For trained councillors/those who have experience, is there any way to prevent someone from....

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Okay, I have typed this thread out three times now and wasnt sure whether to post as I realise this is the World Wide Web and know how delicate everyone is at the moment but I am seriously worried but I do not want to say too much.

I was just wondering if theres any "proven" way whether it be words, gestures, what have you to not allow someone close to you to increase the rate of untimely passings to go up?
 
i'm guessing you can't wait a few years for me to get a degree... =/
i don't think there's any one proven way, but there are definitely things you can do while there is no trained professional in the vicinity. I googled some things, maybe you'll find help here http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/ or here http://www.wikihow.com/Prevent-a-Suicide , assuming you haven't done the same already. Just talk to this person, keep them talking, find something positive in the future for them to look forward to. convince them it's normal to feel this way (i don't know if it's because of Michael or a cumulation of things) and that they will feel this way for some time, but it will PASS. remind them of the good things in life, they have to have had some good memories.. tell them those weren't enough, there should be more, there will be more. and life is a gift that you can only use once. unless it's a religious person and thinks differently in which case you can play the suicide=sin card.
tell us something more so we can try to help, or direct them here or something.. point out the people who care about them and who would end up feeling about him/her like he/she did about Michael.. would they want that? (is this about michael at all? if not, ignore, or find an analogy)
PS take care of yourself too. this isn't all your responsibility. let this person know you are there for them but don't let them become dependant on you.
 
If you know the person - or have a quick and efficient way of contacting them, setting dates and making appointments is important. Strangely enough, it works. Give them some kind of purpose for tomorrow and they are more likely to hang in there until tomorrow. Not just "work tomorrow" of course - but fun or at least somewhat relieving things. Keep a conversation going that they feel engaged in somehow, see a movie together. If someone is counting on them on a short-term basis, they are more likely to postpone a suicide plan. It's not fool proof and it doesn't always work, but it's definitely worked on numerous occasions. Short term goals, to relieve the idea of a painful long term.
 
hi, if someone is thinking of suicide the best thing you can do is to contact your nearest hospital and get them admitted. by all things, stay with them until an ambulance arrives. all cries for help should be taken seriously and if its someone you know ask them if they are serious about wanting to end their life. if they say yes phone emergency and get help sent asap.
 
Get them professional help and stay with them till they do get this help.
 
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