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MJs best album

Which MJ album is the best? Vote for your favourites!

  • Off the Wall

    Votes: 4 9.3%

  • Thriller

    Votes: 9 20.9%

  • Bad

    Votes: 16 37.2%

  • Dangerous

    Votes: 13 30.2%

  • HIStory

    Votes: 19 44.2%

  • Blood on the Dance Floor

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • Invincible

    Votes: 6 14.0%
  • Total voters
    43

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MJ's best album celebrates 30th anniversary and nothing happens. :(
 
What did you want them to do, remix it? Oh, wait...
 
I wish I could say Bad. MJ wrote almost every track all by himself. But half the album is just whack.

"Speed Demon", "Liberian Girl", "I Just Can't Stop Loving You", "Another Part of Me", and especially "Just Good Friends" ... these songs sucked lol.

The other half—"Bad", "The Way You Make Me Feel", "Dirty Diana", "Smooth Criminal", and "Man in the Mirror"—is solid. It's a shame that "Leave Me Alone" didn't make the cut and was only a bonus track on the CD version. When a literal bonus track is better than half of the main cuts, you know you got a problem.

I believe MJ was too young and green at the time to write and produce a good album all by himself. If he kept writing for himself, he might have succeeded at some point, but after Bad, he was mostly just hopping from producer to producer.

He was clearly being carried by Q and Rod Temperton on Off the Wall and Thriller, but those are his best albums. I would call Thriller his best because imho, only one of the nine tracks was whack ("The Girl is Mine") whereas two of Off the Wall's ten were whack ("Girlfriend" and "It's the Falling in Love"). 8/9 equals 90%. 8/10 equals 80%.
 
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Invincible, Off The Wall and Thriller are his worst albums. Because most of song are not even HIS. He wrote 45% of song on Thriller, 30% on Off The Wall and only 25% on Invincible.

Bad, Dangerous and History are his best albums! Because he wrote 80% on Bad, 60% on Dangerous and almost 70% on History

If we want to rank MJ music, we have to rank his REAL music. Not his karaoke
 
Stain Finkins said:
Invincible, Off The Wall and Thriller are his worst albums. Because most of song are not even HIS.
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You could say the same thing about Dangerous and History. You realize most of the songs on those albums had multiple writers, right?

He was young on Off the Wall and Thriller (early 20s), so having help was fine. At least he was honest when he didn't write or produce a song back then, too.

Taking songwriting and production credits on songs you had no hand in when you're in your 30s or 40s? So much for the "King of Pop".
 
Spaceship said:
You could say the same thing about Dangerous and History. You realize most of the songs on those albums had multiple writers, right?

He was young on Off the Wall and Thriller (early 20s), so having help was fine. At least he was honest when he didn't write or produce a song back then, too.

Taking songwriting and production credits on songs you had no hand in when you're in your 30s or 40s? So much for the "King of Pop".
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On Thriller he got credited on 4 songs, because that's his real contribution for this album

On History he contributed about 9 songs! Or even more! I don't care if Michael credited as writer or co-writer, if he really was creating at least 50% of song - that's enough for me to mark this song as HIS!

He could co-wrote more songs on Thriller as well, but he didn't for some reasons, that's why for me this album is not really MJ album.

It was just an attempt to become a real songwriter, still MJ wasn't one untill Bad!

I don't care how popular it was. If you just sing somebody else's song, that doesn't mean that this song become yours!

It was okay to have 1 or 2 songs, who wrote somebody else, on album. Like MITM, GTS, YANA, HN. But these songs had to be exception!

Michael's real problem, that he never really understood that

So Bad, Dangerous and History are peak of MJ. His best work.

Thriller, OTW and Invincible are just EP, like BOTDF.
 
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Tbh, this thread makes no sense because you - first of all - need to make clear how to define "best album". There are so many factors, one of them is personal opinion, so how will there ever be a result. And again there are some people who have a really unpleasant way of articulating themselves - just my two cents.

Richard76 said:
btw, nobody voted for BOTDF 😅
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Just did that, because I DO love that album :p
 
Stain Finkins said:
I don't care how popular it was. If you just sing somebody else's song, that doesn't mean that this song become yours!
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Just because you write a song doesn't make it good, and just because you don't write a song doesn't make it bad. Obviously, these things are factors, but not the end all, be all.
 
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Spaceship said:
Just because you write a song doesn't make it good, and just because you don't write a song doesn't make it bad. Obviously, these things are factors, but not the end all, be all.
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But you can't compare these songs with MJ songs, because he didn't write them!

Beat It and Billie Jean will always be better than Thriller and Human Nature. Because at least they are AUTHENTIC.

Singing other people song is a good experiment, but not for the SOLO album

Wanna sing somebody else's songs? Then release "cover songs" album. Adding songs that are not yours in your solo album is not a right thing!
 
Stain Finkins said:
But you can't compare these songs with MJ songs, because he didn't write them!

Beat It and Billie Jean will always be better than Thriller and Human Nature. Because at least they are AUTHENTIC.
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Maybe, maybe not.

If you think "Thriller" and "Human Nature" sound better than "Beat It" and "Billie Jean" do, then you'll find them better.

You could argue "Beat It" was a wannabe rock song and MJ was more accustomed to post disco funk songs like "Thriller", even though he didn't write the latter. You could also prefer "Human Nature" due to the smoother vocals.

Stain Finkins said:
Singing other people song is a good experiment, but not for the SOLO album

Wanna sing somebody else's songs? Then release "cover songs" album. Adding songs that are not yours in your solo album is not a right thing!
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It's possible to sing a song much better than the original writer could, you know. Happens all the time, actually.
 
Stain Finkins said:
But you can't compare these songs with MJ songs, because he didn't write them!

Beat It and Billie Jean will always be better than Thriller and Human Nature. Because at least they are AUTHENTIC.

Singing other people song is a good experiment, but not for the SOLO album

Wanna sing somebody else's songs? Then release "cover songs" album. Adding songs that are not yours in your solo album is not a right thing!
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Your understanding of what constitutes a good song is incredibly limited, in fact it’s naive.

You’ve landed here making sweeping generalisations without even considering individual differences and/or exceptions.

Human Nature is a masterpiece, not because Michael Jackson didn’t write it, or because Steve Porcaro didn’t sing it, but because two creative individuals came together and the synergy of both of their creative talents merged into something incredibly beautiful, creating a timeless pop classic.

If either artist had done both -write and perform- in this instance, it wouldn’t have been the masterpiece that it is, in fact it may not have even necessarily been any good at all, and in all likelihood would have fallen flat. It took Michael Jackson’s vocal performance and personality to turn the song into an otherworldly visceral piece of art.

In this sense, Michael was a unicorn because of his unique abilities to bring real weight to a song presented to him. It was actually one of the primary reasons he was signed to Motown as a kid. Listen to 12, 13 year old Michael sing other people’s songs pertaining to adult experiences he was too young to have yet was still able to emote real meaning and emotional weight to. I guess it’s called soul.

All of the songs that Michael recorded and released that were written by other writers became his songs because of his ability to transcend and bring the song to a higher place than they themselves could, and in pretty much every case, all of those writers will say that “as soon as he put his vocals on it I was completely floored by his talent.”

In essence, pretty much every song Michael Jackson released was a “Michael Jackson song”, Human Nature, Thriller, Man In The Mirror, Rock With You, et al.

And your understanding of the word Authentic in musical terms is muddled.
 
aazzaabb said:
Your understanding of what constitutes a good song is incredibly limited, in fact it’s naive.

You’ve landed here making sweeping generalisations without even considering individual differences and/or exceptions.

Human Nature is a masterpiece, not because Michael Jackson didn’t write it, or because Steve Porcaro didn’t sing it, but because two creative individuals came together and the synergy of both of their creative talents merged into something incredibly beautiful, creating a timeless pop classic.

If either artist had done both -write and perform- in this instance, it wouldn’t have been the masterpiece that it is, in fact it may not have even necessarily been any good at all, and in all likelihood would have fallen flat. It took Michael Jackson’s vocal performance and personality to turn the song into an otherworldly visceral piece of art.

In this sense, Michael was a unicorn because of his unique abilities to bring real weight to a song presented to him. It was actually one of the primary reasons he was signed to Motown as a kid. Listen to 12, 13 year old Michael sing other people’s songs pertaining to adult experiences he was too young to have yet was still able to emote real meaning and emotional weight to. I guess it’s called soul.

All of the songs that Michael recorded and released that were written by other writers became his songs because of his ability to transcend and bring the song to a higher place than they themselves could, and in pretty much every case, all of those writers will say that “as soon as he put his vocals on it I was completely floored by his talent.”

In essence, pretty much every song Michael Jackson released was a “Michael Jackson song”, Human Nature, Thriller, Man In The Mirror, Rock With You, et al.

And your understanding of the word Authentic in musical terms is muddled.
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Then all 12 stolen songs on Invincible are "masterpieces" as well, lol!

It's not important, how good you vocals on the song. If you just putted vocals over it and did not CONTRIBUTED a thing, then it's not your song!

It's a collaboration with you! Feat! But not a song for solo album! Period!
 
Stain Finkins said:
Then all 12 stolen songs on Invincible are "masterpieces" as well, lol!

It's not important, how good you vocals on the song. If you just putted vocals over it and did not CONTRIBUTED a thing, then it's not your song!

It's a collaboration with you! Feat! But not a song for solo album! Period!
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What on earth are you talking about? “12 stolen songs”?? If that is your mentality then why are you here? All of Michael’s albums feature contributions from other artists. So, going by your incredibly reductive and limited understanding of what you listen to in “your music world”, you’re a hypocrite???
 
aazzaabb said:
What on earth are you talking about? “12 stolen songs”?? If that is your mentality then why are you here? All of Michael’s albums feature contributions from other artists. So, going by your incredibly reductive and limited understanding of what you listen to in “your music world”, you’re a hypocrite???
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I listen Bad, History, Dangerous and some of Michael's songs from collaborative albums like Invincible, Thriller etc
 
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