MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF lost the Appeal

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

some fans i've talked to claim she and the children hasn't got a dime by the estate. i can't believe that but who knows

I am pretty sure the Jacksons would already go on court if they hasn't got a dime.
The court is supervised all the things and it's all documented.
They should do so research before making these claims.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

No way they're not getting their allowance. It's probably not enough for Katherine to funnel money to the rest of the family. Still this is Michael's money and there's got to be an end to lousy spending practices.

BTW I wonder if GAL Margaret Lodise will ever step in to protect these kids' rights and stop their exploitation by Mann.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Today the trial starts. Is there a timeline-information? Will we have any information today about what happens?

I will pray the Estate must win the case.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I guess $9 mill isnt enough so the jacksons claim they havnt been given anything i guess its not enough to pay for the rest of the dead beats
 
superb post by United4MJLegacy

Healing the world…one trademark at a time

Today, April 19th 2o11, begins the trial pitting the Michael Jackson’s Estate against the non-Michael Jackson related Heal the World Foundation (referred to as Non-MJ HTW).

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By now, most fans have heard bits and pieces of the battle that has been going on for close to 2 years…but very few have had the chance to read the legal documents and testimonies painting a very disturbing picture of a delusional woman, who was told by an angel after a near-death experience, that she would partner with Michael Jackson to heal the world. Although, there is no signed document from Michael Jackson authorizing her takeover of his 1991 foundation, she is steadfast as she presses forward, in accordance with what she believes to be MJ’s wishes.

In all the information that came out since the Estate has taken legal action against Non-MJ HTW, probably the most upsetting to me, is the fact that most donations went to buy trademarks and advertisement, and very little to help sick children.

For example, Non-MJ HTW ‘s 2009 tax documents show, over $76 000 was spent on trademark fees and ads, while only $5 520 was donated to help the needy.

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Source: Non-MJ Heal The World 2009 Tax filing

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Non-MJ HTW donations in 2009 totalling a measly $5 520 Source: Non-MJ Heal The World 2009 Tax filing.


Melissa Johnson claims, she took the initiative and of her OWN accord, to buy all these trademarks to prevent “others” from acquiring and misusing these Michael Jackson related trademarks.

Hard to believe Michael Jackson would hand over his charity & trademarks to a woman, whom he had never met, to funnel public donations towards hundreds of domain names & trademarks ‘ registration.

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Source: Melissa Johnson’s Declaration filed on April 12th 2011

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Source: Melissa Johnson’s Declaration filed on April 12th 2011

Which raises the question, how was she able to acquire all these MJ trademarks, in the first place? From a legal standpoint, only Michael Jackson, and now his Estate, owns the right to use his name, likeness and his right of publicity. Melissa Johnson provided a jaw-dropping justification to explain why she, just like MJ & his Estate, can use Michael Jackson’s trademarks without consequences.

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Source: Melissa Johnson’s Declaration filed on April 12th 2011

So even though, they had NEVER spoken or met, Melissa Johnson and Michael Jackson, are one entity. Reading her testimony, I was left at times speechless and other times wary and flabbergasted; she went to great lengths to get in touch with Michael Jackson (without success) and his employees. She used an MJJ Productions’ employee’s name to send letters to MJ, and even showed up to Neverland Ranch unannounced.

So today, a trial that is expected to last about a week begins, and fans will closely watch the outcome. A win for the defense won’t be just a win for Melissa Johnson and her charity. Hiding behind the curtains, footing the bills for Non-MJ HTW’s defense is none other than Howard Mann, the thorn in the Estate’s side. He has, once again, put himself in the middle of a litigation involving the Estate.

Mann has many reasons to cheer Melissa Johnson on. In his testimony in support of Non-MJ HTW, Mann succinctly exposed his raison d’être:

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Source: Howard Mann’s declaration filed on April 12th 2011

Mann has invested thousands of dollars in Non-MJ HTW by paying their debt and legal fees, with the hope that a positive outcome for the defense will bring him a windfall.

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Source: Howard Mann’s declaration filed on April 12th 2011

As Mann stated in the quote above, in return for paying Melissa Johnson’s legal bills, and following a win for the defense, she has already agreed to let Mann use her trademarks to market the property he bought from Henry Vaccaro.

A victory for Non-MJ HTW would mean the degradation of Michael Jackson’s legacy and the dilution of his trademarks by an unscrupulous man. This could also bring a lot of confusion; with fans trying to distinguish the Estate sanctioned products to support from Mann’s & Johnsons’ money grab ventures. Therefore, such an outcome would be devastating to Michael Jackson’s legacy, his Estate, beneficiaries and his fans.

If the Opis None debacle has taught us anything, it is not to underestimate how low Mann will go to satisfy his greed. He has shown us time and again, from the Opis None controversy to the “*****” reference in his press release to his recent claim that Michael Jackson did not invent the “lean’; that he doesn’t respect Michael Jackson as an artist, nor care for his legacy; and at his mercy, MJ’s assets will deplete very rapidly.
His callous disregard for Michael Jackson’s legacy is a threat to his children’ long-term financial well-being.

As we, fans hope for a positive outcome for the Estate, know that it is only ONE battle…with many more to come. But one battle, one victory at a time, we stay hopeful that the Michael Jackson Estate will continue to grow and preserve his legacy from individuals like Howard Mann, Melissa Johnson and Henry Vaccaro, for the benefits of his beloved children.

Side Note: A reminder to all fans, Let’s not support counterfeited products….because no matter what Mann says, most of the money will not go to Michael Jackson’s beneficiaries & Charities. The probate judge has named a guardian ad litem to oversee the children’ interest in their father’s Estate, so we know someone is looking for the children’ financial interest when it comes to the Estate. What about Mann?

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the writer who has no ties, no contact, no connection to the Michael Jackson Estate…and DEFINITELY no connection to Howard Mann, Melissa Johnson and Henry Vaccaro.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I look forward to any updates we, HOPEFULLY, will be receiving today.

I would like to know how Melissa Johnson would have been able to obtain MJ related trademarks, did she lie to the authorities and say, somehow, that she received permission from Michael Jackson?

Also, even if she has said trademarks, wouldn't she need the Estate's permission to use them?

I was just thinking, for example, if I were able to obtain a "Marilyn Monroe" trademark, does that mean I can, AUTOMATICALLY, start selling Marilyn Monroe t-shirts & headbands, without her Estate's permission?

I am reminded of Howard Weitzman once saying that although Mann had some Jackson related recordings, he would not be able to use them for monetary gain, he could ONLY listen to them in the privacy of his home, etc.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I look forward to any updates we, HOPEFULLY, will be receiving today.

probably it won't be that quick unless the media reports from the courtroom. the trial is expected to take 4 days and judge can take time to make a decision. So outcome of the trial would require some time in my opinion.


I would like to know how Melissa Johnson would have been able to obtain MJ related trademarks, did she lie to the authorities and say, somehow, that she received permission from Michael Jackson?

To answer your question the steps is
- You fill out a trademark application
- Trademark office examines the application if it's complete it's forwarded to a trademark attorney
--- they can reject it explaining why, you can respond to them explaining why it should be accepted
--- they can accept it and publish it for public opposition, then those are handled
- if it passes all above steps the mark is issued

I believe trademark office has rejected some of her trademarks as because they were too close to "Michael Jackson"

and "Michael Jackson" could be legitimately trademarked in some instances as well. For example if a guy lives in Wisconsin and is named Michael Jackson and have a car repair garage he could most probably do a related limited trademark registration for "Michael Jackson's Garage" and be okay as it's referring to himself and his business and not "Michael Jackson" the artist and as he's not using MJ's name, image and likeliness to make profit.

Also, even if she has said trademarks, wouldn't she need the Estate's permission to use them?

I was just thinking, for example, if I were able to obtain a "Marilyn Monroe" trademark, does that mean I can, AUTOMATICALLY, start selling Marilyn Monroe t-shirts & headbands, without her Estate's permission?

what you are talking about is the publicity rights , image and likeliness etc. yes those are controlled by the Estate. and yes you would need a permission , authorization to use them such as a licence.

As you know she claims Michael gave her authorization for anything and everything and she doesn't need a licence because she and Michael is the same entity :p

I am reminded of Howard Weitzman once saying that although Mann had some Jackson related recordings, he would not be able to use them for monetary gain, he could ONLY listen to them in the privacy of his home, etc.

What Weitzman was referring to copyrights. Such items (songs, pictures and videos etc) are copyrighted and you need the copyright owners permission to release them and to sell them.

Think about any mp3 you might have on your ipod etc, yes you can listen to them as much as you want but you can't package and sell them. It's because you own the mp3 (as you bought it) but you don't own the song (as you didn't create them, the artist is the one that still owns the songs). so having a "physical copy" and having "intellectual rights" are two different things.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Ivy, greatly appreciate your breaking the legalese down.

Even with money at stake, it's still unbelievable that any Jackson is okay with partnering with a woman who believes she is the same as Michael Jackson, even in a representational sense in the way she sees herself. This woman is delusional. The Jacksons would never partner with "Billie Jean". That they're putting all common sense aside for Johnson is asking for trouble. For everybody's welfare, they need to distance themselves from Johnson. Hope the court sees it, if they can't.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Thank you Ivy, for posting that excellent analysis of the situation. It's abundantly clear what is going on, and I'm sure any judge or jury would have the same understanding, that this is a total scam.

Given Melissa Johnson's statements, about how the money is really being spent, I would think that those who donated to this "charity" would have grounds to band together for a class-action lawsuit for the return of their donations, and probably also for damages (emotional distress), as well. In the aftermath of Michael's death, many were looking for ways to honor his legacy, and unfortunately, at least some donated to the non-HTW, thinking they were following Michael's wishes. We now have documentation that they were duped. Once that has been proven in court, I do think reparations may be possible for those who donated.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

^^^^ Agree that the fans should sue Johnsons ass for fooling them into thinking that was Michaels charity.. and then now also to find out their money were spent on advertising fees?!!

I pray the Estate will win. Im no legal expert lol but from what I have read and seen, the Estate cant lose this one. IF the Estate loses, then anyone can come forward and say "Me and MJ are the same person and despite there are NO agreement I know what he wants so Im gonna do my business and dont need permisson from the estate".

I hope the judge sees her through

What time will it start? Its 10am in Los Angeles now, right?
 
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Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

19 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

The Michael Jackson Estate has settled its lawsuit against the Heal the World Foundation, and the Estate is now copacetic with the charity using Michael Jackson's name.

Katherine Jackson's new lawyer, Perry Sanders, and Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman.

The attorneys settled the beef, so Heal the World can now use Michael's name and likeness, and Katherine will sit on the Board of Directors of the charity.

The lawyers are going to court this AM to dismiss the lawsuit.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

WTH is going on...i hope it's a bogus report..this can't be true..it just can't....
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I really hope so. I dont see why they would suddenly settle when they have every chance of winning, and considering the damage it could cause. That would make no sense.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

19 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

The Michael Jackson Estate has settled its lawsuit against the Heal the World Foundation, and the Estate is now copacetic with the charity using Michael Jackson's name.

Katherine Jackson's new lawyer, Perry Sanders, and Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman.

The attorneys settled the beef, so Heal the World can now use Michael's name and likeness, and Katherine will sit on the Board of Directors of the charity.

The lawyers are going to court this AM to dismiss the lawsuit.

WHAT!

You mean to tell me that they went through ALL OF THAT TROUBLE, only to give in to those crooks on the day the trial was supposed to start!

What about all of the other issues involved with this lawsuit and why wasn't the fake HTWF attorney involved with this "SECRET" meeting?
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

19 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

The Michael Jackson Estate has settled its lawsuit against the Heal the World Foundation, and the Estate is now copacetic with the charity using Michael Jackson's name.

Katherine Jackson's new lawyer, Perry Sanders, and Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman.

The attorneys settled the beef, so Heal the World can now use Michael's name and likeness, and Katherine will sit on the Board of Directors of the charity.

The lawyers are going to court this AM to dismiss the lawsuit.

F that...Melissa Johnson the weirdo should NOT be allowed to use Michael's name and Likeness.. :no:

Shame on you Katherine for dealing with her..
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

what the hell, no!
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

thank you for the breakdown Ivy. Melissa Johnson...hmmm...she was told by a angel in a dream to do this charity. thats crack pot right there. She insists that she spoke to Michael about this charity and that he asked her to continue on...:lmao:....SHE STALKED Michael...she NEVER met him..or spoke to him personally. Johnson is crazy and Mann is disgusting. I hope the judge sees right through the BS...if he doesn't then..he must be part of this FAKE charity to. I donated to this charity like many others...thinking I was doing Michael's wishes...after he passed it made me feel like I was doing something to contribute..when I DIDN"T know what to do...I felt helpless back in June 2009 and donating made me feel useful...then I find out that Johnson STOLE that donation for her own means...and that stripped me of the good that I thought that I was doing in Mchael's memory...Johnson needs to be put in jail for making people feel that way....and I hope someday she will realize the pain that he has caused many people with her dishonesty.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

19 minutes ago by tmz staff

the michael jackson estate has settled its lawsuit against the heal the world foundation, and the estate is now copacetic with the charity using michael jackson's name.

Katherine jackson's new lawyer, perry sanders, and estate lawyer howard weitzman.

The attorneys settled the beef, so heal the world can now use michael's name and likeness, and katherine will sit on the board of directors of the charity.

The lawyers are going to court this am to dismiss the lawsuit.

no. No. And no.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

from twitter/....
TeamMichael777 TeamMichael? by PrettyPrivleged



JUST LEFT FEDERAL COURT. BRANCA VS HTWF. BRANCA SETTLED! WITH HTWF THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A TRIAL! #SLAMDUNK WHAT SAY YOU BRANCA FANS?
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

wtf:angry: is this true?
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

WHAT!

You mean to tell me that they went through ALL OF THAT TROUBLE, only to give in to those crooks on the day the trial was supposed to start!

Probably because Katherine is backing these crooks and they don't want to appear to be going against Katherine..
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

19 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

The Michael Jackson Estate has settled its lawsuit against the Heal the World Foundation, and the Estate is now copacetic with the charity using Michael Jackson's name.

Katherine Jackson's new lawyer, Perry Sanders, and Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman.

The attorneys settled the beef, so Heal the World can now use Michael's name and likeness, and Katherine will sit on the Board of Directors of the charity.

The lawyers are going to court this AM to dismiss the lawsuit.

WTF. if it's true, then thanks for Katherine Jackson, cause it's clear the estate didn't want to get ugly with Katherine Jackson. If Michael Jackson's mother wanted to support this delusional woman to represent his son's charity, I don't think the estate really cared as long as it didn't make them earn less money. Once again, only Michael Jackson and his fans(who cared about him) got hurt during this whole madness.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

WHAT DA **** IS GOING ON, seriously????

Im so dissapointed now
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

what the hell is going on??? I can't believe it!
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

JUST LEFT FEDERAL COURT. BRANCA VS HTWF. BRANCA SETTLED! WITH HTWF THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A TRIAL! #SLAMDUNK WHAT SAY YOU BRANCA FANS?

I'M DONE!

How the heck can The Estate of Michael Jackson settle so easily after fighting these CROOKS for 2 or so years?

Those greedy people will now be able to use Michael's likeness and WHATEVER else! Unbelievable!
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I am absolutely disgusted with Katherine Jackson letting her sons name and memory be used by skanks, What the hell kind of mother is she joining in with the crooks that Michael got rid of once.....I feel physically sick.
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I want the details now as well..

the Estate MUST have put on some restrictions... wtffffffffff
 
Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Wait and see
 
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