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If “One More Chance” was properly released and promoted, would it have been Michael’s 2000s success?

threatened2020 said:
Why should you report even if it wasnt a false alarm? Its a discussion with different opinions.
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I honestly didn't think I'd need to put an lol for this one, but then I remembered I only posted this the other day.

innuendo141 said:
Picking up on humour or sarcasm is not a strongpoint of MJJC.
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One More Chance is very good rnb music. It's very of the era, which I mean, the 90s/00s are known for amazing rnb songs of course. R. Kelly, the scumbag as he is, was very good at making rnb music. Naturally One More Chance is a great song. The only thing it really lacked was a completed music video with close ups of Michael's face. I think it would've done marginally better, but not by too much.

People that weren't around in the early 00s probably don't really get it, because they didn't experience it as it happened, but Michael was relentlessly hounded in the media. It was worse than it was in the 90s, ignoring the immediate fallout of Chandler's allegations. It felt like every time you flipped the channel to CNN or Fox, they were talking shit about MJ and saying what a freak he was. When he dangled Blanket over the balcony, his credibility, that was already shot, made it so he may as well have dropped him. He was guilty of every and anything in the eyes of the mass media by that point. All this to say, they weren't talking about his music--they didn't care.
 
innuendo141 said:
It's interesting - on the Steve Hoffman forum recently someone said that the line "Tell her this for me" is actually sung by R. Kelly - I've never thought this, it always just sounded like a rough odd MJ delivery.
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Many fans have picked this up before - MJ sings the last one after the bridge which sounds far less gritty. It was probably a stylistic choice but I have to agree the production of this song as well as YANA are among the worst in terms of digital alterations, almost as bad as Cascio tracks!

The Ford Remix is interesting and many fans suspected it was R. Kelly, despite DJ Ford being adamant it was MJ from multitracks with pitch correction. A remix with this extracted vocal + instrumental has been passed off as an "R. Kelly demo" but I now suspect most of the vocals are neither MJ nor R. Kelly - I think it is actually Nick Vitola the lead singer of R. Kelly's boyband Secret Weapon who also recorded a writer's demo that leaked recently (very similar but slightly different vocal take) though the "Tell her this for me" and "One more chance at love yeah" ad-libs in the Ford mix still sounds like R. Kelly spliced in.
 
Frankyboy5 said:
Many fans have picked this up before - MJ sings the last one after the bridge which sounds far less gritty. It was probably a stylistic choice but I have to agree the production of this song as well as YANA are among the worst in terms of digital alterations, almost as bad as Cascio tracks!

The Ford Remix is interesting and many fans suspected it was R. Kelly, despite DJ Ford being adamant it was MJ from multitracks with pitch correction. A remix with this extracted vocal + instrumental has been passed off as an "R. Kelly demo" but I now suspect most of the vocals are neither MJ nor R. Kelly - I think it is actually Nick Vitola the lead singer of R. Kelly's boyband Secret Weapon who also recorded a writer's demo that leaked recently (very similar but slightly different vocal take) though the "Tell her this for me" and "One more chance at love yeah" ad-libs in the Ford mix still sounds like R. Kelly spliced in.
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Very interesting to read, thanks for that!
 
One last opportunity for him would be to include it on This Is It. I remember thinking in 2009 how strange he didn't consider it in the setlist. At the time it seemed logical to include it.
 
Spaceship said:
If the song was on Invincible and released as a single in 2001, possibly? But there was no way it was going to do well in 2003 following the Bashir doc, let alone the Arvizo allegations in November.
Had the Bashir/Arvizo disaster never happened? I still doubt it would've succeeded. MJ was seen as a has-been, and the song is just a lazy Off the Wall retread that also sounds like R. Kelly's "Ignition" remix. The lyrics are a joke, too.

May R. Kelly rot in prison.
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There is also the pop music climate to consider. In 2004, music was slightly changing in hip-hop and R&B. While these genres were still popular, they were taking on more EDM elements and becoming experimental (Usher’s “Yeah!”, Hilary Duff, Outkast). How Michael’s song “One More Chance” fits in here is how it sounds experimental, even without EDM elements.
 
Michael4MyLife said:
One last opportunity for him would be to include it on This Is It. I remember thinking in 2009 how strange he didn't consider it in the setlist. At the time it seemed logical to include it.
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There is not one song on the list of TII songs that were confirmed to be rehearsed or chosen that I would consider removing for One More Chance. And out of all the songs in his repertoire that have never been performed live, this would be towards the bottom for me.
 
I think it would probably been quite succesful if the video released and things went differently. Kinda hard to say though.
 
One More Chance is remarkable in Michael's oeuvre, because of the way it was created. There is no Bruce Swedien on this track. Remember, on Invincible, Bruce still mixed all the songs, even the ones of Rodney Jerkins. But One More Chance is mixed by Serban Ghenea. He couldn't be more different from Bruce Swedien. Swedien was the guy behind the big mixing consoles. Mixing analogue. Working in big studios. Serban is famous for his In The Box (ITB) workflow: doing everything in the computer, on the go, as he tells himself in this clip. That's the opposite of the way Bruce worked. It's also radically different from the way Michael had always worked.

One More Chance marks this change in Michaels catalogue. We can discuss whether or not it was Michaels decision to adapt to modern technology or not. That's not my impression from the credits. The whole song seems to be a R. Kelly production. Apart from Brad Buxer, who recorderd Michaels vocals, most contributors on this track seem to be long time R. Kelly collaborators. It seems like the whole thing was made by Kelly, and Michael hastily added vocals and a string idea.

It always perplexed me to see Brad Buxer listed as recording engineer for Michael's vocals. Buxer is a talented guy, for sure, but normally Michael would have a proper recording engineer at hand. It feels like the whole thing was done in such a hurry, that Buxer (who at one time was living in the guest house in Neverland) just quickly did it. In a hotel room or something, who knows.
 
Victorious said:
Michael loved the 'Ignition remix' but never in a hundred years would he record a song like that
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I'm not talking about the lyrics. "One More Chance" sounds like a midtempo ballad version of the "Ignition" remix.

Victorious said:
It's just a love song about a second change in love..?
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By that logic, "Leave Me Alone" is just a song about telling a girl to leave you alone and not actually MJ telling the media to leave him alone.

Read between the lines lol
 
Spaceship said:
I'm not talking about the lyrics. "One More Chance" sounds like a midtempo ballad version of the "Ignition" remix.
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I don't hear it

Spaceship said:
By that logic, "Leave Me Alone" is just a song about telling a girl to leave you alone and not actually MJ telling the media to leave him alone.
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'Leave Me Alone' is a song about a girl yes, the video made it about the press

Spaceship said:
Read between the lines lol
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There is an indication between your lines that he is asking the public for another chance after the Bashir doc.?
 
Michael4MyLife said:
One last opportunity for him would be to include it on This Is It. I remember thinking in 2009 how strange he didn't consider it in the setlist. At the time it seemed logical to include it.
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No offence, but why would you find it strange that Michael didn't include One More Chance on the This Is It setlist?

There are so many far better and well-known songs, such as PYT, Who Is It, and Give In To Me, that Michael never performed live and wasn't going to either during This Is It. So why would he even consider performing One More Chance on This Is It?
 
Nite Line said:
I would have loved it if he performed Give In To Me instead of Beat It at the dangerous tour.
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Beat It was way too energetic to leave off the Dangerous show - the energy going from that to WDAN is almost the highlight of the show. But I would definitely have included GITM somewhere - it would have made for a great encore song I think. Or slot it in after Smooth Criminal maybe.

I have no doubt that it would be lip synced. Don't care!
 
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Remove any of these for more Dangerous songs. I do like the intro to Heal the World with the ballerina, but the song is boring as all hell. The lack of Remember the Time is already criminal enough.

I have a hard time imagining One More Chance live, but I'm sure it would be good. Could very easily have it in a medley with Butterflies and Break of Dawn.
 
Michaels Lover said:
nooooooooooooo
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"Working Day and Night" felt so out of place in the Dangerous tour. Why does this get performed instead of "Rock with You" or "Off the Wall"? It wasn't even a single.

At least "Give in to Me" is from the Dangerous album and eventually was released as a single.
 
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