@IamSpeechless10 claiming MJJC is hating on her

[qbee]

GAZ , IvyI think we should all be on the same page when dealing with her on twitter
Ivy can probably weigh in her to tell you more

MJJC has not been hating on her - Im not sure she is even a member here

She is just upset becuase she was blocked by Ivy and MJJC Twitter

She says ivy is hating on her . Which is false - Ivy blocked her from her personal twitter
for posting out crap and supporting Taak malick ... she is allowed to block who she wants

I noticed she was blocked on MJJC too - So just yesterday I unblocked her on MJJC to open up
communication - she was blocked prior by us for some reason ( probably for hating on us)

No one from MJJC was hating on her. But myself , Ivy as well as others certainly dont agree
with her on many occasions .. She posts out the hate rants of Taaj Malick

Now cleary she was upset - so I did try to appease her and show some love.
I told her MJJC doest hate her and that I love her .. so now she wants love from IVY too :lol:

she doesnt seem to be able to except that our personal twitter accounts are Not MJJC
even though I told her that ..

I think we should stop tweeting about her and to her now which is just drawing more
attention to her and see if she does Email you .. so we can resolve it that way.

 

[Gaz]

An email from here

Hi Gaz

Thank you for letting me have this opportunity to talk to you direct, I appreciate that very much.

First off I don't hate MJJC or you for that matter.

In fact you had already said your apology for the unmentionable tweet earlier in the year and there is absolutely no need for a second one. What is done, is done and unfortunately clocks can never be turned back, no matter how hard we wish.

Yes I was very upset by the behaviour of your admin, Ivy. Not only did she block me but her friend andjustice4some too for some completely unknown reason to me. And because I was blocked I had no way of communicating with them direct to ask why.
Whether it was coincidental or not the account of MJJC also blocked me at the same time. I think that Qbees has now re-adjusted this, but I would need to check on the twitter site.

Very quickly after this I started receiving emails from friends telling me about private messaging about me and they themselves could not understand why others were so bothered about me tweeting about MLB.

So from all of this I could only assume that MJJC, Ivy and friend did not like me tweeting about MLB and were trying to force their opinions and were using threatening and bullying tactics.
I will also add that others were tweeting about MLB but they were not blocked, so of course, it made me feel targeted and made me extremely angry.

So now Ivy has had her say on twitter. But wait...
Not that I would expect anything different, she has her say to me on twitter, but I cannot even respond back because I am blocked.
That is like somebody coming at me with a weapon and I am defenceless.

Great start to the MJJC "statement" issued...

So unfortunately for you, I am going to answer those tweets from Ivy...

Ivy might like to think that her twitter account is her personal account. That in fact is true.
But, and we have a big BUT here, whatever account name Ivy chooses to use, it could be "Jack" for all I care, people follow her because she is Ivy from MJJC and therefore, whether she likes it not wherever or whatever other site she chooses to use she is always representing MJJC and how she conducts herself will always reflect on MJJC.
Unfortunately, it is a fact of life and how it works.

Ivy claims I have an association with Taaj. That is the most laughable thing ever.
Back in 2010 maybe early 2011 I communicated with Taaj, asked her a few questions, requested some information, that type of thing. Taaj responded to me and helped me with what I wanted to know.
Then the MLB saga blew up and yes I have asked Taaj a few questions, I am interested to know because I care about Michael's legacy and his children. If there is a possibility that things are not quite right regarding the T&B auction at Juliens and it is proven to be the case, of course I am going to stand up for Michael's legacy. That is what I do...
Taaj has never been rude to me, only obliging and helpful in the past to me, and I see no reason that should I wish to ask a question directly why I should be "forced" to feel that I am not "allowed".

So WOW that is really some major association I have with Taaj !!! Good grief...

Another great start to the MJJC statement.

I could tell you a lot about how Taaj got involved with the MLB saga and how it came about, but I doubt very much you would be interested to know the truth...
All "some" people see is Taaj being involved and turn a blind eye. But not for me, I like to know the truth and understand what is happening.
If there was somebody involved who was my worse enemy I would never turn a blind eye. Michael's legacy and his 3 children mean more to me than that. My love for Michael and his legacy is far greater.

Ivy has never followed me and I have always been pleased that she never has.

This tweet is interesting..


Ivy @Ivy_4MJ
@ILLBeThere777 I cannot believe that someone had a tantrum just because I blocked them but apparently I'm THAT important in their life.

Ivy needs to stop tripping over her own ego.
The only reason why I followed Ivy is because I like to keep myself alerted for signs of unpleasantness within the MJ fan community.

An example of a common type of bullying and threat...

andjustice4MJ @andjustice4some
Yes, Michael said it's all for L.O.V.E. but even he had his limits. If you RT craziness or interact with #craycray, I will block you.
Retweeted by Ivy


Ivy and Justice used to great things. I used to support Justice whole heartily but sadly agendas have changed and to be honest following either of them now has become quite pointless.


I know how difficult it is to run a forum. I know the pressures and the headaches it brings with trying to have your own life and juggling work commitments. I used to be senior admin on a fan forum which had several thousand members, not as big as MJJC but it was enough. Since 2010 I have my own forum and a group of members which is great and it is manageable.

The difference being is that on both forums which I ran there were no rules, no limits and no boundaries. The only thing was RESPECT and this does not even have to be said or mentioned, respect is always there, no matter what.

I have only ever banned one person and I have never blocked anybody on twitter or facebook.

It is not how I operate. I find all this banning and blocking tactics completely bizarre behaviour and causes unnecessary upset, stress and unsettlement within the fan base.

From my own experience of the MJJC forum I was quite alarmed at how "opinions" were forced. It was very alien to me and made me feel very uncomfortable. In fact it was the most unwelcoming experience I have ever encountered.

I interact with all my members, nobody is left out in the cold and not feeling welcome.

So again this tweet from Ivy is completely alien to me and again reminded me of how I personally felt on the MJJC forum...

Ivy @Ivy_4MJ
@Qbees @IamSpeechless10 it isn't hate, I said absolutely nothing abt u & there's no requirement for me to follow or interact w/ u. peace out



You see how easy it is to gain an opinion on the MJJC forum. Just a few simple words has an impact.

I am not even going to explain any more as to exactly how I feel and what my views are, it is completely pointless, Ivy obviously thinks she is so smart and clever. I have just been messaged and alerted to her re-tweeting what her followers have to say to her about her tweeting at me yesterday.
I feel sorry for them, I really do...

I wonder if they realise that Ivy was tweeting to an account that is defenceless and unable to respond due to being blocked. Just shows what type of person Ivy really is and is what she really is all about, constant searching for praise and support from others just to boost her ego. So sad...

But don't worry it is just another impact and evidence as to how staff at MJJC behave...

At least I know where to go and be amongst others that only have pure love for Michael and have his future legacy close to their hearts, and that is at my own forum. Nobody there is on a power / ego trip and nobody there has any interest whatsoever of "some" that live and breathe it.

I am afraid you have a long way to go to realise your statement and it all starts from the top....

Anyway if the MJJC account on twitter is now re-following me I will be sure to be doing the same back, like I have said I do not believe in all this banning / blocking lark it is harmful to us all and causes unnecessary bad feeling which is completely pointless when there are so many important issues in this world...



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https://twitter.com/IamSpeechless10

My guess she was blocked on the MJJC twitter was for preaching and supporting Malik.

 

[ivy]

First of all I did not block her from MJJC twitter, you all know that I rarely log in from there, do a few updates and I never block anyone.

I blocked her from my personal twitter. It was after a recent attack from Taaj to me which all her friends joined, it included calling me a dog, a lesbian and so on. At that time I checked people that were tweeting to her and RT'ing her and so on and I blocked many people. The main reason I blocked Iamspeechless is that 1) she was rt'ing taaj as well as 2) she had a tweet about "good" and "evil" side and how she will only wish merry Christmas to the people on the "good" side. I don't interact people that divides the fan community as "real-fake" or "good-evil".

the claim that she cannot respond back is totally untrue - my mjjc email is on my twitter profile ANYONE can email me if they please. It's not like she asked me why she was blocked at all. after you post your message she had a break down. I have seen that she was talking about "certain people" on her twitter. I also don't have ego, the only reason I said that because as also qbee knows she had a tantrum that lasted for multiple tweets and close to an hour yesterday. honestly that was so childish from her part and if she's going to make it a big deal of it I'm going to call her on it. furthermore if following me has become "pointless" why is she crying like a baby because I blocked her.

I don't care if she doesn't block anyone or how she operates, this is my twitter and I'm going to continue to block whomever I want. As the way I act, I'm 100 times more rational, calm, kind than all of these people and I never curse.

Edited to add

In fact you had already said your apology for the unmentionable tweet earlier in the year and there is absolutely no need for a second one.

this is the **** tweet to TM. For a person not associated with her she knows way too much

Very quickly after this I started receiving emails from friends telling me about private messaging about me

I'm not the one who is private messaging about her. I don't know who she is, I don't talk or message about her or any other people.

The only reason why I followed Ivy is because I like to keep myself alerted for signs of unpleasantness within the MJ fan community.

Ivy has never followed me and I have always been pleased that she never has.

and after this sentence I have no reason to unblock her or respond to any communications from her. she was already hating on me before I even blocked her

 

[Rudolf]

She is acting childish. Everyone has a right to block whoever they please.

 

[Gaz]

I'm just going to tell them to take it up with the person directly and the fact none of your personal twitters represent or are a part of MJJC

Just carry on as you are guys, just because you are staff of MJJC does not give anyone the right to tell you how to carry yourselves on the internet.

 

[qbee]

Yes she is being over dramatic
but she is unblocked and followed by MJJC twitter now so hopefully that will calm her down.
Its possible I blocked her from MJJC Twitter if she was RT any mess about MJJC or Ivy from TM
but I dont remember ... but I did unblock her on MJJC twitter yesterday and reached out to her
to help calm her down .. she hasnt tweeted anything else about it since yesterday.


Thats all you really can do Gaz .. is tell her to resolve the issue peronally with Ivy
Just tell her you have no authority over anyones personal accounts outside of MJJC
that she can email Ivy directly if she wants to resolve this personal issue with her.

Hopefully she is calmed down now .. and her rants will stop

 

[Gaz]

The only thing you might want to do is change the email to your own one, up to you of course.

 

[ivy]

I'll remove the mjjc email and reference from twitter. I have no intention to post or give any personal email . I don't want these people contact me on a personal level or get any of my personal information.

 

[Gaz]

Don't blame you, you need to have your freedom to do what ever you wish on the internet.