Menna T-Allah
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I feel like there are some genres that Michael isn't credited for like most black artists who are trapped in the "pop, R&B circle"
Jason Lipshutz with Gail Mitchell and Gary Graff from Billboard said the song developed an industrial rock groove that was a bit reminiscent of Nine Inch Nails, "Jackson bellows on the chorus, as guitars envelop his voice and Kravitz repeats the song title like a lullaby,"."[24]
Ohhh may I ask where can I find that?Rodney Jerkins said "Michael Hated techno".
We can only assume he did. I doubt he had any artistic influence over them though.I really wanna know if mj approved of the remixes on history in the mix. Did he like them? Cause they are house I guess
It's an old tweet and if you dig really far up my posting history you can find it.Ohhh may I ask where can I find that?
And also I really wanna know if mj approved of the remixes on history in the mix. Did he like them? Cause they are house I guess
We can only assume he did. I doubt he had any artistic influence over them though.
I've read this, also. Can't remember who it was. A session musician? An engineer?I remember reading or hearing that he actually didn't like remixes in general but accepted them for some reasons like, in that time, it was necessary to target night clubs to be (more) successful...
But I can't remember where I heard/read this...
Exactly so. I'm sure I read an interview ages ago with a musician who had a conversation with Michael. The musician mentioned Scritti Politti and Michael said how much he loved them. I've been going mental trying to find the wretched thing. Can't find it or remember the details but I didn't imagine it. I wish I could find it bc Green loved Michael back in the Thriller days, apparently.[...] Then, to me "Alternative" and "Indie" do not define music styles... they are rather adjectives that people put forward when they wanted to differentiate from mainstream "commercial" artists...
And also I really wanna know if mj approved of the remixes on history in the mix. Did he like them? Cause they are house I guess
Rob Hoffman notes that Jackson became a fan of Reznor after being played one of the band’s tracks during the HIStory recording sessions, in which the singer would be provided with a mix CD of contemporary hits. “He was a huge fan of Nine Inch Nails Downward Spiral... It was amazing how he’d come in with some song he liked and want to capture something about it — the energy, the tone, the mood.” You can feel the influence in "Morphine".Industrial is like Nine Inch Nails.
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MJ didn't do any of the above.
Well, almost every single from Dangerous and HIStory had a handful of remixes - it was MJ's standard B-Side. Some people see them as filler or whatever, but I dunno what he would have released without them. Maybe new songs, lol.I remember reading or hearing that he actually didn't like remixes in general but accepted them for some reasons like, in that time, it was necessary to target night clubs to be (more) successful...
Well, the Dangerous tour had support acts including Rozalla, Snap and Culture Beat. Don't know whether that means anything.Regarding techno-type music, I also vaguely remember that MJ complimented the band 2 Unlimited . Which was having very mainstream successes in the beginning on the 90s. So he may have stumbled up on them at some awards ceremonies or such
I think that's just one of the things MJ used to say. I'm extremely skeptical that he was "a huge fan of Downward Spiral", lol.Rob Hoffman notes that Jackson became a fan of Reznor after being played one of the band’s tracks during the HIStory recording sessions
It might be because house music originated with Black homosexual culture. It was an offshoot of disco, which was also popular with gay audiences. So was vogue dancing, until Madonna brought it out to the mainstream. Disco/house artists were more likely to be openly gay like singer Sylvester than mainstream popular entertainers. Remember Elton John was married to a woman and the popularity of Queen dropped in the US after they released that music video in drag. Rock fans in the 1970s did not like when rock acts (Rolling Stones, KISS, Rod Stewart, Paul McCartney, Beach Boys, etc) recorded what they considered disco songs and said they sold out. It was hip hop that became mainstream popular in the US probably because it was more traditionally masculine (especially gangsta rap) than house or dance music. A lot of the US is rural & small towns and there's also the bible belt, which is where country music & Americana (Bob Seger, John Cougar Melencamp, Bruce Springsteen) tends to be more popular. The kinds of acts that perform at Farm Aid every year. Country music in general also tends to be traditionally masculine, also with things associated with it like rodeos & westerns. Male country artists are usually way more popular than female artists. Female country artists get don't get much airplay on country radio.Until fairly recently Americans had a strange relationship with house and techno though, even if those originated in Chicago and Detroit.
Sex, Drugs, & Rock n' Roll. Groupies were most associated with rock performers. Many of the earlier jazz artists were drug users too.And since MJ didn't like clubs and club culture in general (and the drugs, nihilism and sex sometimes associated with that) he might have linked that with house and techno itself (although incorrect)
what he would have released without them. Maybe new songs, lol.
Yeah, I saw NIN live in about 2000. And I think between my gf and I, we must have about 80% of all their studio/live/remix albums.Oh, NIN- Trent has already been addressed, Good. @R1chard Yeah.. I always heard that he was inspired/ impressed by NIN ~Closer on album The Downward Spiral.
Michael Jackson actually did not like remixes in general, but he accepted them for monetary reasons (bigger chart/sales success of his remixes would bring him even more money).I remember reading or hearing that he actually didn't like remixes in general but accepted them for some reasons like, in that time, it was necessary to target night clubs to be (more) successful...
What do you mean it was simply not true? How could you possibly know that? LolYeah, I saw NIN live in about 2000. And I think between my gf and I, we must have about 80% of all their studio/live/remix albums.
And, let's just be very clear about this - when MJ said he was a big fan of Closer, that simply was not true. Michael used to lie about music all the time
Yeah, I saw NIN live in about 2000. And I think between my gf and I, we must have about 80% of all their studio/live/remix albums.
And, let's just be very clear about this - when MJ said he was a big fan of Closer, that simply was not true. Michael used to lie about music all the time
In the same way, he also accepted something even worse than that: to alter certain lyrics of his songs in order to make them Pepsi songs (such as, the Pepsi version of his 'Billie Jean' song).
Even if MJ disliked techno, he preferred to make highly digital, electronic songs in his later career rather than raw music with real, live instruments. We can see this on Invincible.
Rodney Jerkins said he did not like it at all.I think we don't know if he disliked techno
If he was "a major fan" then we would have known about it.What do you mean it was simply not true? How could you possibly know that? Lol
Why would MJ lie about that though ?Yeah, I saw NIN live in about 2000. And I think between my gf and I, we must have about 80% of all their studio/live/remix albums.
And, let's just be very clear about this - when MJ said he was a big fan of Closer, that simply was not true. Michael used to lie about music all the time
Don't feed the elitist.Why would MJ lie about that though ?
I’m not following anything you just wrote. If he was a major fan then he would have known about what?This weekend I pulled out the Closer CD single and listened to it straight through. 5 different mixes.
Yeah, Michael Jackson never made any music like that.
He just didn't.
If he was "a major fan" then we would have known about it.
As I said, when pressed in TV interviews, he would say the first thing that came into his mind. Anything to come across as positive. He basically said that he loved everyone in every genre. It's PR, not to be taken seriously.