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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

zinniabooklover said:
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I was right!!!

I want an apology from the people who indirectly accused me of disrespecting Michael Prince just because I disagreed with him.
 
Ronald Stain said:
Early 2000s? That means 2001, 2002 and 2003. But what are they gonna show? Sony vs MJ accident and second accusation? What about court and TII
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Note sure why you keep taking his words absolutely literally when it's clear he throws words and terms around that aren't always literal. The movie covers Michael's entire adult life. He died 2009. Colman isn't saying it's literally only 2000-2003. For goodness sakes.
 
kelley said:
Note sure why you keep taking his words absolutely literally when it's clear he throws words and terms around that aren't always literal. The movie covers Michael's entire adult life. He died 2009. Colman isn't saying it's literally only 2000-2003. For goodness sakes.
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Fine
 
“Joe fiercely loved his children,” Domingo says. “He may not have been a warm person, but he loved them. And he had a different way of showing it, like, ‘I’m going to make you the best that you are, because that’s my way of loving you.’ He was a very complicated man.”

And on whether the film, which has been approved by the family, will address the accusations of child abuse that dogged the singer’s later career, he says, “We go through three decades of Michael’s life and we get to the early Noughts. That’s all I can say.” He adds that the Jackson family are “on board with us making the most complex film possible”.

The Times
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
The most meaningful part is this means we'll definitely cover the late 90s. HIStory, the first exposure to propfol, the birth of his children, and the Munich Performance accident.
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Who is playing Lisa Marie Presley, Elizabeth Taylor, Janet Jackson and Chris Tucker?? They have to be here
 
I promised to find this before but had some trouble. Below's an excerpt of Joe's book The Jacksons, published in Germany in 2004 and 2009 and translated by a fan, from another language. He talks about his grandfather Nero (circa 1838 - 1934), born into slavery.
Our Ancestors

The name Jackson was recieved by us from my great-grandfather on the part of the father, July Gale.
Nobody called him July, everybody called him just Jack.
Great-grandfather Jack was born in tribe Chostaw in the beginning of 19 centurie. He was an Indian shaman.
And he was very much appreciated for abilities for doctoring. Also Jack in his youth worked as a scout in the USA army.
Then great-grandfather has fallen in love with the fine girl by name Gina. In 1838 they gave birth to their first son, a boy whom they have named Israel. Unfortunately in past was so, that if one of the child's perants was a slave, the child also was considered a slave.
Indian Jack was " the free person ", but my great-grandmother unfortunately was a slave, that's why Israel couldn't hope for anything else, at least not yet.
When Israel has grown up, people have nicknamed him Nero. Nero, son of Jack, and eventually from this it has turned to Nero Jack-son.
As well as my great-grandfather, Nero was tall and light-skined, with high cheekbones and small sparkling eyes. And he was very proud of himself. Nero was still a boy when Jack started to transfer him his shaman knowledge. But despite of gift to doctoring and despite of his need for the tribe, to affliction of his parents, Nero has been sold to a plantation, to Louisiana. As well as other slaves, Nero had to eat there and then where it was told by the owners - kneeling before a low trough from which he scooped with a spoon. Soon Nero had enough of it and he ran away. The owner of a plantation immideately has sent people which searched all night long and have caught the fluent slave on the river, many miles away from the plantation. They have beaten Nero, up so bad, that he lost litres of his blood.
When some months later Nero has finally recovered, his owner wanted to sell him, but slaves which has previously escaped, were impossible to sell under the same high price, so instead of it owner of Nero has decided to force him to work as much as possible. My grandfather was tormented on crude cotton fields of the South, held down on hands and legs. Once fetters all the same have removed, and Nero has again dared to run away. This time the owner of a plantation himself has headed search group and has appointed the award to the one who will catch Nero. He was afraid, that other slaves will follow his example if he will not catch it him. And when he has really tracked down Nero, he has taken a heated chimney nipper and squeezed his nose with them until Nero has fallen without feelings. He has left my grandfather to lay on the ground because thought, that Nero was dead. But he was so strong, that has gone through also this awful punishment! But scars of the burn have remained with him up to the end of his days.

For the time, that Nero has lived on a plantation in Louisiana, he had 6 children born from his girlfriend. Later he married an Indian Chostaw - well, she was an Indian only on 3/4 - my grandmother Emmaline. Probably, his life with my grandmother was some kind of a refuge from awful working conditions, and those who has enthralled him, could only be jelous at harmonies of his marriage and home life. They did not need many money to be happy because they loved each other. Emmaline was from Louisiana, she has gone to her mother slightly yellowish color of a skin.
When the president Lincoln released slaves on May, 31, 1865 Nero's situation got better. At last he could earn for a life adequately - selling the Indian medicines. With time he became famous because he has cured hundreds of people. His abilities of the sorcerer became widely known, and people came from far away so he'd he help them.
Grandfather Nero conducted a simple life and has saved so much money, that he and my grandmother could get a farm in Sunnyvale in Missisippy. He has paid with cach for 120 hectares of the fertile ground. There Nero and Emmaline had 15 children (and in general Nero had 21 children). My grandfather, grandmother and all their huge clan was fed from this ground where they planted corn, tomatoes, other vegetables, held chickens, pigs and cows.
Nero then frequently wandered in the woods to collect grasses. From roots and other parts he made broth, spilled it in bottles and gave it to the patients to drink, he made also ointments of various wood grasses. With this things he treated Indians and former slaves, and they paid for it to him with what they could.

Nero also liked to sing and frequently executed old military dances of Chostaw. Once Saturday evening the sheriff and his people have blocked with ropes the street on which he danced, and have tried to arrest him for infringement of a public order, but Nero has felt danger. He has jumped on the horse, has elegantly jumped through an obstacle and has escaped. After that the sheriff has left him alone.
When children Nero and Emmaline have grown and have created their own families, he has invited the children of his younger brother William to his farm, among them was also my senior cousin Rufus. Rufus has somehow told to me, he should be given more attention to grasses with which the grandfather treated illnesses. But he then was still a child and as many children, did not think of as far as valuable can be knowledge of ancestors.
When Rufus was 4, Nero's wife has died. In the meantime Nero too became old and weak, and since he could not look after the farm as earlier, he had to buy some things from one white man by the name Eroy. He spent the small amounts of money, but the Eroy very carefully conducted the accounts. Rufus was then still a child; the only thing, that he has noticed is that Nero becomes weaker. And it caused Nero to hand over to Eroy, for on storage some important papers so he could keep them for him. In the end eroy managed - the way Rufus and I have guessed later - to appropriate documents on owning of the farm, ostensibly as debt payments which Nero owned him.

That's how our family has lost all rights on this fertile ground where hundreds peach and pear trees which my relatives carefully looked after, grew. When later Rufus and I have have found out, that there, under the ground were huge oil fields, we have simply lost gift of speech since the rent for the right of drilling already then made to 1,2 million dollars. Meanwhile the deposit should cost at least good 100 million.
The last years of his life Nero lived on the farm alone, because William and Rufus have again left home. He has died in 1924, long before my birth. My father Samuel, lived back than in Arkansas where he has found work, he has found out about death of the father too late and couldn't come to funeral. My uncle Sam has arrived from Oklahoma to participate in it, and other son of the grandfather, my uncle Esco too had come there. My father was Nero's younger son. He had a twin sister Janey D. Hall.
My great-grandmother on the part of mother - Mattie Daniel. Mattie was born in 1864. Her mother, handicaped, was the daughter of the planter, father - the slave on a plantation of her father. Despite of protests of mother, Mattie has been sold to other family because the planter did not like that her father was black. When I was young, Mattie's history set me thinking. If I had children, I thought, I would not lower eyes from them and wouldn't allow anybody to take them away from me.
Anyway, Mattie never could enjoy a life of society, as her mother. As well as Nero, my great-grandfather on the part of mother was the slave collecting a cotton. Mattie was married 2 times and had 17 children. One of her daughters was my grandmother, another - my cousin grandmother Verna.

Nero was a respectable person due to doctoring abilities and also because at he owned a ground, that during this time was unusual to the former slave. As to business qualities, my father has gone to him, he too was respected, mainly for good education. Samuel studied 9 years in Alcorn College in Mississipi and when he was 24, he already were Bachelor and Master Degree, that on a boundary of centuries was a rarity for the young man from minority .
After final examinations he has found out, that in Ashley Country, Arkansas, there's an empty palce of a teacher. He walked there 200 km from Mississipi to participate in competition on this place, and has received it.
Earlier in a province, in initial and the higher school only one teacher taught. Professor Jackson as he was named, had 2 especially clever schoolgirls to whom he from the very beginning has paid attention - sisters King. One them them, Chrystal - bright individuality, with a dazzling smile and loud laughter. When she was 16 years, he married her. It was my mother.
In a small town where I lived, everybody loved my family. We spent our free time at home or in church and since Dad has been well educated, neighbours admired him. And we always had friends.
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Where Are Michael's Ancestors From?

I've always wondered where Michael's ancestors were from. Can anyone help?? Which country in particular? I know they are an African American family. :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
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Mister_Jay_Tee said:
The most meaningful part is this means we'll definitely cover the late 90s. HIStory, the first exposure to propfol, the birth of his children, and the Munich Performance accident.
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I mean, it doesn’t really mean that. Elvis ends in 1977, but the 60s e.g. are largely skipped. So are his army years and the 3-4 last years of his life.

I believe that, even if the movie ends in 2009, many of the more obscure details/moments will not be shown and many years will be skipped altogether. The 1999 bridge accident, as much as it is something which greatly affected Michael, I doubt will be a major plot line in this biopic. And I think many things die-hard fans expect to see (e.g. the Sony protests) will not be part of the film at all. Just my opinion.

Narratively, they will probably do what the Estate has been doing since 2009: present the 1980s as the absolute pinnacle of his existence and then show the “downfall” in the 90s. I can’t see them spending much time on each album release, as some people would like.

Some people basically expect a documentary (I’m not speaking about you @Mister_Jay_Tee) and think they will get to see Michael in the studio recording In The Back. They will be very disappointed.
 
dethorro said:
I mean, it doesn’t really mean that. Elvis ends in 1977, but the 60s e.g. are largely skipped. So are his army years and the 3-4 last years of his life.

I believe that, even if the movie ends in 2009, many of the more obscure details/moments will not be shown and many years will be skipped altogether. The 1999 bridge accident, as much as it is something which greatly affected Michael, I doubt will be a major plot line in this biopic. And I think many things die-hard fans expect to see (e.g. the Sony protests) will not be part of the film at all. Just my opinion.

Narratively, they will probably do what the Estate has been doing since 2009: present the 1980s as the absolute pinnacle of his existence and then show the “downfall” in the 90s. I can’t see them spending much time on each album release, as some people would like.

Some people basically expect a documentary (I’m not speaking about you @Mister_Jay_Tee) and think they will get to see Michael in the studio recording In The Back. They will be very disappointed.
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I agree with you that the highlighted events were not among the most meaningful ones in Michael's life. Yes, an accident happened, but it's not like a Schuhmacher happened there. Yes, he protested, but ... I would rather have them invest more time into getting the trial explained properly than have them show him protest against Sony.
 
DuranDuran said:
I think that would be Marvel movies like Avengers Endgame, Black Panther, Spider-Man: No Way Home or the recent Deadpool & Wolverine.
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I'm confused, I've so far seen very little hype other than from a few articles and those who attended the screenings? There is obviously discussion and snippets of Jaafar but have I missed something? Lol

Not THAT many people even know about an upcoming biopic.

I would fully expect that to change big time over the coming months but this is the most hyped I've ever seen a movie be among the public? That's straight up lies.
 
Sensual visionary said:
I promised to find this before but had some trouble. Below's an excerpt of Joe's book The Jacksons, published in Germany in 2004 and 2009 and translated by a fan, from another language. He talks about his grandfather Nero (circa 1838 - 1934), born into slavery.

from:

Where Are Michael's Ancestors From?

I've always wondered where Michael's ancestors were from. Can anyone help?? Which country in particular? I know they are an African American family. :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
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Joseph's father, Samuel Jackson, always intrigued me with those distinctive Jackson-cheekbones and blue eyes. And he also had vitiligo (although I am not 100% sure the second photo has been altered)


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DuranDuran said:
This looks like R&B singer Rufus Thomas to me. He was known for R&B hits like Walking The Dog, Do The Funky Chicken, & Push And Pull. He's also the father of singer Carla Thomas. They were both on Stax Records. Rufus & Carla are in the 1973 concert movie Wattstax, which I have on DVD.
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I already doubted it was him.. smh. It can also be Louis armstrong btw.. (although I don't think he had vitiligo)

Sorry, please ignore my post guys!
 
dethorro said:
I mean, it doesn’t really mean that. Elvis ends in 1977, but the 60s e.g. are largely skipped. So are his army years and the 3-4 last years of his life.

I believe that, even if the movie ends in 2009, many of the more obscure details/moments will not be shown and many years will be skipped altogether. The 1999 bridge accident, as much as it is something which greatly affected Michael, I doubt will be a major plot line in this biopic. And I think many things die-hard fans expect to see (e.g. the Sony protests) will not be part of the film at all. Just my opinion.

Narratively, they will probably do what the Estate has been doing since 2009: present the 1980s as the absolute pinnacle of his existence and then show the “downfall” in the 90s. I can’t see them spending much time on each album release, as some people would like.

Some people basically expect a documentary (I’m not speaking about you @Mister_Jay_Tee) and think they will get to see Michael in the studio recording In The Back. They will be very disappointed.
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The things I listed in the second sentence do not invalidate the 1st sentence. I think those things would be good to see. But hardly mandatory.

For all we know, it could be showing his childhood, the moonwalk, and then just the allegations.
 
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