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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Just my little ole opinion, BUT I don't believe there will be a book on the market by Robson. First of all, who would buy it? The time to have published a book by Wade would have been when he first submitted his 2 different manuscripts.

P.S. I wonder why they passed on his book in the first place. If I recall correctly (from Wade's very own e-mail), 3 publishers PASSED and they were waiting to hear from the 4th publisher (whom I'm guessing, passed also).

In a perfect world, somebody would have "leaked" Robson's 2 manuscripts and then we could compare them both, side-by-side. Wouldn't that be lovely!!!
 
As I said before and I'll say it again. "Leaving Neverland" is now crashing and burning, HBO is already crashingand burning so fast that the film itself is coming close to extinction soon.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Crowds leaving the late <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJOne?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJOne</a> show in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LasVegas?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LasVegas</a> last night, earlier show (which I didn’t get any pics) was much busier. Please keep supporting this show! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AmplifyMichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AmplifyMichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TuesdayThoughts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TuesdayThoughts</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Cirque?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Cirque</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MandalayBay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MandalayBay</a> <a href="https://t.co/HdlmPtzeUN">pic.twitter.com/HdlmPtzeUN</a></p>&mdash; HaightAshbury (@AZJMJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/AZJMJ/status/1125778597510180864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">7. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade a minute! He's changed his story - AGAIN! He says &quot;From one of my Dad's sisters I found out the idea I could have been sexually abused...&quot; I thought he &quot;remembered&quot; after visualizing his son being abused....<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJTruthSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJTruthSquad</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WadeRobson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WadeRobson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/QWkGAEYLBX">https://t.co/QWkGAEYLBX</a></p>&mdash; KerryWard (@FallAgainMJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/FallAgainMJ/status/1126111153531367424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Leaving Neverland was falling apart at the seams before ever being released but they still rammed it through anyway. <a href="https://t.co/TsIGDHFOJ6">https://t.co/TsIGDHFOJ6</a></p>&mdash; DespicableDrew (@DespicableDrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/DespicableDrew/status/1126131913553534976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/EntertainMeLTD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EntertainMeLTD</a> production. Pointing out the facts! Knocking Leaving Neverland on the head! This production company have done their research. Out next month! <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mikesmallcombe1</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkalesterMark?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarkalesterMark</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/michaeljackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#michaeljackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnoccent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnoccent</a> <a href="https://t.co/rgsRFfnQeY">pic.twitter.com/rgsRFfnQeY</a></p>&mdash; Matt Fiddes (@MattFiddesUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattFiddesUK/status/1126140926198472704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#128420;&#10024; &#8294;<a href="https://twitter.com/Madonna?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Madonna</a>&#8297; &#128077;&#127998; <a href="https://t.co/1bEbMbdvUg">https://t.co/1bEbMbdvUg</a></p>&mdash; Travis Payne (@ItsTravisPayne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ItsTravisPayne/status/1125852471203483648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">7. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Madonna?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Madonna</a> reacts to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> accusations against <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a>: “People are innocent until proven guilty&quot; <a href="https://t.co/ffFUnfW4vm">https://t.co/ffFUnfW4vm</a></p>&mdash; ET Canada (@ETCanada) <a href="https://twitter.com/ETCanada/status/1125925547039707136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Madonna?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Madonna</a> comes out in support of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a>. So does his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GodDaughter?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GodDaughter</a>. It's so easy to libel dead people and to make fortunes seeming believable. The disgusting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FalseAllegationsIndustry?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FalseAllegationsIndustry</a> continues to thrive but so do the quantity of decent people prepared to deny the lies.</p>&mdash; Jonathan King (@KingOfHits) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingOfHits/status/1125785194533916672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">7. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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Here's a good one:

THE BLAST (an online media site, created by one of the guys that once worked at TMZ) caught up with Greedy Reed yesterday at LAX and asked him about THE TRAIN STATION STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reed, of course, tried to play it off. BUT he must have been pissed that it's STILL being brought up and that folks are still talking about it.

Greedy was also asked about Robson and Safechuck testifying previously that they were NEVER abused by Michael. Greedy referred to his mockumentary, instead of answer the question directly. LOSER!!

I'm here for it all, and I hope ever time somebody puts a microphone in his face, they ask him about THE TRAIN STATION STORY. For me, that would be PURE GOLD!!!!
 
Big Apple NYC said:
Here's a good one:

THE BLAST (an online media site, created by one of the guys that once worked at TMZ) caught up with Greedy Reed yesterday at LAX and asked him about THE TRAIN STATION STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reed, of course, tried to play it off. BUT he must have been pissed that it's STILL being brought up and that folks are still talking about it.

Greedy was also asked about Robson and Safechuck testifying previously that they were NEVER abused by Michael. Greedy referred to his mockumentary, instead of answer the question directly. LOSER!!

I'm here for it all, and I hope ever time somebody puts a microphone in his face, they ask him about THE TRAIN STATION STORY. For me, that would be PURE GOLD!!!!
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i am wondering what this bustard wants in los angeles... it can only be connected to ln or mj.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
Just my little ole opinion, BUT I don't believe there will be a book on the market by Robson. First of all, who would buy it? The time to have published a book by Wade would have been when he first submitted his 2 different manuscripts.

P.S. I wonder why they passed on his book in the first place. If I recall correctly (from Wade's very own e-mail), 3 publishers PASSED and they were waiting to hear from the 4th publisher (whom I'm guessing, passed also).

In a perfect world, somebody would have "leaked" Robson's 2 manuscripts and then we could compare them both, side-by-side. Wouldn't that be lovely!!!
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i dont understand why non of them leaks the book. its out there and noone got it until now??? how is this even possible??
 
Cinnamon234 said:
I sure hope so
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I believe that LN, partly, lost its steam, because the 3 main characters can no longer PROMOTE their "made-up stories," for fear that they will be asked about their lies and/or inconsistencies.

Safechuck certainly does NOT want to be asked about the Train Station that wasn't built yet (along with the "director" changing his timeline). Same thing goes for Robson with his ever changing stories and straight up lies.

The 3 of them know what's going on in dem streets!!!! How some folks are questioning this, that, and the other thing. How they thought Oprah would be their saving-grace, but turns out she wasn't. THEY KNOW!!
 
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MJTruth said:
Some people see through it and others are totally convinced by it. Those who are convinced are going to fight against anything pro-MJ.

LN has lost steam in the same way that Surviving R Kelly lost steam. People see a documentary/film, chat about it for a minute then move on with their lives. The effects of the show live on in those people and will keep coming back.

You better believe that reporters will bring this up again and again, and that Wade (probably not James) will release a statement every time an MJ event happens. So yes expect Wade to say something in June. I anticipate a LN book release later this year (Wade's rejected book must look much more appealing to publishers right now). While Wade can earn money and retain his "relevance" by being a "victim" I think he'll just keep playing the media.

Without a totally convincing and socially accepted rebuttal LN will loom over MJ's posthumous career for years to come, just like almost every media report through the 90s (and beyond actually) mentioned the 93 settlement.
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Sadly you are making a lot of sense here and I agree. I would love for this horrible shit to be finally over and done with forever, but there's just no guarantee at all.

Let us also not forget what that one particular German shit head is still planning for June too. I truly hope it won't reach much further than Germany, but for all we know the pathetic asshole has found a platform outside of Germany.

But at the end of the day I'm not worried though, look at the things the man endured in life and now in death too and yet he isn't muted, isn't destroyed. He'll withstand any upcoming crap. Even with Taj's documentary, there's no guarantee this kind of LN won't reappear in a few years.
 
An old friend is defending Michael.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Now I&#39;m here! If it were not for Michael Jackson, we would not be talking. Michael is to me as my second father and I will be grateful to him as long as I live. All charges against him are false! Just leave him alone. &#39;&#39;- Bella Farkas<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> &#55357;&#56401; <a href="https://t.co/bD4t0LE8jS">pic.twitter.com/bD4t0LE8jS</a></p>&mdash; Michael Jackson &#9818; (@SoldiersOfLove_) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoldiersOfLove_/status/1125796516961058816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I'm not a fan of Madonna and Michael never like her either but if she defending him from the heart. i wanna say thank you to her. (y)
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I'm not a fan of Madonna and Michael never like her either but if she defending him from the heart. i wanna say thank you to her. (y)
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whether he like her or not, it is about just speaking the truth no matter who it is. I am grateful to her using her own mind.
 
terrell;4257482 said:
whether he like her or not, it is about just speaking the truth no matter who it is. I am grateful to her using her own mind.
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I thank Madonna for what she said after Michael’s death and I thank her for her defense of him now, and that’s what matters.
 
NatureCriminal7896;4257480 said:
I'm not a fan of Madonna and Michael never like her either but if she defending him from the heart. i wanna say thank you to her. (y)
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Michael liked Madonna; however, there were some things she said about him that were not so nice. Thus, he said things in response. However, she did a heartfelt tribute to him in 2009 and admitted that she said things she shouldn&#8217;t have. I will always respect and support her for being honest enough to admit that and speak from her heart. She is a strong woman.
 
I didn't not say i hate her. i'm just not a fan of hers. if she speaking from the heart then i thank her for that.
 
Same goes for Donald Trump. i don't like him either but he also has defend Michael. so it's okay not be fan of someone if you agree with somethings they say.
 
I couldn’t find the original that they transcribed it from

http://www.alternativenation.net/slash-reacts-disgusting-michael-jackson-video-surfacing/

Slash Reacts To Disgusting Michael Jackson Video Surfacing
By Brett Buchanan -

Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash was asked about video surfacing of Michael Jackson’s alleged young victims being interviewed on the HBO documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’ in a new VOS interview. Keep in mind the quotes are via Google Translate and may not be exact.

The reporter wrote, “Back in 1991, in full global euphoria of Guns N ‘Roses, Slash was invited by Michael Jackson to collaborate on the album Dangerous. Rubricó the intro of Black and White and a memorable solo in Give in to me.

Then, he had appearances in several live shows of the king of pop. This interview was made a few days before the release of the documentary Leaving Neverland, which again put into discussion the allegations of pedophilia about the deceased singer. However, Slash makes it clear that it is not a topic he wants to delve into.”

Did you see the documentary? How did the testimonies against Michael impact you?

“I did not see it, and I do not have an opinion about it.”

But you decided that you do not want to see it?

“I do not think I’ve ever seen any of Michael Jackson’s movies … I did not see This is It either. I’ve been traveling, so I did not have time to see it …”

But you will know what it is, and I do not know if you are surprised by the accusations because they refer to someone you knew (interrupts)

“I remember when everything came to light for the first time, and now it comes up again with some of the same sources, I’m aware of that, but I do not have an opinion about it.”
 
MJPoetryFan;4257495 said:
I couldn&#8217;t find the original that they transcribed it from

http://www.alternativenation.net/slash-reacts-disgusting-michael-jackson-video-surfacing/

Slash Reacts To Disgusting Michael Jackson Video Surfacing
By Brett Buchanan -

Guns N&#8217; Roses guitarist Slash was asked about video surfacing of Michael Jackson&#8217;s alleged young victims being interviewed on the HBO documentary &#8216;Leaving Neverland&#8217; in a new VOS interview. Keep in mind the quotes are via Google Translate and may not be exact.

The reporter wrote, &#8220;Back in 1991, in full global euphoria of Guns N &#8216;Roses, Slash was invited by Michael Jackson to collaborate on the album Dangerous. Rubricó the intro of Black and White and a memorable solo in Give in to me.

Then, he had appearances in several live shows of the king of pop. This interview was made a few days before the release of the documentary Leaving Neverland, which again put into discussion the allegations of pedophilia about the deceased singer. However, Slash makes it clear that it is not a topic he wants to delve into.&#8221;

Did you see the documentary? How did the testimonies against Michael impact you?

&#8220;I did not see it, and I do not have an opinion about it.&#8221;

But you decided that you do not want to see it?

&#8220;I do not think I&#8217;ve ever seen any of Michael Jackson&#8217;s movies &#8230; I did not see This is It either. I&#8217;ve been traveling, so I did not have time to see it &#8230;&#8221;

But you will know what it is, and I do not know if you are surprised by the accusations because they refer to someone you knew (interrupts)

&#8220;I remember when everything came to light for the first time, and now it comes up again with some of the same sources, I&#8217;m aware of that, but I do not have an opinion about it.&#8221;
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These reporters all sound like jerks trying to shove this fraudumentary down everyone's throat. "Did you see it? Did you see it? But did you see it?" Celebrities should come up with a better response why they did not and will not watch and listen to explicit descriptions of the alleged acts.
 
Because if they say we saw it already and we do not believe them they will do to the. What they did to Barbara Streisand. But that witch is a typical Hollywood paedophilia supporter so she had to go after MJ not to upset the crowds but made her opinion known she is Pro Geffen
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Sadly you are making a lot of sense here and I agree. I would love for this horrible shit to be finally over and done with forever, but there's just no guarantee at all.

Let us also not forget what that one particular German shit head is still planning for June too. I truly hope it won't reach much further than Germany, but for all we know the pathetic asshole has found a platform outside of Germany.

But at the end of the day I'm not worried though, look at the things the man endured in life and now in death too and yet he isn't muted, isn't destroyed. He'll withstand any upcoming crap. Even with Taj's documentary, there's no guarantee this kind of LN won't reappear in a few years.
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June should have been marked by positive media tributes.
I dared to hope for a serious pro-MJ TV show on a major network (finally!) but these things won't happen in the mainstream now.

If Jacobshagen's show is broadcast as planned in June then it will be all over the news globally. the media aren't interested in exposing scams, they want to destroy a legacy once and for all.

I heard in a podcast the other day that Jacobshagen has said that he doesn't believe Wade and James. That sounds ironic coming from a con man who has previously claimed that Jackson "crossed the line" with him. Somebody who met MJ briefly in the late 90s and has built a whole fantasy around that.

LN didn't mute MJ entirely but it did seriously damage the legacy. The damage will continue for many years. New accusations will compound that damage and may be enough to mute MJ in the long run.
 
MJTruth said:
June should have been marked by positive media tributes.
I dared to hope for a serious pro-MJ TV show on a major network (finally!) but these things won't happen in the mainstream now.

If Jacobshagen's show is broadcast as planned in June then it will be all over the news globally. the media aren't interested in exposing scams, they want to destroy a legacy once and for all.

I heard in a podcast the other day that Jacobshagen has said that he doesn't believe Wade and James. That sounds ironic coming from a con man who has previously claimed that Jackson "crossed the line" with him. Somebody who met MJ briefly in the late 90s and has built a whole fantasy around that.

LN didn't mute MJ entirely but it did seriously damage the legacy. The damage will continue for many years. New accusations will compound that damage and may be enough to mute MJ in the long run.
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But what could truly bring a stop to this? There's no law against defamation of a dead person, so people like him and the two fake victims can just continue on with this crap for as long as they want. Even a pro MJ doc won't change that I'm sure. There really should be laws against it though.

For starters it's ****ing ridiculous how a sick freak like Jacobshagen can still be allowed to do all this, how is this guy not arrested yet? Have not enough people come forward that were duped by him? I get the feeling you know a little more about his plans. What network will he broadcast it on? God it sucks so much how powerless we're all are when it comes to this. The dude needs to be arrested or at least be put into some asylum, because he isn't right in the head.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Sorry if old, but was this posted?

https://m.facebook.com/groups/53382...link&id=546358262556913&anchor_composer=false

The whole birthday clip allegedly meant for Wade in LN wasn't even that, it was during a Award show and MJ thanked the people and said I love you to the people.

They faked so much stuff man, ****ing Dan Reed.
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No. From what I saw.
Michael filmed that video for Wade (and maybe other people), but Dan Reed (like what he did with the video of the lawyer of 2005) cut it to made MJ grooming Wade.
Michael said more things to wade (as I remember : " to stay with his mother " something like that), but Dan Reed manipulated the video.
The video showed in LN isn't full.
 
1nn5 said:
No. From what I saw.
Michael filmed that video for Wade (and maybe other people), but Dan Reed (like what he did with the video of the lawyer of 2005) cut it to made MJ grooming Wade.
Michael said more things to wade (as I remember : " to stay with his mother " something like that), but Dan Reed manipulated the video.
The video showed in LN isn't full.
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I see, thank you.

Also, I don't think I read it here yet but apparently Mariah Carey has removed I'll be there from her cover songs for her shows. If true, it's sad to see she's a mindless drone.
 
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