MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF lost the Appeal

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Any updates on the June 14th hearing?
Still can't believe all of this..
The Estate is fighting IN ORDER to keep MJ's legacy safe IN ORDER to give MJ's kids a safe future.
Yet their grandparents are trying to get their hands in it to have their part of the money by charming the kids and getting them under contract telling them it's their fathers wish...

They make Macaulay Culkin's parents look good. :(
 
Any updates on the June 14th hearing?
Still can't believe all of this..
The Estate is fighting IN ORDER to keep MJ's legacy safe IN ORDER to give MJ's kids a safe future.
Yet their grandparents are trying to get their hands in it to have their part of the money by charming the kids and getting them under contract telling them it's their fathers wish...

They make Macaulay Culkin's parents look good. :(
You nailed it. They are really trying to hijack and paralyze the estate for their own benefit. There is no concern for what is in the best interest of the kids. They should realize (Joe & Katherine) that they have led full and fortunate lives. They don't need more especially at the expense of the kids.
 
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You nailed it. They are really trying to hijack and paralyze the estate for their own benefit. There is no concern for what is in the best interest of the kids. They should realize (Joe & Katherine) that they have led full and fortunate lives. They don't need more especially at the expense of the kids.
I agree with you. :yes:
 
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personally i dont agree... sorry i see it different and not that bad as some of you. joe maybe katherine not
 
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Two weaks since the hearing. When will the judge makes a descision.
 
Victory22;3412159 said:
I think Katherine is the ring leader. She hides behind Joseph’s bad reputation and plays innocent but she is orchestrating much of the battle against her son’s estate I think.

I totally agree with you!

In my opinion, Katherine Jackson BLEW HER COVER when she signed Michael's 3 chldren to that "lifetime" contract with Howard Mann.
 
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I totally agree with you!

In my opinion, Katherine Jackson BLEW HER COVER when she signed Michael's 3 chldren to that "lifetime" contract with Howard Mann.

Yep, her doing that is the thing that told me she can be just as shady as Joe.
 
Victory22;3412159 said:
I think Katherine is the ring leader. She hides behind Joseph’s bad reputation and plays innocent but she is orchestrating much of the battle against her son’s estate I think.

:bow:
 
ivy;3280997 said:
The amount and the content of the information is so important that I'll open a separate thread for this for the time being and later merge it with our already existing thread.

MJ Estate recently filed a supplement to their complaint listing all the things that Melissa Johnson did in the last few months - including MJ's kids GMA appearance.

Below is a summary of the additional complaint I did after looking over the documents

Note: in the below notes "MJ 91 HTWF" represents the actual Heal the World Foundation MJ formed in 1991.


Let’s see what Melisa Johnson did after the injunction against her to stop using Michael’s name and likeliness until the court case is resolved.

June 2010, she give a interview to local ABC channel saying that HTWF is the same as MJ 91 HTWF and that they act with MJ’s authorization and the estate is vicious and hostile. They post this interview video in youtube and their website. They later remove the videos after a phone call from Estate lawyers.

June , July 2010 she posts 2 videos “Hijacking The Estate” documentary which has unsupported claims of a cover up and conspiracy by the estate executors.

Johnson get in contact with people who are openly against the estate and executors (with false attacks) and through this people they get Joe and Katherine to “board of directors” and “elect” MJ’s kids to “Youth board of advisors”. (Estate learns this in December 2010)

Katherine and Joe was never a board of director at MJ 91 HTWF. MJ 91 HTWF rules says that in the case of MJ’s death his representatives get in charge – which means Branca and McClain.

September 2010, Johnson holds a board of director meeting to “reorganize and elect board of directors for MJ 91 HTWF according to MJ’s wishes in 2005” (see below for MJ’s supposed 2005 wishes)

In SEPTEMBER 2010, Brian Oxman sends a letter to Melissa Johnson saying that “This letter will confirm that in February, 2005, Mr. Michael Jackson instructed me to inform you that he approved of your proposals regarding Heal the World Foundation and requested that you act on behalf of the Foundation to preserve and protect it and its trademarks. Mr. Jackson instructed me to inform you to keep the Foundation active, work on behalf of the Foundation to promote its purposes and goals, run the Foundation’s operations, and revive its corporate status”

Estate tries to call Oxman for a deposition but he doesn’t show or arrange a meeting time. Currently estate is seeking a court order for deposition of Oxman or removal of his testimony from the trial.

Estate also claims that Oxman wasn’t MJ’s lawyer (he is the lawyer of Joe that’s against the estate), argues that letter is self-serving, it’s best hearsay and they didn’t authorize Oxman to speak on their behalf. Plus they say that letter is legally insufficient to give any rights to Melissa Johnson.

In this September 2010 meeting Melissa claims she’s authorized by MJ, she’s working as interim director and decide to revive the MJ 91 HTWF and shorten the name from “heal the world foundation” to “HTWF”. (Note : Johnson was never a part of MJ 91 HTWF)

Next day they file “Certificate of Amendment of Articles of Incorporation” with California Secretary of State to change the name to HTWF.

Still in September 2010, Johnson contact IRS (Internal Revenue Service) and falsely representing that she’s a representative of MJ 91 HTWF asks for MJ 91 HTWF tax records.

In Fall 2010, Johnson again falsely representing her relationship files with Franchise Tax Board that they want to revive MJ 91 HTWF which is suspended.

On November 1, 2010 Mann enters into a license agreement with Melissa Johnson HTWF because he plans to use the MJ trademarks (heal the world, gone to soon, king of pop, Michael Jackson etc) she owns in the sale of some products.

Mann agrees to pay Melisa Johnson’s debt of $92,578 plus $38,000 of legal fees to a total of $130,642.

Melissa Johnson in her deposition says that Joe and Katherine’s manager Lowell Henry is the one got them hooked up with Howard Mann after July 2010.

November 2010, Johnson has another board of directors meeting in which they agree to merge MJ 91 HTWF with their 2008 HTWF.

December 2010, Mann holds “Unveiling of the Jackson Secret Vault Lithographic event” and Johnson who is a partner of Mann gets a part of the sales.

December 2010 Franchise Tax Board which is fooled by Melissa Johnson’s misrepresentation as MJ’s representative revives MJ 91 HTWF.

With this Johnson files plan of merger (merging 91 HTWF with 2008 HTWF) with Secretary of State.

As a result of this all the current public information falsely shows that MJ 91 HTWF is revived and surviving (2008 HTWF is merged into it) and that Melissa Johnson is an officer and director of MJ 91 HTWF.

Estate claims that this is intentional fraudulent activity to fool general public and support their claims in the lawsuit (deception of government agencies as well) that their 2008 HTWF is a part of MJ 91 HTWF.

Estate learns about this fraudulent unlawful scheme in January 2011.
January 2011 Johnson speaks to X17online saying that her charity is supported by Jacksons.

February 2011 Johnson and Mann appears on GMA gives a check to charity from HTWF. Estate says with the help of Mann she enlisted the help of Katherine and MJ’s kids in her effort to deceive public.

All of the above still continues to confuse the public even more so recently that the charity is related to MJ.

MJ Estate is now also asking for the correction of the false public records (California Secreatry of State, California Franchise Tax Board, California Attorney General’s Office and International Revenue Service).

Note: Estate tried to come to a settlement with her but they couldn’t succeed.

Ps: Melissa Johnson says that her communication with MJ about the charity was done through Oxman at 2004-2005 and Van Alexander (part of Bain Associates) through 2006 -2009.

She says Oxman authorized her to
- Do whatever to preserve HTWF
- Use MJ’s name and picture on the HTWF websites
- Sell MJ related merchandise
- Acquire charitable intellectual property

She says Van Alexander said her that
- MJ never planned to be involved in day to day actions of the charity
- There’s a turmoil in Jackson camp and it wouldn’t be best for the charity to be in MJ’s name. She’s told to do whatever she can do on her own.
- MJ would endorse the charity even though it was in her name.


is there any links for the actual legal documents about that ??? i would like to have a copy from them :)
 
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Now, a month since the hearing on June is passed away. Do you think the court has not made a decision about the settlement or may it be that we are not informed about the court decision?
 
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Yes. I wonder what is going on with that case too. There are a few cases that we are all waiting on.
 
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Yes the court has made a decision and I have been holding on it because I (and the people knowledgeable in the legal aspects) aren't able to say a certain result about it.

I'll let you know what we know and let you form your own conclusions. The order and everything else releated to the motion to enforce is sealed - meaning that we have no access to the documents and cannot read them. However Pacer system shows us the name of the documents that are filed - this is the only information that we have.

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Date terminated means that the case is closed. It's the same day that the judge made a decision.

There's an order on the motion to enforce and there's also a permanent injunction.

The rest is just an interpretation - so please do not take it as fact or correct

- As the case is closed and it's not going to trial, we think that HTWF wasn't successful in totally rejecting and rescinding the settlement.
- The outcome cannot be told for certain from what we can see, it could be the settlement enforced, it could be a modified settlement is enforced, a new settlement or previous temporary injunction has been made permanent. All are the possibilities.
- Permanent injunction might also mean that the judge had the purpose of compelling a party to perform in a certain way.

Over time we might have a better understanding of what's happening.
 
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Ivy, if the result had been in favor of the HTWF don't you think we would know it? I am guessing they would be dropping all sorts of hints of their victory over the big bad estate. Here is hoping team Michael had a slam dunk!!
 
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^Yup, I believe so too, and hope that's the case.
 
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Ivy, thanks for the info. I also hope the ruling was in the Estate's favor
 
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Ivy, if the result had been in favor of the HTWF don't you think we would know it? I am guessing they would be dropping all sorts of hints of their victory over the big bad estate. Here is hoping team Michael had a slam dunk!!

Absolutely. There's one supporter of HTWF on twitter and the other day when I mentioned the permanent injunction and said the case was over she lost it and started to curse and threaten me. She also asks people if they can live with themselves because of what they did to HTWF.

So sure it looks like a win for the Estate.

It's just we can't see and say if the settlement was fully enforced or partially or it was modified etc.
 
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Hopefully this is a win for the Estate in this case.
 
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Looks like a win then lol.we know how it works with htwf.any victory gets shouted from the roof top
 
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Good riddance. Hope we never hear about Melissa Johnson again.
 
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Absolutely. There's one supporter of HTWF on twitter and the other day when I mentioned the permanent injunction and said the case was over she lost it and started to curse and threaten me. She also asks people if they can live with themselves because of what they did to HTWF.

So sure it looks like a win for the Estate.

It's just we can't see and say if the settlement was fully enforced or partially or it was modified etc.
That reaction certainly sounds like it was a win for the estate.
 
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I am going to be positive and say a win, based on the wording. Now September is coming up and we have a lot of things on our minds, so one less nonsense is good. Thanks Ivy.
 
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I am glad if it is a win for the estate.
 
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It seems good on the estate's part
 
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So its a win for the estate? hope so
 
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Thanks for the update ivy.

Like other's before me, I too, until I hear otherwise, will take this as a "win" for The Estate Of Michael Jackson.

Since Mann, Johnson, and Company have not said a word, thus far, I'm going to take that as a sign of defeat. No sense calling Harvey Levin, if you don't have anything positive to report. LOL!

The last time they were all in court, they couldn't wait to start yapping, trying to make it seem as if they won something. Even to the point of getting "some" in the fan community upset as to Johnson and Mann being the somewhat winners. Until the facts finally presented themselves.

Oh and let's not leave out Mr. Nimmer. LOL! Remember how quick he was to add his 2-cent. I'm guessing that Mr. Nimmer has nothing positive to report this time around and there will be no new Larry Nimmer YouTube video update.
 
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