Michael & the term: "Drug Addict"

@ ForeverKOP the anserws to ur questions are in this thread! I know some have a bit of an attitude ( I can get why, sorry) and I did too have one, so I apologize for myself! But, at the same time the answers are here. We answered them reguardless, did u not notice? So do u understand them is my question? What else is there u want to know that has yet to be answered, or is that all?
 
The auptosy report said he had healthy organs & liver. That isn't something a drug addict would have. Secondly he had no pills in his body! The pills that were found in his home that were prescribe to him were'nt being used by him as prescribe. Many were barely touched and neither were over used. Is that consistent with a drug addict? NO! Michael only died from what Murray gave to him on June 25th only.

See if u read the right info then u would get your answers, instead of watching a crap hollywood Doc like Dr. Drew who had 3 of his own patients commit suicide in a hospital, that he couldn't even help! He also believe's MJ to be guitly! Dr. Drew knows crap and is using MJ to get ratiings only.

Thank you for this^^^. How many times in this thread we have suggested that people read the autopsy report. There is nothing impatient and rude is stating that. It is one of the best resources we have to help debunk the drug addict story.
 
Me too..... :unsure: :fear:

Me three, and after the original poster wrote that the doctor "gotta know something" it made me think that the person was not seriously interested in reading the information that shows Michael was not a DA. Shouldn't the person have written instead "we need to send the doctor some information or the doctor is misinformed?"

Sorry for double posting.
 
Me three, and after the original poster wrote that the doctor "gotta know something" it made me think that the person was not seriously interested in reading the information that shows Michael was not a DA. Shouldn't the person have written instead "we need to send the doctor some information or the doctor is misinformed?"

Sorry for double posting.

Like I said in beginning of that post, I hadn't read of any of the responses yet. I was pointing strictly to the what the doctor said about his "years of experience" in the medical field.
 
Once you look at the autopsy thread before it was sent to the archives, read about the conditions of his organs, read what was in his stomach, don't confuse medication reactions from doctors' visits for legit procedures, don't go with the family intervention story until you look at the intervention thread which shows what the family was doing at the time they said they were having an intervention, then there will be little room for confusion.

Remember it takes reading and understanding to remove the confusion and this takes a lot of time and patience.


Very true.add in the interviews from ppl who were actually around.even bleepers like bain said the interventions never happened look on utube.his b.guards talking about mj being harrassed by his family and wanting then kept away cause he was sick of them asking him to get involved in biz deals. Just like with sneddon claiming dozens of invisible abuse victims now we have claims of invisible drugs with out a single bit of evidence to back it .and the evidence we have saying the total opposite

Yes, Michael died from a drug overdose. BUT those were the drugs given to him by a doctor, and it wasn't painkillers or any other "usual" drugs addicts use. Michael's situation is different, but by calling him an addict people simplify things. And public for the most part is lazy, they don't want to read up the details. They just hear that a celebrity died from a drug overdose and they instantly think an addict.

Also, let's see who helped them to think that way. The first person was Brian Oxman, the Jacksons' lawyer who said at the hospital that he always knew this would happen because Michael had problems with drugs. And then there was Michael's family - his sisters Janet and Rebbie and his mother Katherine who talked about the interventions and his denial. And general public thinks, "Oh that's his family, of course they know what was going on with him, if they say he was a drug addict in denial, then it must be true".

A lot of us are pointing to the family & their stories of interventions. What do you guys think their motives were when they said those things to the press? When I first saw Janet on Robin Robert's show, I thought she was just a little sister grieving the loss of her big brother, but when I saw how many people got upset when she started talking about the drug interventions in 2007 & some that allegedly took place a few months prior to his death, I got confused again. Were they all straight out lying when they said these things? Or were they legitimately concerned that something was going to happen to Michael with the drugs & reached out to help him? I think the whole Jackson family confuses me, period. Also, in Oct 2010 on Oprah's show, Lisa Marie also said something about their marriage falling apart because of his drug use (along with other reasons). Is that relevant?

KOP when you find the information, what are you going to do with it. Is this for your own peace of mind or are you trying to educate the masses out there.

Peace of mind, Petra.

Elusive, that is a good point. none of the news media including Diamond indicated that the pills remaining in the bottles found in his house showed he was not using them consistently. In fact, among 30 pills prescribed since April there would be about 4 pills used in some cases, but you can look at the thread to get the specific numbers of unused pills. Diamond made that mistake in a letter to a fan saying that they found a lot of medicine in his home and we should not look at the autopsy report. That is why it is important for you to read the information yourself, and you need to look at the discussions too because people with more medical knowledge have explained what the technical information in the autopsy means. I know it is a long thread, but read 10 pages a day and you should be OK.

Slightly off topic, but isn't it dangerous if you don't complete taking all of the medicine a doctor has prescribed to you?

Can you give me a link to the thread you're talking about (if it isn't too much of a pain)?


Exactly.talking head media whores who dont know the facts or do know then but ignore them as it doesnt fit with their view . As stated the facts are available to the public and media whores but they act like those facts dont excist because it goes against their agenda.just like 93 and 03. I presune the starter of this thread would not even need to ask about pinsky if they had read the things we have advised.

My reading list:
-Autopsy report (I've already read it before, once on the day it was released & a second time later that year, but didn't quite understand all of the drugs mentioned in it & what their uses were. Also didn't understand some of the medical issues Michael dealt with).
-Autopsy report thread - Anyone have a link?
-"Intervention thread" - Anyone have a link?
-Anything else you'd recommend?


u can also add in the fact theres are no charges of supplying to an addict as there is no evidence of addiction and also add in the DEA investigation of other drs such as klien and the fact they found no evidence of over prescribing etc which would lead to charges.

Didn't Klein give Michael 60-something shots of Demerol in the few months before his death?

Maybe someone could make a sticky filled with facts and no discussions to show that he was not a drug addict at death.

Precisely what I was looking for. This thread is helping me though, so it's all good.

 
He wasn´t a drugaddict. I´ve been around to many times to not notice. Just one time have I seen him getting something, and that was for the pain in his back. And he kept saying he didn´t want anything to strong. Last time I saw him was in the spring of 2009 and there were nothing at that time either. He was skinny but nothing else.
He had trouble sleeping, many of us do, and he needed help with that. Nothing else. He was a master living with the pain in his joints.
 
ForeverKOP, you should also keep in mind that all the people who kept in constant touch with Michael for lengthy periods of time have all stated that they never saw Michael using drugs or being drugged. Among those people are the Cascios, Thomas Mesereau, the guy at whose house Michael stayed in Ireland, his doctor in Ireland etc, his bodyguards from Las Vegas, etc. All of them said he was not using. And his family who he saw only occassionally spoke about drug abuse and intervention. Why did they say that? We can only speculate about their motives.
 
Lisa Marie also said something about their marriage falling apart because of his drug use (along with other reasons)

I dont remeber lisa marie stating that was the real cause for their break up....
 
Lisa Marie confuses her own self when she speaks! LOL She never makes any sense!

She said on the O show that she didn't know that MJ had a drug problem until AFTRER they divorce. Yet, says in the same interview that she divorced him because she knew he had a drug problem! WHAT?! o_O LMAO

Also remember that during the time when MJ was in rehab in 93 he and lisa marie were already together. So what the F*ck is this lady talking about? She knew he had an issue in 93 got help and that was it. her reason for wanting a divorce had shit to do with him on drugs! She can't even answer that question right, she is a bullsh*tter! Her family didn't like MJ it is really the only reason why she left him and all the stress from the media! But, she later regretted it and it's her loss!

Now, the Jackson calling MJ a drug addit is stupid since they were barely around him to say some crap like that! Look, at what they say when they have said those things. They can never give a date of who was there for the so called interventions and some have said they weren't able to go and just heard there was one and blah blah blah! The only truth is that MJ didn't want to see them so they got all paranoid and pissed and believed what others might have told them about him instead or made up their own idea as to why he didn't want them around.

Just think for a second here why would the Jacksons say MJ was too weak and drugged to do This Is It. Yet, at the same time bother him to do a reunion tour with them? So he was to drugged and weak for his own solo shows but, not for a Jackson family reuion? What a bunch of BULL!

And why R U askin if MJ not talking his meds the way he was suppose to dangerous for him? Then at the same time believe was getting injections from Klein because he was a drug addict!? Seriously, u need to pick a side already!
 
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This is a difficult discussion...Michael was not using now any drugs...he was clean...because he wanted not to get dependent to anything he choose this Propofol...it doens't give addiction...but it is too powerfull and dangerous...espeacially in the hands of a stupid doctor...but Michael was an addict (he did use Morphine and Demerol in 1993, he admitted that himself in interviews and songs...and we should understand this, the pain was so big...the accusations were very painfull and the humilation was very hard to support)...and a drug addict will always be a drug addict...important is to fight every day and stay clean...and Michael did that and we should be proud of him and defend him all the time!
 
He was addicted to painkillers due to the burns he suffered in the accident when he was filming the Pepsi commercial. The accusations made it worse and prompted him to enter rehab in late 1993 at the end of Dangerous tour. After he became sober, there are only rumors and after his death his family's interviews talking about interventions. There's a video where he talks about it, I think.
 
Like I said in beginning of that post, I hadn't read of any of the responses yet. I was pointing strictly to the what the doctor said about his "years of experience" in the medical field.

Years of experience in the medical field doesn't mean that a doctor can diagnose an addiction based on media reports, which is what I think Dr. Drew did. I think that a lot of people in the general public assume that Dr. Drew knows what he's talking about. However, unless he hasa actually seen a patient, he doesn't know. He never saw Michael, and her certainly never treated him.

You also asked if it's dangerous to stop taking medicines before they're gone. I think that depends on the medication. For instance, patients need to take the full prescription of antibiotics. Painkillers, on the other hand, you can take as you need. If you had surgery and the doctor gave you a prescription of painkillers, you don't need to take all of them, you just take what you need. There's no danger in not taking all of them.
 
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Michael said in his 1993 statement that his dependency on pain pills happened after a recent, excruciatingly painful scalp surgery. He had scalp surgery in 1993 in an attempt to repair damage from the 1984 burn. I haven't seen any evidence that Michael had any dependency issues before 1993, I think that it is mere speculation that he became addicted to anything in 1984. IMO the 1993 scalp surgery plus the stress due to the Chandler allegations led to the dependency.

Based on the autopsy report I don't think that Michael was actively addicted to any medications or any substance when he died.
 
"Originally Posted by bluetopez
The auptosy report said he had healthy organs & liver. That isn't something a drug addict would have. Secondly he had no pills in his body! The pills that were found in his home that were prescribe to him were'nt being used by him as prescribe. Many were barely touched and neither were over used. Is that consistent with a drug addict? NO! Michael only died from what Murray gave to him on June 25th only.

See if u read the right info then u would get your answers, instead of watching a crap hollywood Doc like Dr. Drew who had 3 of his own patients commit suicide in a hospital, that he couldn't even help! He also believe's MJ to be guitly! Dr. Drew knows crap and is using MJ to get ratiings only."
 
There is no reason to attack one another in this thread. Please stop. The OP is looking
for facts. Im very happy to have a thread started where we can present some facts.

Unless the talking heads on TV are willing to adress the FACTS of the autopsy report
and speak to those who were close to MJ lthe last few yrs of his life. they are all just Bla bla bla


Michael Jackson has admitted to having prescription drug abuse problems in the past
But testimony of those around him the last few years and evidense from autopsy report
shows Michael was not abusing drugs the last few years of his life up untill his death.


A drug abuser over takes and abuses the medications prescribed to them
evidense shows Michael took his Legal Dr prescribed medication as was prescribed or less
When people have medication that doesn't work or or feel is right for them, they usually
stop taking it. Which is EXACTLY what Michael did. This shows he wasnt addicted to them.

List of Medications prescribed over a 6 month period and found in MJs home

Lorazepam. prescribed April 28, 2009 - 30 pills.
June 25, 2009- two months later- still 9 pills remaining.
Michael took them as prescribed or LESS

Diazepam. prescribed June 20, 2009 60 pills
June 25, 2009 there were 57 remaining.
That means he only took three within the span of 5-6 days.

Temazepam. prescribed December 2008 30 Pills
June 25, 2009 3 pills left. _MJ stopped taking them they
They did not show up in the toxicology report.

Trazodone. prescribed April of 2009. 60 pills
June 25 38 pills left. seems he had stopped taking them.
Did NOT show up in the toxicology report

Clonazepam. prescribed April 30 pills
June 25 there 8 pills left MJ toook less then prescribed or stopped taking them
This was not found in his toxicology report either.

Tizanidine. issued on June 7, 2009 ten pills
June 25, 2009 there were 8 left. in the span of more than two weeks MJ two of these pills.

HYDROQUINONE and Benoquin.
creams and lotions that Michael used for his skin.

The Drugs that were found in MJs system from toxology report
were all adminsitered June 25th by Dr Murray to help MJ to SLEEP.

Lorazepam
Diazepam
tizanidine
Propofol Knocks you out COLD
Lidocaine numbs injection sight

Michael was not abusing drugs or looking for a recreational high
The only thing he was addicted to was having a good night sleep
NOTE: He planned on waking up :( to go to rehearsal the next day


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About supposed Family Drug interventions

Jackson's Former Publicist Dismisses Family Intervention Reports

Michael Jackson's former publicist RAYMONE BAIN has broken her silence to dismiss reports Janet Jackson and her siblings were planning an intervention to urge the King of Pop to seek help for his drug use.New rumours suggest the family initiative to help her troubled brother in 2007 and again earlier this year (09) - but their efforts failed because the pop superstar refused to see them, and locked them out of his home.

But Bain, who has been Jackson's personal publicist for many years, insists the story is "not true". She also refutes claims that her former boss stopped taking calls from his mother when she grew increasingly concerned about his drug use. Bain tells U.S. news show Access Hollywood, "I don't know of a time when Michael Jackson did not have access to his mother under my watch." And the publicist insists the King of Pop was "healthy" and "not abusing drugs" during the years she was his mouthpiece.


She says, "I'm not gonna hear it."
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... and to back Raymone Bain's statement

The Jackson's themselves stated in a letter

"We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these 'sources' and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate, and untrue claims for monetary reasons. It is time for these unfair and hurtful rumors, for profit, to end."

The letter undersigned by Katherine Jackson, Tito, Jackie, Marlon and Jermaine says that reports about Michael's fight against his addiction to pills and booze are unfounded.

Members of the Jackson family are coming to Michael's defense, saying media reports about his alleged dependency on painkillers and alcohol are not true. In an open letter, Jackson's mother, sisters and brothers say news organizations "have quoted 'sources' indicating that our family has attempted a drug intervention and engaged in an effort to take over his business affairs, because of this alleged drug and alcohol usage.

We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any kind of intervention whatsoever." The family members add that they and Michael have experienced years of false accusations and misrepresentations. ... http://www.mtv.com/news

Michael Jackson's family brands drug addiction battle claims 'bogus'
http://www.sawfnews.com/Gossip/42062.aspx

The Jackson family has also denied that they have either attempted intervention "We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these 'sources' and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate, and untrue claims for monetary reasons," they write in the letter. "It is time for these unfair and hurtful rumors, for profit, to end," they said. (ANI)

Jackson Family deny Michael's drug dependency
http://www.entertainmentafrica.mobi/music/view/news/10916

Some fans have saved copies of this actual letter_maybe they can provide it
 
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I understand that we shouldnt have to prove that MJ was not a drug abuser at the time of his death
but we need to be able to reply when we see false info being reported so the general public is not decieved.
Not every one has access to or can understand the autopsy report nor do have the stomach to read that, So
It is good to have a place like this where they can find the information and defend MJ when needed from the
media lies.
 
First of all, thank you for taking the time to lay all of this out for me.

List of Medications prescribed over a 6 month period and found in MJs home

Lorazepam. prescribed April 28, 2009 - 30 pills.
June 25, 2009- two months later- still 9 pills remaining.
Michael took them as prescribed or LESS

Diazepam. prescribed June 20, 2009 60 pills
June 25, 2009 there were 57 remaining.
That means he only took three within the span of 5-6 days.

Temazepam. prescribed December 2008 30 Pills
June 25, 2009 3 pills left. _MJ stopped taking them they
They did not show up in the toxicology report.

Trazodone. prescribed April of 2009. 60 pills
June 25 38 pills left. seems he had stopped taking them.
Did NOT show up in the toxicology report

Clonazepam. prescribed April 30 pills
June 25 there 8 pills left MJ toook less then prescribed or stopped taking them
This was not found in his toxicology report either.

Tizanidine. issued on June 7, 2009 ten pills
June 25, 2009 there were 8 left. in the span of more than two weeks MJ two of these pills.
The Drugs that were found in MJs system from toxology report
were all adminsitered June 25th by Dr Murray to help MJ to SLEEP.

Lorazepam
Diazepam
tizanidine
Propofol Knocks you out COLD
Lidocaine numbs injection sight

These medications - I believe Elusive Moonwalker mentioned some of these in his/her post earlier - but are they mainly anxiety medications? What are their purposes? They all sound the same...


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About supposed Family Drug interventions

Jackson's Former Publicist Dismisses Family Intervention Reports

Michael Jackson's former publicist RAYMONE BAIN has broken her silence to dismiss reports Janet Jackson and her siblings were planning an intervention to urge the King of Pop to seek help for his drug use.New rumours suggest the family initiative to help her troubled brother in 2007 and again earlier this year (09) - but their efforts failed because the pop superstar refused to see them, and locked them out of his home.

But Bain, who has been Jackson's personal publicist for many years, insists the story is "not true". She also refutes claims that her former boss stopped taking calls from his mother when she grew increasingly concerned about his drug use. Bain tells U.S. news show Access Hollywood, "I don't know of a time when Michael Jackson did not have access to his mother under my watch." And the publicist insists the King of Pop was "healthy" and "not abusing drugs" during the years she was his mouthpiece.


She says, "I'm not gonna hear it."
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Wow...I've always heard negative things about Raymone Bain, so this was very refreshing to see. What's her story with Michael? Do you know when she was hired & what years she spent with Michael? All I've heard about her is that she sued Michael for something & I'm not even sure if that's true. Anyway, it's good to see her coming to his defense.


The Jackson's themselves stated in a letter

"We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these 'sources' and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate, and untrue claims for monetary reasons. It is time for these unfair and hurtful rumors, for profit, to end."

The letter undersigned by Katherine Jackson, Tito, Jackie, Marlon and Jermaine says that reports about Michael's fight against his addiction to pills and booze are unfounded.

Members of the Jackson family are coming to Michael's defense, saying media reports about his alleged dependency on painkillers and alcohol are not true. In an open letter, Jackson's mother, sisters and brothers say news organizations "have quoted 'sources' indicating that our family has attempted a drug intervention and engaged in an effort to take over his business affairs, because of this alleged drug and alcohol usage.

We categorically deny ever planning, participating in or having knowledge of any kind of intervention whatsoever." The family members add that they and Michael have experienced years of false accusations and misrepresentations. ... http://www.mtv.com/news

WOAAAHH! I've never seen that statement before! Was this issued after Janet talked about the interventions on Robin's show? If it was, then that means that the Jackson family openly admitted that she lied...wow. Why would she do that?
:blink: But then earlier this year, Rebbie continued to talk about the addiction & intervention stories on other talk shows.. They contradict themselves...by issuing this statement & then continuing to say he had a problem with drugs.. Why are they blaming other "sources" if these false rumors & accusations are originating from their own mouths? :wacko:
 
I understand that we shouldnt have to prove that MJ was not a drug abuser at the time of his death
but we need to be able to reply when we see false info being reported so the general public is not decieved.
Not every one has access to or can understand the autopsy report nor do have the stomach to read that, So
It is good to have a place like this where they can find the information and defend MJ when needed from the
media lies.

Yes, I think this thread could be very useful and I suggest it be made sticky so that it can be readily referenced. I read the autopsy report (as much as I could) along with following the autopsy thread but this thread explains the facts concisely. It is so sad, not to mention frustrating, to see how people (certain members of my family, for instance) wrongly think MJ was a "drug addict" and that's what killed him. This thread could also be useful for when we want to write in to HLN to complain about their misinformation. I think we should all be writing in and let Dr. Drew, another incompetent medical "professional" have it (although I admit I have yet to do so because it might be a waste of time).
 
Presley was led by oprah to say drugs may have been the reason why he collapsed in n.y oprah pushed that.lisa hadnt seen mj for weeks before.and the dr who treated mj in the hospital stated at the time and after june 09 there were no drugs involved.presley was been led by orka.nothing moreas orka was the one asking that question and lisa has no credibility considering she lied for years about her continued relationship with mj after the divorce.she sat in interviews saying how she got away from mj as quick as poss while forgetting she had spents the previous x amount of years after the divorce travelling around the workd with him going out in L.A etc

Tmz said 51.demoral shots.lets say thats true.the number of shots is irrelevent.if im having 51 botox shots then u are gonna need painkiller treatment to go along with it also look at the amounts give.some talk as if mj was going for demoral shots and nothing else.he was having loads of cosmetic procedures done.ask patrick treachy who treated mj in ireland. He said mj didnt even like to have any painkillers at all and would rather suffer.secondally there were no painkillers found in mj or in his house.easier to take tablets then have injections as a needle phobic. u can also look at the amount of times mj went to kilens. random dates and days sometimes he wouldnt go for a couple of weeks then u would see him there a couple of times in a week and he took his kids with him on several occasions aswell. certainly doest show evidence of anything.

there is not one single peice of evidence that mj had issues pre 93 something he openly admitted and got treatment for( painkillers)The family would have more credibility if they had seen him more than once in the last five years.if randy hadnt been selling friedman stories calling his bro a druggie as payback for the lawsuits in and around 06. And they hadnt spent the last two years harrassing him to take part in a reunion show.Then u look at the things ppl say who were actually around him.hiltons staff cascios bain etc.spot the contridiction. Just like sneddon claimed invisible victims some like to claim invisible drugs those muscle relaxers were prescribed for his sleep issues.metzger mentioned that.they help u relax help with stress etc
 
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The Drugs that were found in MJs system from toxology report
were all adminsitered June 25th by Dr Murray to help MJ to SLEEP.

Lorazepam
Diazepam
tizanidine
Propofol Knocks you out COLD
Lidocaine numbs injection sight

What caught my attention was that Michael admitted having an addiction to Demerol around the end of Dangerous tour. It was said at the time that the addiction started after the burns caused when he was filming the Pepsi commercial. In that interview with Dr. Drew on CNN his friend said he started having an addiction in 1998, when he suffered an accident, hurting his back and breaking his femur, not when he was burnt in the Pespsi commercial. It's true he had a chronic pain in the back and Demerol is used for intense pain. Now I wonder, was Michael making use of Demerol/Lorazepam regularly since 1998, despite of the autopsy report not showing any damage caused by drug abuse in his organs? It does not make much sense, but at the same time, we wonder if he was using it, since not unusual for him to be in pain because of his back and coincidentally, Demerol was one of the drugs Murray had injected him on the day he died.
 
What caught my attention was that Michael admitted having an addiction to Demerol around the end of Dangerous tour. It was said at the time that the addiction started after the burns caused when he was filming the Pepsi commercial. In that interview with Dr. Drew on CNN his friend said he started having an addiction in 1998, when he suffered an accident, hurting his back and breaking his femur, not when he was burnt in the Pespsi commercial. It's true he had a chronic pain in the back and Demerol is used for intense pain. Now I wonder, was Michael making use of Demerol/Lorazepam regularly since 1998, despite of the autopsy report not showing any damage caused by drug abuse in his organs? It does not make much sense, but at the same time, we wonder if he was using it, since not unusual for him to be in pain because of his back and coincidentally, Demerol was one of the drugs Murray had injected him on the day he died.

No one said he wasnt using it at all_ We are saying he want abusing it. as a drug addict would
He didnt even have a prescribed bottle of pills for it. Dr Murray was administering him demoral (I mean Lorazapam) that evening to help MJ sleep not becuase Mj was addicted to it or trying to get a recreational high. But Dr Murray mixed too many drugs in Mjs system that night in a short period of time and topped it off with propoful .. :(


EDIT correction
it was not demoral Murray injected it was Lorazepam

There was no demoral found in Mjs sysytem or in his home

The Lorazapam he did take was as directed or Less and
not abused as shown below.

Lorazepam. prescribed April 28, 2009 - 30 pills.
June 25, 2009- two months later- still 9 pills remaining.
Michael took them as prescribed or LESS
 
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^MJ was not injected Demoral on the day he died!

Also Lisa Marie wasn't led to say anything to Oprah that she didn't want to say already. She lies in the interview about the reason why she divorced him. Stating the reason was drugs! Then says after she didn't know he was an addict until after the divorce. lol Even though she was already with him during his rehab stay so she been knew he had a issue at one point before they even married and way before they divorced!

And she says that during his collapse she didn't believe what the doctors were telling her, so she clearly wasn't led by no one to say or sugest he was abusing drugs and that's why he had collapsed!

Why would she need O to lead her do what she came to do on her own in the fist place? Which was to accuse MJ of being a drug user and paint herself as poor lil lisa who was caught in the middle! All O did was help Lisa get her face on TV to say her lil B.S lies and help O get her ratings coo while still hatin on MJ!
 
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^MJ was not injected Demoral on the day he died!

Also Lisa Marie wasn't led to say anything to Oprah that she didn't want to say already. She lies in the interview about the reason why she divorced him. Stating the reason was drugs! Then says after she didn't know he was an addict until after the divorce. lol Even though she was already with him during his rehab stay so she been knew he had a issue at one point before they even married and way before they divorced!

And she says that during his collapse she didn't believe what the doctors were telling her, so she clearly wasn't led by no one to say or sugest he was abusing drugs and that's why he had collapsed!

Why would she need O to lead her do what she came to do on her own in the fist place? Which was to accuse MJ of being a drug user and paint herself as poor lil lisa who was caught in the middle! All O did was help Lisa get her face on TV to say her lil B.S lies and help O get her ratings coo while still hatin on MJ!

Thank you I corrected that. It was not demoral

We need facts not suppositions of what LMP knew or didnt know.
about MJs PAST use of drugs. Im not denying he abused in the past
on an off. But evidense shows us he wasnt abusing the last decade of his life.
 
Right, I'm just simply stating that since Lisa clearly lies in the interview I wouldn't give her any credit or use her as a source of MJ past addiction (93) period.
 
Per autopsy toxicology report: Found in MJ's blood, Propofol, lorazepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diazepam and nordiazepam (which is metabolized diazepam).

Found in MJ's urine: Propofol, lorazepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diazepam and nordiazepam, ehedrine.

Found in MJ's vitreous humor (eyes): Propofol.

Found in MJ's liver: Propofol, lidocaine.

Found in MJ's stomach: Propofol, lidocaine.

A syringe containing Flumazenil used to reverse effects of benzodiapenes was found in the room.

Additional drugs found in the room but not in MJ's system are
Amoxicillin-Antibiotic
Prednisone-Used to treat Lupus

Lorazapam is also called Ativan and is used to treat panic attacks and sleep disorders.

Diazapam's other name is Valium and is a muscle relaxant used also to treat panic attacks and anxiety.

Midazolim is Versed which is a seditive used together with Propofol in hospital's to put patients to sleep.
 
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