ms. Ross is still the BOSS!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/DianaRoss?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DianaRoss</a> <a href="https://t.co/szg0d5wrSw">https://t.co/szg0d5wrSw</a></p>&mdash; Debbie Allen (@msdebbieallen) <a href="https://twitter.com/msdebbieallen/status/1109506666888904705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Germany strikes all the right notes with Michael Jackson: On The Wall. <a href="https://t.co/C6sOKZaaLJ">https://t.co/C6sOKZaaLJ</a></p>&mdash; MJVibe (@Mjvibe) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mjvibe/status/1109502625366593537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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Huge friend of mine went out to dinner with friends of his and they just HAD to bring up MJ, knowing full well that he would defend him all the way.

Nonsense like "where there's smoke..." was thrown around. Or "come on man, he was quite a strange one, can't deny that." as if that directly meant his guilt. The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

But it even escalated. One guy got in his face and he said "how do you even know he's innocent?" and he said "the facts don't lie dude" and this was reason for the guy to punch him on the lip. Sigh.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame!!!!! Thank you!!!!!! Thank you!!!!! Thank you!!!!! I hope everyone enjoyed the halftime show!!!!<a href="https://twitter.com/ndwbb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ndwbb</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NotreDame?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NotreDame</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NCAA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NCAA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/marchmadness?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@marchmadness</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/espnW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@espnW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/espn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@espn</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/bethunecookman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bethunecookman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KidofPop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KidofPop</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarchMadness?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MarchMadness</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BethuneCookman?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BethuneCookman</a> <a href="https://t.co/HbbRHuQlPs">pic.twitter.com/HbbRHuQlPs</a></p>&mdash; Ziynne - Kid of Pop (@KidofPop) <a href="https://twitter.com/KidofPop/status/1109622332031725568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/emmamuseum?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@emmamuseum</a> for your integrity on deciding to go forward with MJ 'On The Wall' later this year. Very much appreciate it! I'll be there on opening day&#128591; Can't wait to meet fellow fans and experience this together.</p>&mdash; MJFinland (@MJFanFinland) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJFanFinland/status/1109710643509252096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One person at a time. Every single person makes a difference. <a href="https://t.co/crTnrrxTYb">https://t.co/crTnrrxTYb</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1109578205013303301?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Is Michael Jackson canceled?”<br>Me:<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/rU0piuJH4W">pic.twitter.com/rU0piuJH4W</a></p>&mdash; Meshell Deal (@MeshellDeal) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeshellDeal/status/1109260085941993472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you Bill, we all know what media is hungry for. But they can't fool us especially in the internet era <a href="https://t.co/thGhoetx6n">https://t.co/thGhoetx6n</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1109624377094471680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have to agree. I am a lifelong BS fan...and I don’t understand these words. I am a survivor...but I think the docum stinks. Something isn’t right, and MJ isn’t here to defend himself. But these remarks are something else entirely.</p>&mdash; Tony Pearson (@sign543) <a href="https://twitter.com/sign543/status/1109571931936821248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr">Chile Michael Jackson Fans Protest <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/8aHvdgAEfm">pic.twitter.com/8aHvdgAEfm</a></p>&mdash; #MJINNOCENT (@MJStarOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJStarOfficial/status/1109759872940367872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notice how hundreds of Jackson’s friends, family and former colleagues speak out in his defense for no financial gain &amp; yet each time they take a platform this film or the media haven’t offered them, they’re attacked. Where are all Wade &amp; James’s friends? They’ve all been silent!</p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1109739816315428864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MICHAEL INOCENTE !<br>Michael Jackson’s fans in Argentina &#127462;&#127479; peaceful protest.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFamUNITE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFamUNITE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJTruthSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJTruthSquad</a> <a href="https://t.co/5ZhI8dLwFG">pic.twitter.com/5ZhI8dLwFG</a></p>&mdash; LoveMJJAlways (@LoveMJJAlways) <a href="https://twitter.com/LoveMJJAlways/status/1109726222794158082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow. This is what I’m talking about. THANK YOU GUYS. God bless you and your families forever. <a href="https://t.co/M2xfz28agN">https://t.co/M2xfz28agN</a></p>&mdash; Voiceover Actress &#128483;&#128266; (@JahelMorga) <a href="https://twitter.com/JahelMorga/status/1109692272944263169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/DianaRoss?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DianaRoss</a> shows her support for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a><a href="https://t.co/iYRVsEeOol">https://t.co/iYRVsEeOol</a></p>&mdash; HotNewHipHop (@HotNewHipHop) <a href="https://twitter.com/HotNewHipHop/status/1109545247057416192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/aMANUrsCXT">pic.twitter.com/aMANUrsCXT</a></p>&mdash; LizMJ (@LizMJ9) <a href="https://twitter.com/LizMJ9/status/1109689287669366784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonIsInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonIsInnocent</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PiratesInNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PiratesInNeverland</a> <br>After a night of drinking (every night in Japan), and thinking, I just can’t find a shred of evidence to suggest the hucksters in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> are peddling anything other than Grade A bullshit. <a href="https://t.co/TOLCoSVesi">pic.twitter.com/TOLCoSVesi</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Michaels (@ReasonBound) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReasonBound/status/1109490498169765888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">Buenos Aires, Argentina. &#127462;&#127479;&#9829;&#65039;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <br>Marcha organizada por: <a href="https://twitter.com/lacortedelreyd1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@lacortedelreyd1</a> <a href="https://t.co/CFWNe10eCI">pic.twitter.com/CFWNe10eCI</a></p>&mdash; Sebastián Martínez &#127769; (@SebasMjj) <a href="https://twitter.com/SebasMjj/status/1109585504343937025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Leaving Neverland&quot; Protest in Chile <a href="https://t.co/eFLKExGpSc">https://t.co/eFLKExGpSc</a></p>&mdash; MJVibe (@Mjvibe) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mjvibe/status/1109720012842065921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's time to fight back! <a href="https://t.co/D1PyaHkPDi">https://t.co/D1PyaHkPDi</a></p>&mdash; MJVibe (@Mjvibe) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mjvibe/status/1109716237939081216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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Huge friend of mine went out to dinner with friends of his and they just HAD to bring up MJ, knowing full well that he would defend him all the way.

Nonsense like "where there's smoke..." was thrown around. Or "come on man, he was quite a strange one, can't deny that." as if that directly meant his guilt. The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

But it even escalated. One guy got in his face and he said "how do you even know he's innocent?" and he said "the facts don't lie dude" and this was reason for the guy to punch him on the lip. Sigh.
Well, how does that fool knows MJ is guilty. See that is the stupidity. And being strange does not equal guilt. No, that guy had other issues on his mind to want to hit. Sound like jealousy was already there. I hope your friend file a police report and get him charged with simple battery.
 
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It has been 26 years since the Chandlers came up with their allegations and they still have not been exposed what makes you believe these two will be exposed? They are very much protected by the media and Hollywood. I hope you are not counting on Weistman to expose the truth.
Soundmind, sometimes it takes an event to happen for all else to be expose. During Chandlers, we did have the internet either. You can believe now, attention is going to be brought back on him and his family. You can NEVER look at timelines as the end of all. Keep the faith.
 
Huge friend of mine went out to dinner with friends of his and they just HAD to bring up MJ, knowing full well that he would defend him all the way.

Nonsense like "where there's smoke..." was thrown around. Or "come on man, he was quite a strange one, can't deny that." as if that directly meant his guilt. The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

But it even escalated. One guy got in his face and he said "how do you even know he's innocent?" and he said "the facts don't lie dude" and this was reason for the guy to punch him on the lip. Sigh.

Ahh the famous Hasty Conclusion Fallacy.
 
Arvizo invited zonen amongst others to his wedding. His father was not in on the allegations.didnt support them one bit as he had been accused of exactly the same thing by janet. And arvizo only recently was lieing under oath again to protect his brother during his court case for atracking etc his girlfriend

Agree the estate should be sending out public statements to ba ba amongst others. Calling out the ignorant stupidity. The excuse that it will give it attention does not fly as its everywhere anyway. It just makes you look weak and guilty that you sit and say nothing. We saw that for the last 25 years already.
I think the family should attack celebs who do not know nothing and put them in their place.
 
The answer is ready they still love him and care about him. Victims cope in different ways. ****ing sociopaths. He groomed them so much even Joy liking Pro mj posts will be dismissed as still being groomed and seduced by mj.
That is a load of crap. This guy came out in 2013 with this BS sued in 2014. Aint no one does that and been on the STAND UNDER OATH. And still suing.
 
The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

Bill Clinton has money and was the President and over the FBI and they caught his lies. That guy is a fool. See how stupid they sound. People like that makes me question him.
 
I want to make sure I have something straight about the Cirque show. Wade was turned down as lead choreographer, but is it true that he was offered a lesser role by the estate and then he decided to pull out?
 
The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

Bill Clinton has money and was the President and over the FBI and they caught his lies. That guy is a fool. See how stupid they sound. People like that makes me question him.
Thank you! I might use that one myself in the future!
 
I want to make sure I have something straight about the Cirque show. Wade was turned down as lead choreographer, but is it true that he was offered a lesser role by the estate and then he decided to pull out?
No, Branca said that Jamie king might have offered him a role as a dancer but no offer came to him from the estate at all definitely. The point Branca was trying to make that the estate did not want him at all and never offered him anything but they cannot speak for Jamie King. King was his rival and he was not going to offer him anything and wade was not looking to be a mere dancer. I am sure he consider that the ultimate insult.
 
No, Branca said that Jamie king might have offered him a role as a dancer but no offer came to him from the estate at all definitely. The point Branca was trying to make that the estate did not want him at all and never offered him anything but they cannot speak for Jamie King.

Thanks.
 
Huge friend of mine went out to dinner with friends of his and they just HAD to bring up MJ, knowing full well that he would defend him all the way.

Nonsense like "where there's smoke..." was thrown around. Or "come on man, he was quite a strange one, can't deny that." as if that directly meant his guilt. The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

But it even escalated. One guy got in his face and he said "how do you even know he's innocent?" and he said "the facts don't lie dude" and this was reason for the guy to punch him on the lip. Sigh.

Not really 'friends of his' then.....

I'm really curious as to why people are so 'invested' in MJ being guilty of the Robson and Safechuck allegations. What have they got to lose in looking into the facts that show the allegations are false? If this was an argument about a well-known celeb vs MJ, I could understand it....but who cares that Robson and Safechuck are liars? I think you have to really hate MJ, if you are not even willing to look at the evidence. And why would MJ be so hated by ordinary people who never knew him? (I can understand the press /media / HBO/ Channel 4 people being annoyed, but ordinary folk have nothing to lose in this argument. ) Is everyone suddenly so stupid that they think an accuser (for money) is the same as a victim? I really understand that women get upset because of 'Me too', but I'm not sure where (except for jealousy and hate) the male anger is coming from....

(I don't recall a great outpouring of 'oh, he was guilty anyway' after the 2005 court case....)
 
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Agree. Been weak and nice gets you know where
After Barbara and Jamie nonsense, EVRYBODY needs to come out swing now. When U sit back and exmine this, this is very dangerous now even for these @#$%% as celebs (Even all of us) which they seem to not be able to see. Barbara does not have the best reputation when it comes to treatment of people. Now, what if one of those people who worked for her wants to make money and get others who do not like Barbara (an this include jamie Lee as well) and do a documentary fill with lies on how she abused her staff. What is she going to do or Jamie? Say it is all lies. Oh wait, but you 2 believe 2 liars on MJ, why we shouldn't believe people who talk about them with no proof and who has a pattern of lying and stories does not add up? See what can happen
 
Not really 'friends of his' then.....

I'm really curious as to why people are so 'invested' in MJ being guilty of the Robson and Safechuck allegations. What have they got to lose in looking into the facts that show the allegations are false? If this was an argument about a well-known celeb vs MJ, I could understand it....but who cares that Robson and Safechuck are liars? I think you have to really hate MJ, if you are not even willing to look at the evidence. And why would MJ be so hated by ordinary people who never knew him? (I can understand the press /media / HBO/ Channel 4 people being annoyed, but ordinary folk have nothing to lose in this argument. ) Is everyone suddenly so stupid that they think an accuser (for money) is the same as a victim? I really understand that women get upset because of 'Me too', but I'm not sure where (except for jealousy and hate) the male anger is coming from....

(I don't recall a great outpouring of 'oh, he was guilty anyway' after the 2005 court case....)
Because it is something deeper within them. Jealousy, racism, personal reflection on something they did, etc.
 
After Barbara and Jamie nonsense, EVRYBODY needs to come out swing now. When U sit back and exmine this, this is very dangerous now even for these @#$%% as celebs (Even all of us) which they seem to not be able to see. Barbara does not have the best reputation when it comes to treatment of people. Now, what if one of those people who worked for her wants to make money and get others who do not like Barbara (an this include jamie Lee as well) and do a documentary fill with lies on how she abused her staff. What is she going to do or Jamie? Say it is all lies. Oh wait, but you 2 believe 2 liars on MJ, why we shouldn't believe people who talk about them with no proof and who has a pattern of lying and stories does not add up? See what can happen

The family members do not want to lose their chances of making it in Hollywood again not like they have any chance anyway. I agree they need to be very aggressive also that's will not get them anywhere they will be hated on more if that even possible
 
Huge friend of mine went out to dinner with friends of his and they just HAD to bring up MJ, knowing full well that he would defend him all the way.

Nonsense like "where there's smoke..." was thrown around. Or "come on man, he was quite a strange one, can't deny that." as if that directly meant his guilt. The FBI investigation didn't mean a thing they said, it just meant MJ had all the money to hide it properly. "

But it even escalated. One guy got in his face and he said "how do you even know he's innocent?" and he said "the facts don't lie dude" and this was reason for the guy to punch him on the lip. Sigh.

There is certainly an awful lot of hatred towards MJ.
I mean when it gets to that point you have to wonder what is going on in people's heads that they simply won't accept facts but wholeheartedly will accept LN as proof.
 
The family members do not want to lose their chances of making it in Hollywood again not like they have any chance anyway. I agree they need to be very aggressive also that's will not get them anywhere they will be hated on more if that even possible
Then they can start their own stuff. They got the name. Tyler Perry did it. hollywood rejected him. It is too many venues now even online.
 
There is certainly an awful lot of hatred towards MJ.
I mean when it gets to that point you have to wonder what is going on in people's heads that they simply won't accept facts but wholeheartedly will accept LN as proof.
And there is a lot of love as well. But haters talk the loudest.
 
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