Formule 1

[Evilman]

If Kimi doesn't go to Mercedes and Schumi either, then who does?

 

[The One.]

^ I'd say Heidfeld?

They said that Kimi might race in the Citroen junior team. Quite frankly, if a man, 30 years old, motivated than ever, has a chance to sign a deal with the current world champion team in F1, with a possibility of getting his 2nd WDC and beating Ferrari big time... would he sign with Citroen just for a seat at the junior team?! If I were him, I would sign with Merc to drive in F1 and with Citroen to practise rally and after 1 or 2 years I would switch from F1 to rally. Then I would have much more experience to compete with the big names in WRC. ... but this is me, I cannot think with Kimi's brain.:doh:

What? :huh: I can't imagine that would happend, junior team.. lol.

 

[Kinga]

If Kimi doesn't go to Mercedes and Schumi either, then who does?

^ I'd say Heidfeld?

If Renault wouldn't be in F1 next year then Kubica.

So, I really hope that Renault announces their presence on the 2010 grid asap!!!! And that Kimi wants to be in F1... and they could agree with Mercedes.

Damn it, Christmas is so far away... I really do not want anything for Christmas but a Mercedes deal signed by Kimi!!!!!

Anyway, here's the grid so far:

FIA publishes 2010 Formula 1 entry list
Posted on | November 30, 2009 | by James AllencloseAuthor: James Allen Name: James Allen


The FIA has this evening published the entry list for next season’s F1 championship. There are some interesting points of note.


First, as expected, Richard Branson’s Virgin is doing a Benetton and pushing its brand to the forefront, calling the team Virgin Racing and the cars Virgin Cosworths. Manor is not entering F1 under its own name.

The model here was set out by Benetton in the 1980s and 1990s, whereby it got the maximum brand exposure while getting the sponsors to pay the bills. Virgin Racing has yet to announce its commercial package for F1, but one would expect to find companies which have a string business to business link with the company, such as an oil company which supplies aviation fuel to the Virgin airlines business. It’s not so obvious a sponsorship for a non related brand as Virgin is such a dominant brand, it would crowd everything else out.

Toro Rosso has yet to confirm Jaime Alguersuari. Only Sebastien Buemi gets a seat at the moment.

Brawn has indicated to the FIA that it is requesting a name change to Mercedes Grand Prix, not Mercedes F1, which is interesting. And as the situation has yet to be resolved over Toyota’s withdrawal from F1 and whether Sauber will get the entry, at present Toyota’s name is mentioned, without being entered and given race numbers, while Sauber is not mentioned. I will post separately on this.

There are five Germans in the field, Nick Heidfeld should make that six when he signs up and if that should happen to be for Sauber, for example, it will mean that there is a German driver six out of the 13 teams, an unprecedented situation in the sport.

At Ferrari, Felipe Massa is given car number seven – lucky for some – and Fernando Alonso number eight. Generally the lower numbered car in a team is regarded as the lead car, but in this case I don’t think Ferrari intend any seniority implications.

Whoever drives the lead car for US F1 will be feeling pretty good about life – car number 22 has won the world championship for the past two seasons running!

Red Bull is down as being powered by Renault engines, which is everyone’s understanding, but has yet to be confirmed. Whatever Renault may decide about its participation in F1, I understand that they will continue to supply engines to Red Bull.

1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES

3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 TBA BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES

5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT

7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI

9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH

11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT

14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES

16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI

18 TBA LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 TBA LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH

20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA

22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH

24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 TBA VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH

 

[The One.]

This is ridiculous why don't they just announce what's going to happen!?

Yesterday MTV reported that Kimi has signed the deal with Citroen's junior team but Riku Kuvaja denied it saying all the options are still open and even Citroen's boss said he hasn't even talked with Kimi. But still Solberg is talking in interviews like Kimi will drive rally next season, but maybe he just doesn't know anything.

And I thought MTV was a reliable source, lol.

 

[Evilman]

Now they reported like 10 minutes ago that Kimi will sign that Citroen contract during next 24 hours. This is some friggin kidding.

 

[Kinga]

Maybe it's ridiculous but I still have hope that Kimi will be in F1 next year! Until I hear an official announcement that the Mercedes negotiations failed... I have my hope! I don't give up!

I can't believe he would leave F1 like that! Come on! Damnit Ferrari!! I know that Kimi doesn't care about my opinion but I gotta say that I simply don't want to see him as a full-time rally driver!!!! For God's sake, not yet!!!! Damnit!!!! I'm so angry! He should stay in F1, he's too young! He would have been in F1 at least in 2010!!!! I can't believe that his heart is not in F1 anymore! He's a real racer, a real fighter, we love him because of this afterall!!!!

 

[The One.]

Maybe it's ridiculous but I still have hope that Kimi will be in F1 next year! Until I hear an official announcement that the Mercedes negotiations failed... I have my hope! I don't give up!

I can't believe he would leave F1 like that! Come on! Damnit Ferrari!! I know that Kimi doesn't care about my opinion but I gotta say that I simply don't want to see him as a full-time rally driver!!!! For God's sake, not yet!!!! Damnit!!!! I'm so angry! He should stay in F1, he's too young! He would have been in F1 at least in 2010!!!! I can't believe that his heart is not in F1 anymore! He's a real racer, a real fighter, we love him because of this afterall!!!!

Me either, like I said earlier I just don't enjoy rally as much as F1. It's so sad if Kimi has to leave F1 like this and I really hope he continues in F1 at LEAST that one season (though if you ask me I would want to see him still for several years)
But whatever happens, I'll keep supporting Kimi on what he does... :timer:

 

[Kinga]

Me either, like I said earlier I just don't enjoy rally as much as F1. It's so sad if Kimi has to leave F1 like this and I really hope he continues in F1 at LEAST that one season (though if you ask me I would want to see him still for several years)
But whatever happens, I'll keep supporting Kimi on what he does... :timer:

+ 1! Nothing more to add!!!



Anyway, some good news!?!?! There's still hope, hope, hope...:angel:

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/12/1008985

 

[The One.]

"We will tell you when we have something to tell" OMG I wonder when will that beeeeeeee??? I'll start crying soon this waiting is killing me!!!!!

 

[Evilman]

Hang in there mates. We are already in December and we get to know about Kimi's future before Christmas.

 

[The One.]

^ Yep. It's just so exhausting to wait and wait and wait with no reliable news!

LOL what's next? :lmao:

Kimi's rally helmets in making

The circus around Kimi Räikkönen's future got new shapes again when the former Ferrari-driver's helmets were seen in making in a factory in Tampere.

Uffe Tägström has painted Räikkönen's helmets for years and it was seen that the helmet he's working on now is suitable for rally driving. Witnesses didn't reveal whether the helmet was in colors of Citroen.

Uffe Tägström denied he has anything to do with Kimi's new helmet.

- I don't know anything about his business, he said.

MTV reported already in Monday that Räikkönen has signed a one-year contract about driving a C4 WRC -car in the French team's junior team.


http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2009/12/1009682

 

[Kinga]

^^^Lol This is getting ridiculous!!!! :tease:

One member at a KR forum wrote this regarding those rumours :rofl:

The brother of my grandfather's cousin's daughter-in-law's best friend's cousin knows a guy whose sister's boy-friend's neighbour's cousin's brother works for a small Red Bull shop in Alaska and that guy claims that RB has been making adverts with Kimi's picture on them for 2011 BECAUSE he knows a girl whose daddy's golf student's best friend's daughter's fiancé is a Red Bull mechanic and claims that Kimi has a pre-contract for 2011. And yes, that mechanic is aware of RB being one of Kimi's personal sponsors.

Hang in there mates. We are already in December and we get to know about Kimi's future before Christmas.

Honestly, I don't want anything for Christmas just a Mercedes deal signed by Kimi. :cheeky:

I hope the good news will come at least around 14, Dec. :timer:

 

[Evilman]

14th December. That has been great day for many years and hope it does keep going that way.

 

[Kinga]

^^^Why is this day a special one?

 

[Kinga]

So, it's not 14th only the 4th but the announcement is here. Not the one we would have liked to read...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80431

Damnit...:smilerolleyes:

 

[The One.]

Yeah.. well, I'm looking forward what Kimi can achieve in the rally world. Best of luck to him there!

 

[Evilman]

^^^Why is this day a special one?

It's birthday of many my friends and that's the day I started acting in the first place.

But best of luck to Kimi. I feel pretty bad about this but let's hope at least Heikki can drive Formulas.

 

[Kinga]

It's birthday of many my friends and that's the day I started acting in the first place.

Ah, it's cool! It's a special day for me too because my parents' wedding anniversary is on that day. This year it will be the 40th!

I'm very very angry about this rally, to say the least. It's not about I don't respect Kimi's decision. I accept his decision, if that is what makes him happy, then be it. It seems and I have to realise and live with it that simply that is what he wanted to do. He could have signed for McLaren or Mercedes I think but he didn't want to. Maybe he left F1 for good (which is 99,9% IMO) or maybe he wanted a little break and see if he would like to do it more or not. Maybe he thinks that this is a wonderful opportunity to start in WRC in a top car right from the start but I fear that once he smells the freedom of the rally ... he won't go back to F1. Never. Maybe he felt this already at his rally adventures. You could see the joy and the happiness on his face, his smile was real and his eyes were shining. I knew that he's in love with rally just didn't want to realise it 100%. Maybe he's fed up with F1 already this year or last year, Ferrari "helped" him to feel it.

I will follow Kimi that's not a question. I'm done with F1, at least for a couple of years.

I just didn't want this to happen so that Ferrari can say... we did it.

I love rally, I love rally-Kimi, no doubt! I would love to see him happy. But I'm angry because this whole sh.t happened because of the damn Ferrari! It should've come at least one year later! What will people think about Kimi? That he left F1 because they kicked him out. In people's mind that will remain that he was not motivated at all, he was beaten by his team mate and he didn't care. I hate this! He should've shown to everybody in F1 what he's made of and then leave like a champion.

Instead, what happened? In his last race he struggled the whole race (I know it was not his fault), nobody said him good bye, there wasn't any kind of picture or something with the drivers or I don't know. I don't know if he would have wanted it (maybe not) but at least we could have known that it was his last race in F1. He left like a nobody, just walked out of the area, quietly... it hurts so much.

He's much more than that!!! He deserves much more than that!

 

[The One.]

Yeah.. I feel excactly the same, Kinga.. this just shouldn't have happened this way. Everything has gone so wrong this year, everything.

Marcus Grönholm (former WRC driver who is also doing a comeback) said that since Kimi starts driving, he doesn't want to go back to F1, he doesn't want to stop rallying. I guess that's the truth. Sadly? I don't know. I want Kimi to be happy.

 

[Kinga]

Marcus Grönholm (former WRC driver who is also doing a comeback) said that since Kimi starts driving, he doesn't want to go back to F1, he doesn't want to stop rallying. I guess that's the truth. Sadly? I don't know. I want Kimi to be happy.

I agree with Marcus Grönholm.

Guess what Steve Robertson had to say to Heikki Kulta: that Mercedes wanted Kimi but at that point Kimi had already decided to do rally! So, no matter what we wanted... Kimi wanted this option.

I have to realise that it was just my (our) wishful thinking nothing more. Kimi made up his mind quite early. This Mercedes option wasn't really an option for him, it seems. It's easy to say anything with hindsight but we should've known when he said "sabbatical year" - he really meant it, when he said "McLaren is the only option" - he really meant it. He always tells the truth and doesn't change his mind afterwards. It was totally useless to hope for other things. :doh:

He wants new challenges and wants to be WDC in rally too. It takes time so better start off early. I would be more than happy if he could fulfill his ultimate dream, to be the first man that became WDC both in F1 and in rally, he would make history. unk:

 

[The One.]

He wants new challenges and wants to be WDC in rally too. It takes time so better start off early. I would be more than happy if he could fulfill his ultimate dream, to be the first man that became WDC both in F1 and in rally, he would make history. unk:

That would be so amazing I hope he can make it :angel: Though it will take few years.. I hope it happens, Kimi deserves that since he's now going to be always a "one-time F1 champion"..

 

[Kinga]

I hope it happens, Kimi deserves that since he's now going to be always a "one-time F1 champion"..

Yeah!!! And with his talent he should've won more in F1!!!! He doesn't belong to the league where Damon Hill or Jenson Button are... Alonso doesn't have more talent than Kimi, far from it, and he is already a double world champion. I don't want him to win more...

 

[The One.]

Yeah!!! And with his talent he should've won more in F1!!!! He doesn't belong to the league where Damon Hill or Jenson Button are... Alonso doesn't have more talent than Kimi, far from it, and he is already a double world champion. I don't want him to win more...

Yeah, that was my point, Kimi would've deserved more than just "one-time champion", most of all he should be RESPECTED more by the public! So, the least he deserves now is to become the first to win the championship in rally, too.

Btw I think you need to start a thread for WRC next year :cheeky:

 

[Kinga]

Since I can't really express my feelings with words... let this video of mine do the talking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdKuTkDfcI

 

[The One.]

Since I can't really express my feelings with words... let this video of mine do the talking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdKuTkDfcI

Aww That Enya's song always makes me on sad mood (I like the pic at 3:22)

But really, when I look at this video and the "rally era" I'm sure it's the best choice for Kimi. Just look at his face! He has probably smiled more in those rally visits than his whole F1 career together!
And he has always said that his dream is to win one world championship, and he has done that now. He doesn't care of anything else, he doesn't care what WE want (= more championships :innocent: )

And I just realised that I have pretty good chance now to see him live someday before I die. Maybe he spends little bit more time in Finland now? Who knows.

 

[Kinga]

But really, when I look at this video and the "rally era" I'm sure it's the best choice for Kimi. Just look at his face! He has probably smiled more in those rally visits than his whole F1 career together!

That's true. That's what I wanted to show with this video. Show the pictures about the smiling, relaxed Kimi. I had to realise that he was enjoying his time so much during rally weekends. He will love this new challenge for sure!!

And he has always said that his dream is to win one world championship, and he has done that now. He doesn't care of anything else, he doesn't care what WE want (= more championships :innocent: )

That's true also. If he had cared he would have stayed and would have fighted more in F1. But he's had enough of that shit and wants to have fun. He's a free man with lots of money, he could have stayed at home and doing nothing but instead he's looking for other challenges. Racing is in his blood, that's our luck, we will be seeing him for many years. Maybe even for 10! In rally age doesn't really matter. Other F1 driver would have dissapeared for good, thank God Kimi doesn't do that. :angel:

And I just realised that I have pretty good chance now to see him live someday before I die. Maybe he spends little bit more time in Finland now? Who knows.

Yeah, you could go and see him in Rally Finland!!!! unk: I wouldn't mind to visit Finland in that time. I've always liked to visit your country, I find it beautiful, why not in August? :cheeky:

 

[The One.]

New points system approved, ex-drivers to assist stewards


The top ten finishers in a Grand Prix will score points next season under a new system ratified by the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) on Friday.

The race winner will take 25 points, with 20 and 15 being awarded for second and third places respectively. The next seven finishers will score 10, 8, 6, 5, 3, 2 and 1 point respectively. It replaces the current structure of the top eight drivers scoring 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 point respectively and takes into account the expansion of the grid to 13 teams for 2010.

Friday’s WMSC meeting agreed a number of other changes for 2010, including the use of experienced former F1 drivers to assist stewards in decision making relating to race incidents. A permanent panel of three FIA stewards will now attend every Grand Prix, joined by an additional local steward at each race.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/12/10279.html

 

[Mechi]

:wild: wohooooo german media today is full of that Michael Schumacher is close to an agreement with mercedes-brawn and maybe even will be driver for them next season? did anyone hear anything more about that. There's supposed to be an anouncement next week they say?
wow I'm wondering how the ferraristi must feel... peeeeew even I feel torn... don't really like any mercedes cars lol not even when Kimi was still driving one sorry *looking around carefully* sorry lol I'm just so much a ferrari girl... hmmm since childhood somehow. But wow that would be really something. Michael back would make f1 even more interesting as I think it will be next season! can't wait! :wild:

 

[The One.]

Yeah I've heard about that too, that he already has oral agreement.. well, now that Kimi ain't there I don't really care if he comes back or not, though I still feel like if someone has retired he shouldn't come back. But sure if he really drives next season, it's going to be very interesting.


Oh btw, last year we were in North Italy and we went on a day trip to Lake Como and I just today found out that Schumi has a villa there! So, I might have seen it but just didn't know it was his, hehe. :cheeky:

 

[The One.]

Trulli and Kovalainen confirmed at Lotus for 2010

The new Lotus Formula One team confirmed on Monday that Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen will form their race line-up for 2010, with Malaysia’s Fairuz Fauzy taking on the role of test and reserve driver.

Former Monaco Grand Prix victor Trulli has spent the past five seasons racing for Toyota, whole Kovalainen, also an F1 race winner, moves from McLaren after losing his seat to new world champion Jenson Button.

The appointment of Trulli, Kovalainen and Fauzy to the Malaysian-backed team was made formal in an official announcement by Malaysian Prime Minister Dato' Sri Najib Tun Razak in Kuala Lumpur, at which all three drivers were present, along with team principal Tony Fernandes.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/12/10283.html


Hmm, I wished Heikki would go to Renault.. but he's very excited about this so I hope it turns out to be the right decision.

Have you seen a picture of Lotus' team principal, Tony Fernandes? He looks like an oompa loompa from the movie Charlie and the Chocolate Factory :rofl: *sorry* :blush: